How many MS 70 Lincoln cents to a 2008 Sealed Box of 2500??
crazyhounddog
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What do you think the odds or ratio of Mint State 70 Lincolns will come out of a sealed 2008 box of 50 rolls.... Or MS 69 for that matter?
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10-69's
Collector of Early 20th Century U.S. Coinage.
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<< <i>Ten 69's that sounds like a whopping good deal to me? I wonder if any 70's even exist at all in the universe? >>
Ten 69's is the entire population of 2008's out of 100's of bricks being combed over. Your chances of finding one 69 out of 5,000 is extraordinarily low. If you are looking at the p-mints, chances are zero.
If you are looking to make money from doing this I applaud your effort and wish you well. I do believe that it is a losing game for the 2008's unless of course you get very, very lucky.
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Hoard the keys.
That grade I think is permanently
shelved by the home team.
Spotting exists on every Lincoln cent made over the past few years, I havent found anyone able to disprove that.
I have a 2006 SF MS70RD that was 'made' by Tazmic, and I think I'm rather luck to have it. There are no spots, no black pools at all on it. THAT makes the 70 grade. Every 69 Ive looked at on the reg sets has spots.
<< <i>2500 out of 2500 if you submit to right slabbing company. Zippo, Zero, Ziltch if you submit to PCGS >>
Boy, that's about the truth of the matter. And I might add, a person would be LUCKY to get an MS 68 out of the bunch. I've tried and failed a few times. A lot of searching goes into finding an MS 70 that comes back MS 67 from PCGS.
<< <i>2500 out of 2500 if you submit to right slabbing company. Zippo, Zero, Ziltch if you submit to PCGS >>
Makes no difference whether you submit to PGCS or not as long as the box remains sealed they are ALL whatever grade you wish to claim. Remember Schrodinger's cat.
<< <i>0 -70's
10-69's >>
No, If that was the case the 69 pops would be huge.
Cameron Kiefer
You get the 69 because the grader saw that tiny spot or something that you, in your racing heart desire for the holy grail...chose to mentally block out, and not see.
ka ching
I think a ten year old child could grade an MS70RD lincoln as well as Mr. Hall.
You simply look for something thats wrong, or not supposed to be there.
<< <i>Spotting exists on every Lincoln cent made over the past few years, I havent found anyone able to disprove that.
I have a 2006 SF MS70RD that was 'made' by Tazmic, and I think I'm rather luck to have it. There are no spots, no black pools at all on it. THAT makes the 70 grade. Every 69 Ive looked at on the reg sets has spots.
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Very hard to find a nice un-spotted SF Lincoln these days, Great Coin
It could be that a very few of these coins are "pulled" before the rinse, for inspection etc...and therefor never been subjected to it.
Chance of MS69? .01%
Chance of MS68? .1%
Hope for a decent MS67.
<< <i>I think the rarity of an unspotted memorial is not yet being fully appreciated. Who's to say that those black spots may not still be chemically active and in the long term cause corrosion, or build in intensity. Some may still be latent and only show up after decades.
It could be that a very few of these coins are "pulled" before the rinse, for inspection etc...and therefor never been subjected to it. >>
All the 1968-P cents in the mint sets are spotted. The '84-D is going
now and there are a few others that are bad too.
It's not just the distressing number of tarnished and spotted coins
that is the trouble though; some of these dates are always banged
up and/ or poorly made.
Waiting another couple generations to collect them is not going to im-
prove one single coin.
<< <i>Chance of MS70? Huh? Yeah, right.
Chance of MS69? .01%
Chance of MS68? .1%
Hope for a decent MS67. >>
I have gone through half a box, and got depressed, haven't even finished the box yet.
<< <i>Ten 69's that sounds like a whopping good deal to me? I wonder if any 70's even exist at all in the universe? >>
Once upon a time, an MS70 Zincoln was located and graded. Unfortunately, after a year or so, it became apparent that it was an MS69 in disguise and not a real MS70...............
The name is LEE!
<< <i>0 -70's
10-69's >>
Looks like I found myself a new day job!
But seriously, if you go through an entire box, you're lucky if you can find a 68. As others have said, 67 seems to be the limit.
Yoo Hoo......PCGS biggies, Could you please PLEASE use what influence you must have, contact Mint Director Moy and see if this spotting problem can be resolved before the 2009 cents are in production? Could you, Mr. Hall? We know you read these posts, and now, when you have the kind of Power and Influence that may help the collecting brotherhood in a big, way, could you go to the plate for us?
Please?
Order #20176785 / Submission #3780448
Line # Item # Cert # PCGS No. CoinDate Denomination Variety Country Grade
1 1 12800184 394899 2008 1C US MS67RD
1 2 12800185 394899 2008 1C US MS68RD
1 3 12800186 394899 2008 1C US MS67RD
1 4 12800187 394899 2008 1C US MS68RD
1 5 12800188 394899 2008 1C US MS67RD
1 6 12800189 394899 2008 1C US MS68RD
Total Items: 6
Date Received: 3/13/2008
So what we see here is how these black spots on modern lincolns are lessening the submissions to PCGS. Now are going into this big commemerative year, and these spots are so bad that collectors are not even bothering submitting. It seems that PCGS should have a vested interest in cleaning up abe.
There ya go....thats our SLOGAN *******CLEAN UP ABE*******NO MORE BLACK SPOTS**********
<< <i>Why don't you submit a box and tell us how it turns out? >>
Boy at $8 a coin, that'll cost a lot...
<< <i>How would you get them graded for $8? Bulk? >>
Bulk prices are determined by grade.
The name is LEE!