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BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Also... Yeah or Nah on the Obverse toning image

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  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    I think you need to set the white balance on that first.

    Weak strike MS63?

    The spotted toning does not seem that attractive to me.
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS63... the toning looks like it was there when the poop hit the fan.... image Cheers, RickO
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>MS63... the toning looks like it was there when the poop hit the fan.... image Cheers, RickO >>



    So RickO tell me how your really feel... you like it image
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  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,408 ✭✭✭
    i'll go out on a ledge here...ms65

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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>i'll go out on a ledge here...ms65 >>



    Did you have a bowl of raw courage for breakfast today imageimageimage
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  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,003 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS63, and I think that toning would dip right off in just a second or two.
    When in doubt, don't.
  • ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 8,124 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>MS63, and I think that toning would dip right off in just a second or two. >>



    Agreed. Dip that Baby!!
  • speetyspeety Posts: 5,424 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>i'll go out on a ledge here...ms65 >>



    Did you have a bowl of raw courage for breakfast today imageimageimage >>



    I did, AU-58. image
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  • AU58WALKERSAU58WALKERS Posts: 3,562 ✭
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I think you need to set the white balance on that first.

    Weak strike MS63?

    The spotted toning does not seem that attractive to me. >>



    Yes you are correct... Pics posted below more of what it looks like in hand by dropping the saturation levels.
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  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,896 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think it looks rather lovely as is.
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I think it looks rather lovely as is. >>



    Thanks TomB! image
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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,463 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I think it looks rather lovely as is. >>


    There is a little dirt under her thumbnail. image
  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,620 ✭✭✭✭✭
    62 shot 63 and I think the coin is fine... a dip would be a disaster for this coin

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  • 66RB66RB Posts: 2,516 ✭✭✭
    There's nothing 'wrong' with that coin.image
    Rob
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  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,873 ✭✭✭✭✭
    are weak skirtlines typical for these early years, as the hand
    seems to be well struck and the rev also well struck?

    63?
    LCoopie = Les
  • RollermanRollerman Posts: 1,891 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not wild about the toning, but would leave it alone as it's original. I don't see this coin as a weak strike however. I see skirt lines and a thumb and plenty of feather on the Eagles breast. It looks like an early date MS65 to me. What am I missing?
    Pete
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  • zeebobzeebob Posts: 2,825 ✭
    MS-64

    The head has good detail. Reasonable strike.

    The scratches are too much for 65. The toning is ugly. Don't dip it, but maybe give it the Taco Bell napkin treatment. Nice luster, just lousy color.

  • coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,749 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>MS63... the toning looks like it was there when the poop hit the fan.... image Cheers, RickO >>















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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Where is the rub I don't see it again!!!!
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  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,829 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Obverse has a few light scratches in the rays and right field. Reverse is WOW. So, let's say MS64?

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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Oh well time to pack it in and call it an early night! image

    The Grade Guesses are as follows =

    2 @ MS65
    2 @ MS64
    5 @ MS63
    1 @ MS62-63

    And then there's speety @ AU58... who ate his bowl of raw courage and isn't going to fall for the lil boy who cried wolf again. image

    Here's the sellers slab pic.

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  • AU58WALKERSAU58WALKERS Posts: 3,562 ✭
    i thought so....
    "Everyday above ground is a good day"

  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,408 ✭✭✭
    <<<And then there's speety @ AU58... who ate his bowl of raw courage and isn't going to fall for the lil boy who cried wolf again.>>>

    lol

    hey i did better with that 16-s in an au50 if you recallimage

    i shoulda known...to heck with a bowl of wheaties...i'm going back to special kimage
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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,463 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>i thought so.... >>



    AU 62 is a little more accurate.
  • AU58WALKERSAU58WALKERS Posts: 3,562 ✭
    ...another au 64 walker.

    I have never understood the grading of au58 walkers. I have seen and owned many pcgs au58 walkers
    that were taken from bank wrapped unc rolls and sent to pcgs and came back au58. I have watched many of these eget cracked out
    and sold raw as uncs. (hell, they were uncs).
    "Everyday above ground is a good day"

  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,408 ✭✭✭
    and then spacemonkey was slinging his 31-s lincoln from his grandfather that sits in a 62 holder incase you peered in on his thread
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  • speetyspeety Posts: 5,424 ✭
    BOYEAH! image

    I know you don't buy anything other then these AU58s that looks MS. image
    Want to buy an auction catalog for the William Hesslein Sale (December 2, 1926). Thanks to all those who have helped us obtain the others!!!

  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>...another au 64 walker.

    I have never understood the grading of au58 walkers. I have seen and owned many pcgs au58 walkers
    that were taken from bank wrapped unc rolls and sent to pcgs and came back au58. I have watched many of these eget cracked out
    and sold raw as uncs. (hell, they were uncs). >>



    Then again there's a plenty of MS63-64's with Stacking or Roll Marks that look more like AU58's... there was just a PCGS MS63 18-P on Ebay based on the obverse I wouldn't have touched that WLH.
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>BOYEAH! image

    I know you don't buy anything other then these AU58s that looks MS. image >>



    I've only de-evolved back to AU58 since becoming friends with MFH, as prior to that I was a MS64-67 guy for 2 decades.

    I'm having a LOT of fun over the course of the last year with these super sliders... yet this may have to be my last "Guess the Grade" as others are catching on! imageimage
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  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,003 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AU58?

    I proved once again that I have no clue about grading early Walkers. image
    When in doubt, don't.
  • FrankcoinsFrankcoins Posts: 4,571 ✭✭✭
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  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,408 ✭✭✭
    here's that ol au50 16-s...maybe you need to drop another 8 points in grade ayeimage
    dayumm did i learn on this one to keep my mouth shut till in hand as the seller played the "oops...we forgot it was already sold card"
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  • PCcoinsPCcoins Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭
    That's cool, as I first viewed the pics and then scrolled down, I was thinking to myself AU58. But as I starting reading others opinions I was thinking an MS grade. Just trust your instinct! image
    "It is what it is."
  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,873 ✭✭✭✭✭
    maybe I should have looked closer at the breast
    LCoopie = Les
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>maybe I should have looked closer at the breast >>



    Don't get all that absorbed on the breast as mentioned below WLH's have Stacking/Roll marks.

    Here's the 18-P that crossed Ebay, I thought it was a 63 it was actually as MS64.

    Item number: 320291659740

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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Rub a dud, told you I could not see the rub.
    You are finding some nice AU58's. Wish I could.
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Rub a dud, told you I could not see the rub.
    You are finding some nice AU58's. Wish I could.
    image >>



    I even posted larger pics for you this time! image
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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,463 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Also... Yeah or Nah on the Obverse toning image

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    While I can understand the grade of AU, the strike detail shows the coin as MINT STATE.
    I'm not a fan of toning, per se. Mottled toning is my least favorite, but I would take this coin any day in my collection.

    Just FYI and thanks for sharing it, Broadstruck.
    Correct me if I'm wrong calling it mottled. image

  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>While I can understand the grade of AU, the strike detail shows the coin as MINT STATE.
    I'm not a fan of toning, per se. Mottled toning is my least favorite, but I would take this coin any day in my collection.

    Just FYI and thanks for sharing it, Broadstruck.
    Correct me if I'm wrong calling it mottled. image >>



    I'm fine with Mottled... it's not the most attractive toning one could wish for. I've never dipped a coin, but feel this example wouldn't survive a dip without looking flat and dead. It has a great strike and the 1918-P is somewhat underrated as I have owned plenty of AU55-AU58 18-S's but the 18-P above VF30 to sometimes XF40 just isn't out there in the same quantity as the S.
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well... I could have called it an AU63.... and been half right...image sure missed the boat on that one.... Cheers, RickO
  • jsfjsf Posts: 1,889
    I wish I could take a pic of any WLH that didn't look flat and dead...

    like others, I can do without the mottled look, but I wouldn't kick it out of my collection, not by any means!


  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Well... I could have called it an AU63.... and been half right...image sure missed the boat on that one.... Cheers, RickO >>



    I think the toning threw you for a loop! imageimage
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  • 50cents50cents Posts: 1,320
    Very nice WLH, Broadstruck image

  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,620 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I thought the problem with this coin was some slight hairlines on the right field and that explains the 58 grade. I think it is nice. I have an 18 in a 58 holder as well without hairlines but not as sharply struck as this one. The reverse is very attractive for the grade

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  • coolestcoolest Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭
    PCGS often calls uncirculated coins AU58.
    I would call this coin a 62 manybe 63, without seeing it in hand.

    Most dealers would call it "GEM BU" if it were raw.
  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,896 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I love the coin as an AU58 and there appears to be very faint hairlines in the fields and on Ms. Liberty that would be consistent with a brief spell in circulation. This is a great coin.
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    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I love the coin as an AU58 and there appears to be very faint hairlines in the fields and on Ms. Liberty that would be consistent with a brief spell in circulation. This is a great coin. >>



    Thanx TomB! image
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