I'll start. I could see myself buying maybe one $3 gold example but no more than that. They do not appeal to me and the pricetag does not justify the purchase (imo)
<< <i>Besides foreign and darkside, what coins do you NOT want to collect? >>
Excuuuse me? You assume nobody would want to collect "foreign" and "Darkside" coins, just like that?
Hmph. How cheeky. I know this is the US Coin Forum, but geez. Just because some of us like US coins too, doesn't mean we don't like world coins as well.
<< <i>Besides foreign and darkside, what coins do you NOT want to collect? >>
Excuuuse me? You assume nobody would want to collect "foreign" and "Darkside" coins, just like that?
Hmph. How cheeky. I know this is the US Coin Forum, but geez. Just because some of us like US coins too, doesn't mean we don't like world coins as well. >>
I thought the exact same thing when I opened the thread. I'm starting to get into gold, but I don't know that I would ever buy a US gold coin. They are just too expensive compared to similar darkside gold coins.
Lots of things are out of my economic range of collecting. But the question is about what I do or do not WANT.
I'll answer the question as if money were no object.
What I don't WANT to collect:
Susan Bs - Typically ugly coin. Only four years of production. Fiddly fractional gold - I do not like them, they are too small. Laughably crude. Most are literally tourist trinkets. Zincolns - Argh! Rrrrrr! Hmmmm! Zzzzzz! Pffffft!
These are the coins I have a 'beef' with. The ones I am negative about. I don't hate any other series like I do these. Of course, there is the next level of dislike, but i'll collect those. You know, clad things.
OK, I'll ignore the Darkside slam, then. But Lord Vader is displeased.
To answer your question:
Modern coins do not personally interest me- I need a bit more history to anything I am going to collect, personally. Something a bit more off the beaten track. This is what got me into ancients and yes, Darkside, and on the Liteside, holey coins and Seated Liberty dimes with love token reverses by date. So I like the odd and unusual and am increasingly interested in exonumia these days.
Modern coins, though I would not collect them myself, DO have appealing traits- availability of nice MS and proof examples, for one thing. And lots of nice designs. I just have a hard time finding myself interested in anything that was made during my lifetime. (I was born in 1965 with the advent of clad coinage).
Funny you should mention $3 gold pieces. I have one and only one. It certainly wouldn't win any beauty contests. Oddly enough, though, somebody once made me an offer on it. It's the second "nicest" piece on my Holey Gold Hat, though, so there it stays.
I couldn't find myself getting into collecting anything by die variety, be it early copper cents by Sheldon or Newcomb numbers, Bust halves by Overton numbers, or Morgan dollar VAM varieties. I am too much of a generalist and jack-of-all-trades to get that absorbed into the minutiae of a particular series, much as I might like that series as a type.
Morgan dollars - any coin that occupies half of a coin show isn't for me... Well at least not until i saw Sunnywoods set, i may have to reconsider my choice!
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<< <i> Morgan dollars - any coin that occupies half of a coin show isn't for me... >>
That is the problem with Morgans. They tend to make ones eyes glaze over at shows, don't they? One would think that with so many of them out there to play with, there would be no need to get into all that VAM business, but ah well. To each his own. They are handsome coins, and there are things I do like about them, but they sure clutter up a search for other 19th century material.
I'm another one that collects US and darkside, but in US I don't mess with any of the modern collectibles or bullion related pieces.
Why? I guess I just don't see the fun in collecting coins with mintages in the hundreds of millions, don't see the value in them, don't find most modern US designs attractive, and if I want to speculate in bullion there are cheaper ways to do it. I do have the 2005 and 2006 Nickels in proof, simply because I liked the obverse portraits, but no intention of collecting the whole set of Jeff's. And I have an example of most of the 20th C. proofs for my proof type set. Other than that type set the only US I collect is classic commemoratives. Lots of different designs (admittedly some not so good), and mintages generally in the tens of thousands.
I like lots of world coins. I would collect anything gold.
The one thing I wouldn't collect is an aluminum coin. I really don't like they way they feel. They just don't seem to be real coins. Now watch, someone will post a fabulous aluminum pattern that changes my mind!
Mint spoons, first day cover junk, U.S. mint gold bullion coins at $1,200 an ounce, junk modern coins in mint bags that you can't open without destroying the "value."
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
<< <i>I like lots of world coins. I would collect anything gold.
The one thing I wouldn't collect is an aluminum coin. I really don't like they way they feel. They just don't seem to be real coins. Now watch, someone will post a fabulous aluminum pattern that changes my mind! >>
I don't think that this can be in the fabulous camp....but it may be a contender dis clash and all
<< <i>I like lots of world coins. I would collect anything gold.
The one thing I wouldn't collect is an aluminum coin. I really don't like they way they feel. They just don't seem to be real coins. Now watch, someone will post a fabulous aluminum pattern that changes my mind! >>
Alumoinum may make crappy coins but they often make wonderful collectors' items. As coins they wear rapidly and suffer horrible damage and attrition very rapidly. Since most people feel they are garbage they sometimes aren't saved at all and become quite scarce in decent condition very rapid- ly. Aluminum does strike up remarkably well and some coins like 1953 Yugoslavian coinage will often appear as a stunning PL. Designs can be high relief and can be absolutely gorgeous like the 1939 Hungarian Pengo.
Aluminum coinage is probably the most underrated in the world.
How many 1869 coins do you think made it to the moon or sat in Armstrong's locker at Cape Kennedy when he went to the moon?
Modern coins weren't made in any more of a vacuum than classics were. No one waved a magic wand and moderns appeared inde- pendently of their era or need. Coins do not take on "history" as they get older. Even if this were true would it not follow that anc- ient coins would be the most desirable. Wouldn't it follow that col- onials must be siperior to federal and the older coins that circulated in the Americas more desirable yet?
That you aren't interested in these other eras is no indication that others aren't and it certainly doesn't mean that they are less histor- ic. Once coins are fully distributed they are just as real and just as "historic" as any other coins.
The one thing I wouldn't collect is an aluminum coin. I really don't like they way they feel. They just don't seem to be real coins. Now watch, someone will post a fabulous aluminum pattern that changes my mind! >>
Not a pattern, but considered by many both here and abroad to likely be unique in Proof -Preussen
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I find it funny that people always say that modern coinage has no historical value. Seriously, I laugh. We're living the time that WILL give it historical value in the future. The real question is weather or not we will live long enough to realize exactly what it's historical value is.
I'm sure in the early days of the country there were probably people that thought anything that wasn't a Piece of Eight had no real value!
I have not found anything that I wouldn't want to collect yet.
Unless you count toned and graded coins.
I don't care for toning (see Ricko's comments, I agree on the toning with his thoughts) and I just generally dislike anything graded. Back when I collected basketball cards I wouldn't buy any graded cards there either, nor will I buy any graded comic books or action figures (other hobbies of mine) and I won't buy any graded coins either.
I don't need to pay some people money to tell me if my coin is "good" or not-I'll know by looking at it!
The only coins I do not want to collect are "problem" coins. I never have liked them and I don't think I ever will . Why ? That is self explanatory. There might be a rare occasion of which Lordmarcovan can relate where a holed, scratched, dug up or otherwise rare piece is desireable, but for collecting ? I like problem free coins.
The only coins I wouldn't collect are coins that are too expensive for me to complete the set in the grade I desire. In most cases I could just collect a lower grade and still be happy but any coin I'm accus- tomed to seeing in unc I'd like to complete in gem.
If I had it to do over I wouldn't have collected any rare coins that are extremely inexpensive; it's just too much work and, apparently, a pret- ty thankless job.
The one thing I wouldn't collect is an aluminum coin. I really don't like they way they feel. They just don't seem to be real coins. Now watch, someone will post a fabulous aluminum pattern that changes my mind! >>
Not a pattern, but considered by many both here and abroad to likely be unique in Proof -Preussen
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Beautiful coin and considering its scarcity a very remarkable one as well.
It also demonstrates the concept of rarity among very high mintage coin- age. The circulation issue of this coin had a huge mintage but it was not only consumed by the ravages of circulation but the ravages of war. De- spite the huge mintage and generally good quality it sells for over $100 in gem condition and $60 in unc.
Lest anyone think this is caused mostly by war consider that the even high- er mintage 1950-E 10p is worth a $1000 in unc.
Even though most people hate aluminum and there are very few collectors the prices are high because these coins can not be found.
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<< <i>Besides foreign and darkside, what coins do you NOT want to collect? >>
Excuuuse me? You assume nobody would want to collect "foreign" and "Darkside" coins, just like that?
Hmph. How cheeky. I know this is the US Coin Forum, but geez. Just because some of us like US coins too, doesn't mean we don't like world coins as well.
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<< <i>Besides foreign and darkside, what coins do you NOT want to collect? >>
Excuuuse me? You assume nobody would want to collect "foreign" and "Darkside" coins, just like that?
Hmph. How cheeky. I know this is the US Coin Forum, but geez. Just because some of us like US coins too, doesn't mean we don't like world coins as well.
I thought the exact same thing when I opened the thread. I'm starting to get into gold, but I don't know that I would ever buy a US gold coin. They are just too expensive compared to similar darkside gold coins.
Lots of things are out of my economic range of collecting. But the question is about what I do or do not WANT.
I'll answer the question as if money were no object.
What I don't WANT to collect:
Susan Bs - Typically ugly coin. Only four years of production.
Fiddly fractional gold - I do not like them, they are too small. Laughably crude. Most are literally tourist trinkets.
Zincolns - Argh! Rrrrrr! Hmmmm! Zzzzzz! Pffffft!
These are the coins I have a 'beef' with. The ones I am negative about.
I don't hate any other series like I do these.
Of course, there is the next level of dislike, but i'll collect those. You know, clad things.
To answer your question:
Modern coins do not personally interest me- I need a bit more history to anything I am going to collect, personally. Something a bit more off the beaten track. This is what got me into ancients and yes, Darkside, and on the Liteside, holey coins and Seated Liberty dimes with love token reverses by date. So I like the odd and unusual and am increasingly interested in exonumia these days.
Modern coins, though I would not collect them myself, DO have appealing traits- availability of nice MS and proof examples, for one thing. And lots of nice designs. I just have a hard time finding myself interested in anything that was made during my lifetime. (I was born in 1965 with the advent of clad coinage).
Funny you should mention $3 gold pieces. I have one and only one. It certainly wouldn't win any beauty contests. Oddly enough, though, somebody once made me an offer on it. It's the second "nicest" piece on my Holey Gold Hat, though, so there it stays.
I couldn't find myself getting into collecting anything by die variety, be it early copper cents by Sheldon or Newcomb numbers, Bust halves by Overton numbers, or Morgan dollar VAM varieties. I am too much of a generalist and jack-of-all-trades to get that absorbed into the minutiae of a particular series, much as I might like that series as a type.
As for foreign /darkside.....actively.
<< <i> Morgan dollars - any coin that occupies half of a coin show isn't for me... >>
That is the problem with Morgans. They tend to make ones eyes glaze over at shows, don't they? One would think that with so many of them out there to play with, there would be no need to get into all that VAM business, but ah well. To each his own. They are handsome coins, and there are things I do like about them, but they sure clutter up a search for other 19th century material.
Why? I guess I just don't see the fun in collecting coins with mintages in the hundreds of millions, don't see the value in them, don't find most modern US designs attractive, and if I want to speculate in bullion there are cheaper ways to do it. I do have the 2005 and 2006 Nickels in proof, simply because I liked the obverse portraits, but no intention of collecting the whole set of Jeff's. And I have an example of most of the 20th C. proofs for my proof type set. Other than that type set the only US I collect is classic commemoratives. Lots of different designs (admittedly some not so good), and mintages generally in the tens of thousands.
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I find the design uninteresting and really dislike the overall appearance of some of the MS examples I have seen. Clunky clads
don't like'em
The one thing I wouldn't collect is an aluminum coin. I really don't like they way they feel. They just don't seem to be real coins. Now watch, someone will post a fabulous aluminum pattern that changes my mind!
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<< <i>I like lots of world coins. I would collect anything gold.
The one thing I wouldn't collect is an aluminum coin. I really don't like they way they feel. They just don't seem to be real coins. Now watch, someone will post a fabulous aluminum pattern that changes my mind! >>
I don't think that this can be in the fabulous camp....but it may be a contender
dis clash and all
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They have no historical value.
Moderns are pretty limited to the 7070 page for me.
<< <i>I like lots of world coins. I would collect anything gold.
The one thing I wouldn't collect is an aluminum coin. I really don't like they way they feel. They just don't seem to be real coins. Now watch, someone will post a fabulous aluminum pattern that changes my mind! >>
Alumoinum may make crappy coins but they often make
wonderful collectors' items. As coins they wear rapidly and
suffer horrible damage and attrition very rapidly. Since most
people feel they are garbage they sometimes aren't saved
at all and become quite scarce in decent condition very rapid-
ly. Aluminum does strike up remarkably well and some coins
like 1953 Yugoslavian coinage will often appear as a stunning
PL. Designs can be high relief and can be absolutely gorgeous
like the 1939 Hungarian Pengo.
Aluminum coinage is probably the most underrated in the world.
<< <i>moderns.
They have no historical value. >>
Horsecrap.
How many 1869 coins do you think made it to the moon or sat in
Armstrong's locker at Cape Kennedy when he went to the moon?
Modern coins weren't made in any more of a vacuum than classics
were. No one waved a magic wand and moderns appeared inde-
pendently of their era or need. Coins do not take on "history" as
they get older. Even if this were true would it not follow that anc-
ient coins would be the most desirable. Wouldn't it follow that col-
onials must be siperior to federal and the older coins that circulated
in the Americas more desirable yet?
That you aren't interested in these other eras is no indication that
others aren't and it certainly doesn't mean that they are less histor-
ic. Once coins are fully distributed they are just as real and just as
"historic" as any other coins.
<< <i>...
The one thing I wouldn't collect is an aluminum coin. I really don't like they way they feel. They just don't seem to be real coins. Now watch, someone will post a fabulous aluminum pattern that changes my mind! >>
Not a pattern, but considered by many both here and abroad to likely be unique in Proof
I'm sure in the early days of the country there were probably people that thought anything that wasn't a Piece of Eight had no real value!
I have not found anything that I wouldn't want to collect yet.
Unless you count toned and graded coins.
I don't care for toning (see Ricko's comments, I agree on the toning with his thoughts) and I just generally dislike anything graded. Back when I collected basketball cards I wouldn't buy any graded cards there either, nor will I buy any graded comic books or action figures (other hobbies of mine) and I won't buy any graded coins either.
I don't need to pay some people money to tell me if my coin is "good" or not-I'll know by looking at it!
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me to complete the set in the grade I desire. In most cases I could
just collect a lower grade and still be happy but any coin I'm accus-
tomed to seeing in unc I'd like to complete in gem.
If I had it to do over I wouldn't have collected any rare coins that are
extremely inexpensive; it's just too much work and, apparently, a pret-
ty thankless job.
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<< <i>...
The one thing I wouldn't collect is an aluminum coin. I really don't like they way they feel. They just don't seem to be real coins. Now watch, someone will post a fabulous aluminum pattern that changes my mind! >>
Not a pattern, but considered by many both here and abroad to likely be unique in Proof
Beautiful coin and considering its scarcity a very remarkable one as well.
It also demonstrates the concept of rarity among very high mintage coin-
age. The circulation issue of this coin had a huge mintage but it was not
only consumed by the ravages of circulation but the ravages of war. De-
spite the huge mintage and generally good quality it sells for over $100 in
gem condition and $60 in unc.
Lest anyone think this is caused mostly by war consider that the even high-
er mintage 1950-E 10p is worth a $1000 in unc.
Even though most people hate aluminum and there are very few collectors
the prices are high because these coins can not be found.