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75t rack pack...bust - grades in

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  • Carew29Carew29 Posts: 4,025 ✭✭

    It will get a 5 for that "mysterious" paper wrinkle that no one ever sees except for PSA GRaders....image


    IMO a 9.......
  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,751 ✭✭✭
    15134994 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 63 STEVE SWISHER Card US
    15134995 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 93 DAVE LOPES Card US
    15134996 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1975 TOPPS 99 MIKE HEGAN Card US
    15134997 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 122 AL HRABOSKY Card US
    15134998 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 132 RANDY MOFFITT Card US
    15134999 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 1 '74 HIGHLIGHTS HANK AARON Card US
    15135000 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 197 1959-MVP'S N.FOX/E.BANKS Card US
    15135001 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 342 LEROY STANTON Card US
    15135002 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 615 ROOKIE PITCHERS Card US
    15135003 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 645 DANNY CATER Card US


    Thanks,

    David (LD_Ferg)



    1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
  • 44Magnum44Magnum Posts: 244
    Wow, you got robbed on the Aaron! Crack and re-submit?
  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,751 ✭✭✭
    i will post a scan when i receive the card.


    Thanks,

    David (LD_Ferg)



    1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092 ✭
    So robbed.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,820 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I knew that Mad Hungarian would come back a 9!

    Sorry to hear about the Aaron. Also looked like a 9 in the scan, too.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,600 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hegan and Moffitt were nice too. Plenty of resubs in there. PSA has to eat too you know. It was a nice rack though.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,820 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Agree with nam. A number of those cards could have gotten 9s. Tough grader on this sub. Worth trying again.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,751 ✭✭✭
    i can't complain about the turnaround times but i got drilled on my 81s as well.


    Thanks,

    David (LD_Ferg)



    1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
  • BobaFett72BobaFett72 Posts: 7,304
    typical raping by the grader; they must work on resubmission commission image
  • julen23julen23 Posts: 4,558 ✭✭
    .33% now goes up baby!!

    resubmit, as the odds will work in your favor.

    despite alleged rapings...

    J
    image
    RIP GURU
  • jayhawkejayhawke Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭
    Wow, they looked better than the grades. I have about 25 '75 I was going to submit. I might have to review the cards again.
  • sayheykid54sayheykid54 Posts: 779 ✭✭
    No 9??? The only thing I can think of is the l/r centering. It slightly detracts from the cards appearance. I would resubmit that one for sure.
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    um.......huh. that would likely be the nicest card we'll ever see in a PSA 8 holder (pre-resub crap-shoot throw a penny in a fountain).
  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,751 ✭✭✭
    here it is in the holder. i will plan to resubmit. new scan added.

    image


    Thanks,

    David (LD_Ferg)



    1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
  • leadoff4leadoff4 Posts: 2,392 ✭
    My last sub had the same first three(151) as yours. If it's true that that means it's the same grader, then yes, he/she is very tough!!
  • PittfanPittfan Posts: 476
    I have the same card that I tried twice and no luck.

    image
  • PittfanPittfan Posts: 476
    The pubic hair is from my personal collection. image
  • chaz43chaz43 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭


    << <i>here it is in the holder. i will plan to resubmit. new scan added.

    image >>




    I really wish you could have gotten the 9. chaz
  • 1neatstuff1neatstuff Posts: 1,156 ✭✭✭
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  • chaz43chaz43 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I have the same card that I tried twice and no luck.

    image >>



    Bottom chipping makes it hard to get the 9 and t/b centering is a problem as well. chaz
  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
    These color borders always "fill in" and the corners look great on a scan of a high grade card. There must be slight fraying on two of the corners to receive the 8.
  • otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭


    << <i>here it is in the holder. i will plan to resubmit. new scan added.

    image >>


    David:

    It'll be tough pulling a PSA 9 on that Aaron with the t/b centering. It's around 35/65 at best and more like 30/70. Good luck on the resub.
  • 44Magnum44Magnum Posts: 244
    Pittfan,

    Get that short and curly off your scanner!
  • AhzzyAhzzy Posts: 184
    dont forget to trim before resubmiting
    image
  • julen23julen23 Posts: 4,558 ✭✭
    dynamic commentary.

    j
    image
    RIP GURU
  • HighChopperHighChopper Posts: 1,091
    15134999 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 1 '74 HIGHLIGHTS HANK AARON Card US

    Same card came back an '8' for me first time around. Crack and resubmit yielded the '9' it deserved.

    Sold for about a grand.

    Pulled from a GAI cello from Baseball Card Kid.

    Got three '10s' from eight cellos. Should've been more.

    Congrats on a fine looking card.

    You were hosed.
    There's a hole in my head where the rain comes in.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,820 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Got three '10s' from eight cellos. Should've been more.

    Wow, those cellos must have been mighty fine! Usually, cards from 75 cellos are dinged due to the tight wrapping.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • Mickey71Mickey71 Posts: 4,261 ✭✭✭✭
    How is the centering top to bottom measured? Does anyone know PSA's answer on this. I think this could be an arguable issue. I have a feeling there may be a few answers to this question which lead to very inconsistant grading with this particular issue. JMO.
    Mickey71
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,820 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How is the centering top to bottom measured?

    Actually, if memory serves, the apostrophe on the RB cards is supposed to be very highly positioned, so this card is actually very nicely centered.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,751 ✭✭✭
    i have opened a total of 5 - 75 rack packs in the last couple of years and have not yielded a 10 yet....and very few 9s. wax may end up being the better option for higher grades.

    i purchased a 75 mini last week, busted it yesterday and i did not pull any miscuts. this is a first as well. there were some oc, but nothing worse the 75/25 and i'm planning on sending in 5 out of the 10 from the pack. i'm guessing mostly 8s.


    Thanks,

    David (LD_Ferg)



    1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
  • otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭


    << <i>How is the centering top to bottom measured? Does anyone know PSA's answer on this. I think this could be an arguable issue. I have a feeling there may be a few answers to this question which lead to very inconsistant grading with this particular issue. JMO.
    Mickey71 >>



    What is supposed to be versus what is are two different stories. All one need do is ask a seasoned collector about the t/b centering on a '54 Topps Ernie Banks RC and how PSA sees it.
  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,751 ✭✭✭
    second try: image

    EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1975 TOPPS 1 '74 HIGHLIGHTS HANK AARON

    i will try a 3rd time.



    Thanks,

    David (LD_Ferg)



    1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
  • 44Magnum44Magnum Posts: 244


    << <i>EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1975 TOPPS 1 '74 HIGHLIGHTS HANK AARON >>



    It went from an 8 to a 6? Absolutely amazing!
  • thehallmarkthehallmark Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭
    Idferg, can you scan the card again sometime? I'm really curious if anything at all has changed since you first scanned it.

    I feel like you are getting robbed.
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭
    Could it have gotten damaged in the crack-out?
  • BrickBrick Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Could there have been damage during the cracking process? That card certainly looks mint to me. Sorry this happened to you.
    Collecting 1960 Topps Baseball in PSA 8
    http://www.unisquare.com/store/brick/

    Ralph

  • julen23julen23 Posts: 4,558 ✭✭
    pop 10 now w/ hrabosky.

    well done sir.

    j
    image
    RIP GURU
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    a 6???????? truly astonishing. and strange. image
  • jswietonjswieton Posts: 2,870 ✭✭✭
    there is no way that card should get a 6 or 7. Next time it will probably come back as being trimmed. That really sux.
  • OAKESY25OAKESY25 Posts: 4,726 ✭✭✭
    insane.. I have a ton of cards I need to send in.. but my grades lately have resembled these..
    I don't like cracking my own cards out and resubbing
  • bobbybakerivbobbybakeriv Posts: 2,186 ✭✭✭✭
    I don't usually comment on grades, but that is horrible. That card is not a six. PSA blew this one.
  • RogermnjRogermnj Posts: 1,809 ✭✭
    Absurd
  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭
    It's probably a 1/8" scratch that can only be seen under a certain light; one grader saw it, the other didn't. This kind of stuff happens all the time, as anyone who's done any serious cracking and resubmitting can attest.


    Edit to add: I'm not trying to minimize the OP's disappointment. He has, obviously, every right to feel bummed out about this, as any of us would. But the only thing you can see in a scan is the centering and (sometimes) the corners, and that's just not enough information to make an accurate assessment on the grade a card should expect to receive.

  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,751 ✭✭✭
    i'll scan the card when i get it. from an 8 to a 6 is definitely not right....


    Thanks,

    David (LD_Ferg)



    1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
  • PittfanPittfan Posts: 476
    I have mine listed on ebay right now, less the pubey. After the other one getting a 6 I don't believe I will try again.
  • mtcardsmtcards Posts: 3,340 ✭✭✭
    8 to 6??

    I would be curious as to what PSA would say the reason for this is. Either they damaged it second time around, they have incompetent graders or the dart board was turned at an angle on the Aaron card.
    IT IS ALWAYS CHEAPER TO NOT SELL ON EBAY
  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,751 ✭✭✭
    here are the 2.

    8 before, 6 after resub - obvious flaw with top left corner.... image

    imageimage


    Thanks,

    David (LD_Ferg)



    1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
  • TheHunTheHun Posts: 1,690
    What a shame. Did this get damaged in transition, the crackout or at PSA ?
  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,751 ✭✭✭
    good question. no way to pin point it. i did not scan after crackout from the 8 before resending. lesson learned.


    Thanks,

    David (LD_Ferg)



    1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
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