How would a penny that resided under floor boards be so Red anyway? Doesn't the coin react with the air and turn the copper brown eventually? And wouldn't there be bad residue, gunk, etc. if it were under floor boards?
Eric, if you are willing to pay $900 for a coin like that. . .we can definitely do some business together, buddy! I have tons of coins to offer to sell you!
A lie told often enough becomes the truth. ~Vladimir Lenin
My money is on a very nice RB 1909 VDB. Probably MS63-64. The seller will feign ignorance or disappear and PP or CC will have to come through will a refund.
Then again maybe it'll be a S-VDB in MS66RD that can be flipped for $15K after slabbing!
Here is my theory. The coin may be the real thing. The seller obviously knows very little about coins. Grandpa was showing off his prized coin and mentioned the value, leaves coin out on desk, and forgets to put it away. Grandchild sees opportunity to sell and buy video games, but does not want to post full pictures of possibly slabbed coin because it could be traced. When coin is sold, it would be removed from slab and sent to buyer.
I think the seller is full of it, he obviously knows its value, if you knew nothing about coins as he claims, and you were selling a coin you found, how would you know to say its a 1909 s VDB
<< <i>"So any suggestions on how I should make payment that would give me the best chance of recovering my $$ if this goes south would be appreciated!"
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PayPal funded with a credit card.
Be prepared for the seller to claim a "problem" with PayPal. If that happens, simply tell them to fix the "problem" and that you will ONLY pay via PayPal.
The seller may have a 21-day PP hold on the funds that will not be released until the item is satisfactorily delivered.
This is a 100% SCAM. Gladly, a sophisticated person is the intended victim; the scam will fail. >>
As he said. But this is such an obvious scam, I can't believe anyone bid unless it was to save others.
I have been in touch with the seller about the way the item was to be shipped, I suggested Priority Mail Insured and that I would pay for the difference and to send an updated invoice which they did this afternoon.
Well a couple minutes ago I get this ....
Dear beers3740,
Dear Sir,
I have received a second chance offer on the 1909S VDB penny you previously won, Item # 180269925828.
Can you confirm that you did not go thru with the purchase and why?
I am considering the offer, but am concerned at this point.
<< <i>UPDATE I have been in touch with the seller about the way the item was to be shipped, I suggested Priority Mail Insured and that I would pay for the difference and to send an updated invoice which they did this afternoon. Well a couple minutes ago I get this .... Dear beers3740, Dear Sir, I have received a second chance offer on the 1909S VDB penny you previously won, Item # 180269925828. Can you confirm that you did not go thru with the purchase and why? I am considering the offer, but am concerned at this point. Thank You .......................................................................................................................................................................... I left out his ID but it was the second bidder in line..... I have not paypaled this yet either......opinions? >>
That means that the seller has more than one of these coins, and thus they aren't legit. I'd bail at this point. I commend you on your willingness to take a chance but I'd say this seals the deal. Confront the seller and see what they say. They can't leave you a neg. --Jerry
1) You have an opportunity to prevent a second person from being scammed. By all means, do so. 2) Are you seriously still considering paying this person? There may be aspects to this scam yet to unfold. You may think you are protected, but what if that angle has been covered by this fraudster?
<< <i>UPDATE I have been in touch with the seller about the way the item was to be shipped, I suggested Priority Mail Insured and that I would pay for the difference and to send an updated invoice which they did this afternoon. Well a couple minutes ago I get this .... Dear beers3740, Dear Sir, I have received a second chance offer on the 1909S VDB penny you previously won, Item # 180269925828. Can you confirm that you did not go thru with the purchase and why? I am considering the offer, but am concerned at this point. Thank You .......................................................................................................................................................................... I left out his ID but it was the second bidder in line..... I have not paypaled this yet either......opinions? >>
That means that the seller has more than one of these coins, and thus they aren't legit. I'd bail at this point. I commend you on your willingness to take a chance but I'd say this seals the deal. Confront the seller and see what they say. They can't leave you a neg. --Jerry >>
Notwilight, I'm not following your line of thought.
How do you figure the seller has more than one of these coins?
<< <i>UPDATE I have been in touch with the seller about the way the item was to be shipped, I suggested Priority Mail Insured and that I would pay for the difference and to send an updated invoice which they did this afternoon. Well a couple minutes ago I get this .... Dear beers3740, Dear Sir, I have received a second chance offer on the 1909S VDB penny you previously won, Item # 180269925828. Can you confirm that you did not go thru with the purchase and why? I am considering the offer, but am concerned at this point. Thank You .......................................................................................................................................................................... I left out his ID but it was the second bidder in line..... I have not paypaled this yet either......opinions? >>
That means that the seller has more than one of these coins, and thus they aren't legit. I'd bail at this point. I commend you on your willingness to take a chance but I'd say this seals the deal. Confront the seller and see what they say. They can't leave you a neg. --Jerry >>
Notwilight, I'm not following your line of thought. How do you figure the seller has more than one of these coins? Also, what does that add to the equation?? Thanks GB >>
Second chance offers can mean the buyer didn't follow through or the seller has more than one. My thought is he doesn't really have an S-VDB he found in the floor. He has junk or isn't planning to send anything. In that case he has an infinite supply. I just reviewed feedback and all previous feedback was kids electronic games...then nothing for a month, then this. It could be hijacked or it could be a teenager trying a scam. --Jerry
Edit: what does it add to the equation? it pushes me over the hump to conclude definite scam.
Perhaps he found a whole roll under the floor? These could be the nice shiny ones from the center of the roll. I wonder what the edge toners look like?
<< <i>UPDATE I have been in touch with the seller about the way the item was to be shipped, I suggested Priority Mail Insured and that I would pay for the difference and to send an updated invoice which they did this afternoon. Well a couple minutes ago I get this .... Dear beers3740, Dear Sir, I have received a second chance offer on the 1909S VDB penny you previously won, Item # 180269925828. Can you confirm that you did not go thru with the purchase and why? I am considering the offer, but am concerned at this point. Thank You .......................................................................................................................................................................... I left out his ID but it was the second bidder in line..... I have not paypaled this yet either......opinions? >>
That means that the seller has more than one of these coins, and thus they aren't legit. I'd bail at this point. I commend you on your willingness to take a chance but I'd say this seals the deal. Confront the seller and see what they say. They can't leave you a neg. --Jerry >>
Notwilight, I'm not following your line of thought. How do you figure the seller has more than one of these coins? Also, what does that add to the equation?? Thanks GB >>
Second chance offers can mean the buyer didn't follow through or the seller has more than one. My thought is he doesn't really have an S-VDB he found in the floor. He has junk or isn't planning to send anything. In that case he has an infinite supply. I just reviewed feedback and all previous feedback was kids electronic games...then nothing for a month, then this. It could be hijacked or it could be a teenager trying a scam. --Jerry
Edit: what does it add to the equation? it pushes me over the hump to conclude definite scam. >>
Wow Wow Wow....thanks for clearing that up.
I look forward to Sumorada taking this guy(gal?) to task.
Keep this thread at the top everyone!!!!!!
Has anyone reported this guy at this point.....the seller's Q&A is totally laughable, if not pitiful....batteries dead in the camera!!!
I just warned the OP who got the 2nd chance offer........
Edited to add...........If I were going to try and scam someone I would put up a pic of both sides of the coin....and I would not make my ebay ID my real name and area code..
"I have not paypaled this yet either......opinions?"
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If you pay, you will NOT be covered for over $200 by PP. If you use a credit card via PP, you will be covered for the difference between $200 and the total price.
Whether you pay or not, you will NEVER see the coin; it does NOT exist.
Tell the underbidder it's a SCAM.
Tell EBAY it's a SCAM. Not that they care, but tell them anyway.
Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
<< <i>I just warned the OP who got the 2nd chance offer........ Edited to add...........If I were going to try and scam someone I would put up a pic of both sides of the coin....and I would not make my ebay ID my real name and area code.. >>
I agree with you. This looked to me like it might have a good chance of being real for a while. If I were you I'd call paypal tomorrow and ask what they recommend. I'd say, "I purchased an item on ebay that looked a little wierd but now looks like a full blown scam. Am I 100% protected by paypal? Does paypal recommend paying?" You sell enough to have a paypal account manager, don't you? --jerry
You sell enough to have a paypal account manager, don't you? --jerry
Yes!..
I still have a feeling that these people just do not know what they are doing, I did some checking yesterday on the seller before I even bid, This is a small town of 5-7000 with what looks like 3-4 generations of the same last name..?
Yes it's a small town. Like many of these towns, it's filled with ignorant scumbags looking to rip people off if they can get away with it.
They probably have some fakes and want to see what they can get for them. The Lincoln looks like one of the fakes that has been discussed here on this board, e.g., with the VDB not centered between the wheat stalks.
<< <i>Yes it's a small town. Like many of these towns, it's filled with ignorant scumbags looking to rip people off if they can get away with it.
They probably have some fakes and want to see what they can get for them. The Lincoln looks like one of the fakes that has been discussed here on this board, e.g., with the VDB not centered between the wheat stalks. >>
THE VDB IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE CENTERED!
That being said, I've never seen such a determined fool to part with his money.
<< <i>Yes it's a small town. Like many of these towns, it's filled with ignorant scumbags looking to rip people off if they can get away with it.
They probably have some fakes and want to see what they can get for them. The Lincoln looks like one of the fakes that has been discussed here on this board, e.g., with the VDB not centered between the wheat stalks. >>
"filled with" ???
MOST people in small town WV would bend over backwards to help you.
Most would. But there are certainly those that look to rip off outsiders. I should have used something other than "filled with". Perhaps sprinkled with scumbags would have been better.
I lived in the area for 10 years. Very nice people....most of them. Watch out for the inbred scumbags, though!
This sure has been an interesting read. There is no doubt in my mind this is a scam due to the odd situation with the camera batteries and poor picture quality. But what sealed the bs story for me was the 2nd chance offer.
Did you hear that the Governor's mansion in West Virginia burned down? Almost took out the whole trailer park.
What's the difference between Virginia and West Virginia? In Virginia, Moosehead is a beer. In West Virginia it's a misdemeanor.
Did you hear that they have raised the minimum drinking age in West Virginia to 32? It seems they want to keep alcohol out of the high schools!
What's the difference between a Maryland zoo and a West Virginia zoo? On the cage in a Maryland zoo, it will have the name of the animal and the scientific name in Latin. A West Virginia zoo will have the name of the animal and a recipe.
<< <i>I still have a feeling that these people just do not know what they are doing, I did some checking yesterday on the seller before I even bid, This is a small town of 5-7000 with what looks like 3-4 generations of the same last name..? >>
The Population was 5,303 in 2000. Per capita income was $13,813. I looked them (Shears) up on Zaba, about 5 listed at the same address. Still, what do you think about them using a pic where the coin appears to be in a slab (with white insert, such as NGC)? None of us buy the "found it in the floor boards" thing. Then, you find out about the second chance offer? Something's up (understatement). They've made 20 purchases for a total of only $243.43 for mostly kids games. They are either kids, adults buying for kids, or "adults" living like children. The whole thing is a sordid mess. The one extremely small reverse pic ("camera is needing batteries" - "camera is running down the battery"). Sounds like they need more play money. It's possible that with the second chance offer, they were thinking someone else would just hurry up and send them the money (for a coin they are never going to get).
This is obviously a scam and this seller can send out as many "Second Chance" offers as he likes....NO ONE who takes the seller up on the offer is going to receive a 1909-S VDB. That being said, I don't know why the seller would feel compelled to notify the original buyer, when he could just send out the "Second Chance" offers and start reeling in the suckers.
i am stunned you thought this was even close to being legit.
I was never convinced of this being anything more then a 50/50 shot.....by winning the auction I gave myself the opportunity to check it out further and get some opinions with no downside.........unless I do something stupid like pay with no recourse, which I will not do.
As someone stated earlier this may have kept somebody from getting taken, who knows?
"...That being said, I don't know why the seller would feel compelled to notify the original buyer, when he could just send out the "Second Chance" offers and start reeling in the suckers. .."
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The 1st-underbidder got the SCO and notified the high-bidder.
The "seller" prolly sent SCOs to every bidder; except for his shill.
Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
Here is another theory. You send him the money via PayPal, he ships it insured for $1,000. He sends you an empty box and he files a claim with the PO. He gets $1,000 from the Post Office and gives your money back to you. He walks away with $1,000 bucks. You can't prove he didn't send you a bright shiney 1909 S VDB penny and can't file a chargeback on your CC through PayPal because he gave you your money back.
I could be totally wrong but this guy might be fooling a lot of people... I would open the box in front of a clerk at the Post Office if he does send something so they can verify the contents. Even better, a police officer.
<< <i>i am stunned you thought this was even close to being legit. I was never convinced of this being anything more then a 50/50 shot.....by winning the auction I gave myself the opportunity to check it out further and get some opinions with no downside.........unless I do something stupid like pay with no recourse, which I will not do. As someone stated earlier this may have kept somebody from getting taken, who knows? >>
Yes. Good Job. BTW, when I first saw this thread I opened the link and the auction has already ended. I saw you had won it so I read the thread already knowing part of the plot. I chuckled to myself knowing all would end well. --Jerry
If the penny was so found in the floor it could not retain that much luster so on the note someone is getting F-ed. All of that drinking going on in West virgina and family sex there is no way a coin can retain a shiny luster. Oh don't forget those varmits inside the floor boards.
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Really?
If so, goodluck!
Also looking for VF-EF Seated halves.
Sell me your old auction catalogs...
Can we take bets on what will actually be received if anything?
Eric, if you are willing to pay $900 for a coin like that. . .we can definitely do some business together, buddy! I have tons of coins to offer to sell you!
My money is on a very nice RB 1909 VDB. Probably MS63-64. The seller will feign ignorance or disappear and PP or CC will have to come through will a refund.
Then again maybe it'll be a S-VDB in MS66RD that can be flipped for $15K after slabbing!
Who knows.............
Item Specifics - US Coins
Grade:
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Mint:
San Francisco
Certification:
Uncertified
Material:
Copper
Certification Number:
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Method of Manufacture:
Business Strike
Condition:
Circulated
Grandpa was showing off his prized coin and mentioned the value, leaves coin out on desk, and
forgets to put it away. Grandchild sees opportunity to sell and buy video games, but does not want to
post full pictures of possibly slabbed coin because it could be traced. When coin is sold, it would be removed
from slab and sent to buyer.
<< <i>"So any suggestions on how I should make payment that would give me the best chance of recovering my $$ if this goes south would be appreciated!"
//////////////////////////////////
PayPal funded with a credit card.
Be prepared for the seller to claim a "problem" with PayPal.
If that happens, simply tell them to fix the "problem" and
that you will ONLY pay via PayPal.
The seller may have a 21-day PP hold on the funds that will
not be released until the item is satisfactorily delivered.
This is a 100% SCAM. Gladly, a sophisticated person is the
intended victim; the scam will fail. >>
As he said. But this is such an obvious scam, I can't believe anyone bid unless it was to save others.
(actually, it's a used FEMA trailer).
``https://ebay.us/m/KxolR5
UPDATE
I have been in touch with the seller about the way the item was to be shipped, I suggested Priority Mail Insured and that I would pay for the difference and to send an updated invoice which they did this afternoon.
Well a couple minutes ago I get this ....
Dear beers3740,
Dear Sir,
I have received a second chance offer on the 1909S VDB penny you previously won, Item # 180269925828.
Can you confirm that you did not go thru with the purchase and why?
I am considering the offer, but am concerned at this point.
Thank You
..........................................................................................................................................................................
I left out his ID but it was the second bidder in line.....
I have not paypaled this yet either......opinions?
<< <i>UPDATE I have been in touch with the seller about the way the item was to be shipped, I suggested Priority Mail Insured and that I would pay for the difference and to send an updated invoice which they did this afternoon. Well a couple minutes ago I get this .... Dear beers3740, Dear Sir, I have received a second chance offer on the 1909S VDB penny you previously won, Item # 180269925828. Can you confirm that you did not go thru with the purchase and why? I am considering the offer, but am concerned at this point. Thank You .......................................................................................................................................................................... I left out his ID but it was the second bidder in line..... I have not paypaled this yet either......opinions? >>
That means that the seller has more than one of these coins, and thus they aren't legit. I'd bail at this point. I commend you on your willingness to take a chance but I'd say this seals the deal. Confront the seller and see what they say. They can't leave you a neg. --Jerry
1) You have an opportunity to prevent a second person from being scammed. By all means, do so.
2) Are you seriously still considering paying this person? There may be aspects to this scam yet to unfold. You may think you are protected, but what if that angle has been covered by this fraudster?
<< <i>
<< <i>UPDATE I have been in touch with the seller about the way the item was to be shipped, I suggested Priority Mail Insured and that I would pay for the difference and to send an updated invoice which they did this afternoon. Well a couple minutes ago I get this .... Dear beers3740, Dear Sir, I have received a second chance offer on the 1909S VDB penny you previously won, Item # 180269925828. Can you confirm that you did not go thru with the purchase and why? I am considering the offer, but am concerned at this point. Thank You .......................................................................................................................................................................... I left out his ID but it was the second bidder in line..... I have not paypaled this yet either......opinions? >>
That means that the seller has more than one of these coins, and thus they aren't legit. I'd bail at this point. I commend you on your willingness to take a chance but I'd say this seals the deal. Confront the seller and see what they say. They can't leave you a neg. --Jerry >>
Notwilight, I'm not following your line of thought.
How do you figure the seller has more than one of these coins?
Also, what does that add to the equation??
Thanks
GB
<< <i>UPDATE
..........................................................................................................................................................................
I left out his ID but it was the second bidder in line.....
I have not paypaled this yet either......opinions? >>
Did you tell the seller that you were not going to purchase the item?
<< <i>
<< <i>
<< <i>UPDATE I have been in touch with the seller about the way the item was to be shipped, I suggested Priority Mail Insured and that I would pay for the difference and to send an updated invoice which they did this afternoon. Well a couple minutes ago I get this .... Dear beers3740, Dear Sir, I have received a second chance offer on the 1909S VDB penny you previously won, Item # 180269925828. Can you confirm that you did not go thru with the purchase and why? I am considering the offer, but am concerned at this point. Thank You .......................................................................................................................................................................... I left out his ID but it was the second bidder in line..... I have not paypaled this yet either......opinions? >>
That means that the seller has more than one of these coins, and thus they aren't legit. I'd bail at this point. I commend you on your willingness to take a chance but I'd say this seals the deal. Confront the seller and see what they say. They can't leave you a neg. --Jerry >>
Notwilight, I'm not following your line of thought. How do you figure the seller has more than one of these coins? Also, what does that add to the equation?? Thanks GB >>
Second chance offers can mean the buyer didn't follow through or the seller has more than one. My thought is he doesn't really have an S-VDB he found in the floor. He has junk or isn't planning to send anything. In that case he has an infinite supply. I just reviewed feedback and all previous feedback was kids electronic games...then nothing for a month, then this. It could be hijacked or it could be a teenager trying a scam. --Jerry
Edit: what does it add to the equation? it pushes me over the hump to conclude definite scam.
<< <i>
<< <i>
<< <i>
<< <i>UPDATE I have been in touch with the seller about the way the item was to be shipped, I suggested Priority Mail Insured and that I would pay for the difference and to send an updated invoice which they did this afternoon. Well a couple minutes ago I get this .... Dear beers3740, Dear Sir, I have received a second chance offer on the 1909S VDB penny you previously won, Item # 180269925828. Can you confirm that you did not go thru with the purchase and why? I am considering the offer, but am concerned at this point. Thank You .......................................................................................................................................................................... I left out his ID but it was the second bidder in line..... I have not paypaled this yet either......opinions? >>
That means that the seller has more than one of these coins, and thus they aren't legit. I'd bail at this point. I commend you on your willingness to take a chance but I'd say this seals the deal. Confront the seller and see what they say. They can't leave you a neg. --Jerry >>
Notwilight, I'm not following your line of thought. How do you figure the seller has more than one of these coins? Also, what does that add to the equation?? Thanks GB >>
Second chance offers can mean the buyer didn't follow through or the seller has more than one. My thought is he doesn't really have an S-VDB he found in the floor. He has junk or isn't planning to send anything. In that case he has an infinite supply. I just reviewed feedback and all previous feedback was kids electronic games...then nothing for a month, then this. It could be hijacked or it could be a teenager trying a scam. --Jerry
Edit: what does it add to the equation? it pushes me over the hump to conclude definite scam. >>
Wow Wow Wow....thanks for clearing that up.
I look forward to Sumorada taking this guy(gal?) to task.
Keep this thread at the top everyone!!!!!!
Has anyone reported this guy at this point.....the seller's Q&A is totally laughable, if not pitiful....batteries dead in the camera!!!
Edited to add...........If I were going to try and scam someone I would put up a pic of both sides of the coin....and I would not make my ebay ID my real name and area code..
///////////////
If you pay, you will NOT be covered for over $200 by PP. If you use a credit card via PP,
you will be covered for the difference between $200 and the total price.
Whether you pay or not, you will NEVER see the coin; it does NOT exist.
Tell the underbidder it's a SCAM.
Tell EBAY it's a SCAM. Not that they care, but tell them anyway.
Tell EBAY it's a SCAM. Not that they care, but tell them anyway.
If I tell them now I won't get a chance to neg her!
<< <i>I just warned the OP who got the 2nd chance offer........ Edited to add...........If I were going to try and scam someone I would put up a pic of both sides of the coin....and I would not make my ebay ID my real name and area code.. >>
I agree with you. This looked to me like it might have a good chance of being real for a while. If I were you I'd call paypal tomorrow and ask what they recommend. I'd say, "I purchased an item on ebay that looked a little wierd but now looks like a full blown scam. Am I 100% protected by paypal? Does paypal recommend paying?" You sell enough to have a paypal account manager, don't you? --jerry
<< <i>Tell EBAY it's a SCAM. Not that they care, but tell them anyway.
If I tell them now I won't get a chance to neg her! >>
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You can NEG them now:
"Scamster Sent Second Chance Offers To Underbidders. Criminal Fraudster Has No Coin."
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$200 limit for the unverified scamster.
..........
The ONLY reason to bid on such listings is to SCR*W the criminals,
and protect the newbies.
There is ZERO chance that such listings are EVER legitimate.
Yes!..
I still have a feeling that these people just do not know what they are doing, I did some checking yesterday on the seller before I even bid,
This is a small town of 5-7000 with what looks like 3-4 generations of the same last name..?
They probably have some fakes and want to see what they can get for them. The Lincoln looks like one of the fakes that has been discussed here on this board, e.g., with the VDB not centered between the wheat stalks.
<< <i>Yes it's a small town. Like many of these towns, it's filled with ignorant scumbags looking to rip people off if they can get away with it.
They probably have some fakes and want to see what they can get for them. The Lincoln looks like one of the fakes that has been discussed here on this board, e.g., with the VDB not centered between the wheat stalks. >>
THE VDB IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE CENTERED!
That being said, I've never seen such a determined fool to part with his money.
<< <i>Yes it's a small town. Like many of these towns, it's filled with ignorant scumbags looking to rip people off if they can get away with it.
They probably have some fakes and want to see what they can get for them. The Lincoln looks like one of the fakes that has been discussed here on this board, e.g., with the VDB not centered between the wheat stalks. >>
"filled with" ???
MOST people in small town WV would bend over backwards to help you.
Edited due to sense of morality.
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They know EXACTLY what they are doing.
New sellers on EBAY have to be "verified," OR they can buy 10-items. (Junk video-games and a blow-up kiddie pool.)
I lived in the area for 10 years. Very nice people....most of them. Watch out for the inbred scumbags, though!
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That is certainly VERY true.
The instant WV "seller," however, is a criminal.
I'll edit my post and calm down. We have our share of filth but not filled with it.
RUN AWAY!!
Rob
"Those guys weren't Fathers they were...Mothers."
Almost took out the whole trailer park.
What's the difference between Virginia and West Virginia?
In Virginia, Moosehead is a beer. In West Virginia it's a misdemeanor.
Did you hear that they have raised the minimum drinking age in West Virginia to 32?
It seems they want to keep alcohol out of the high schools!
What's the difference between a Maryland zoo and a West Virginia zoo?
On the cage in a Maryland zoo, it will have the name of the animal and the scientific name in Latin. A West Virginia zoo will have the name of the animal and a recipe.
Sorry, I just couldn't resist.
<< <i>I still have a feeling that these people just do not know what they are doing, I did some checking yesterday on the seller before I even bid,
This is a small town of 5-7000 with what looks like 3-4 generations of the same last name..? >>
The Population was 5,303 in 2000. Per capita income was $13,813. I looked them (Shears) up on Zaba, about 5 listed at the same address. Still, what do you think about them using a pic where the coin appears to be in a slab (with white insert, such as NGC)? None of us buy the "found it in the floor boards" thing. Then, you find out about the second chance offer? Something's up (understatement). They've made 20 purchases for a total of only $243.43 for mostly kids games. They are either kids, adults buying for kids, or "adults" living like children. The whole thing is a sordid mess. The one extremely small reverse pic ("camera is needing batteries" - "camera is running down the battery"). Sounds like they need more play money. It's possible that with the second chance offer, they were thinking someone else would just hurry up and send them the money (for a coin they are never going to get).
you will never get anything and the seller is trying to maximize
their profit/theft.
i am stunned you thought this was even close to being legit.
"Everything is on its way to somewhere. Everything." - George Malley, Phenomenon
http://www.american-legacy-coins.com
I was never convinced of this being anything more then a 50/50 shot.....by winning the auction I gave myself the opportunity to check it out further and get some opinions with
no downside.........unless I do something stupid like pay with no recourse, which I will not do.
As someone stated earlier this may have kept somebody from getting taken, who knows?
///////////////////////////
The 1st-underbidder got the SCO and notified the high-bidder.
The "seller" prolly sent SCOs to every bidder; except for his shill.
I could be totally wrong but this guy might be fooling a lot of people... I would open the box in front of a clerk at the Post Office if he does send something so they can verify the contents. Even better, a police officer.
I just reported it to ebay......I figure if they did send a bunch of SCO's somebody might get burned.
<< <i>i am stunned you thought this was even close to being legit. I was never convinced of this being anything more then a 50/50 shot.....by winning the auction I gave myself the opportunity to check it out further and get some opinions with no downside.........unless I do something stupid like pay with no recourse, which I will not do. As someone stated earlier this may have kept somebody from getting taken, who knows? >>
Yes. Good Job. BTW, when I first saw this thread I opened the link and the auction has already ended. I saw you had won it so I read the thread already knowing part of the plot. I chuckled to myself knowing all would end well. --Jerry