man, a 200 year old coin shouldnt look this good

savoyspecial

Ok, its Darkside but we all love coins here, right?


nice huh? has me wanting to Make Offer.....somebody talk me down from the numismatic ledge here

greg

gecko109

Unless this type of coin is your "bag", dont buy the piece. Eventually the novelty will wear off. I experienced this 1st hand with an 1863 German coin that was in an NGC 67 holder. I thought "wow, a coin that old in that great of a condition!". I bought the coin for around $120....then when the novelty wore off and I realized I didnt have any real interest in German coins, I sold the coin at a small loss a few months later. Are you down off the ledge yet?

STONE

...oh, it should look that good, and I'm glad it does.

That is one gorgeous coin, and if I had unlimited funds I would probably buy it (notice how I said "unlimited"!!!).

adamlaneus

My, the guy on that coin looks smug. Or happy, or drunk? What is that expression? Goofy-riche?

lordmarcovan

I needed some Spanish Colonial gold for a prize in the last MD Forum "Virtual Treasure Hunt", so I bought a 1788 half escudo from that seller. The price was no bargain but it wasn't totally unrealistic, either, and the transaction went fine.

That is definitely a knockout.

I respectfully disagree with gecko109, even though his advice is sound. (Actually, I agree with what he said, but have different feelings on the issue).

I guess that's because the novelty on such a piece is unlikely to wear off, if you're anything like me and appreciate coins with some history to 'em. I would rather have something like that in MS65 than a Morgan dollar in MS68. (Well, I would take the MS68 Morgan dollar, sell it, and buy myself a bunch of cool old stuff like that.)

Some are susceptible to the power of The Dark Side. And powerful it is.

I succumbed to it at least a quarter century ago, and I'm a Darksider in the deepest depths of my soul.

PS- I can see why you're tempted, but we ARE talkin' about a healthy four-figure pricetag. You can get stuff just as old with just as much "bling" factor (200 year old proofs, even!) for less than $1G.

ColonialCoinUnion

<< <i>somebody talk me down from the numismatic ledge here

greg >>



If you want to be talked down off the ledge, I'll do my best: It's white as a ghost.

lordmarcovan

Case in point:

200 years old, rare, bigger than a silver dollar, NGC PR64 UCAM, and gilt copper, meaning it looked like a big ol' honkin' gold proof coin.

Cost me $900-ish, which is the most I've ever spent on a single coin, and I do rather regret selling it, even though it wasn't really a part of any of my sets. Coins like this stand alone.

(This small scan, which is all I have left of it, does not remotely do it justice.)



See? Less than a thousand bucks. You probably couldn't buy a gilt proof penny like that for three figures from a major dealer these days, but a halfpenny, maybe.

The Darkside offers lots of possibilities like this. I once bought some really cool (large, 5-franc) 1840s French patterns in ANACS PR63 for about $200 each. Loaded with eye appeal, and pretty scarce. Just try buying big US patterns in the low three figures!

ricko

There are extensive opportunities in darkside coins... and far more art.... just the art alone should make many numismatists go darkside...Cheers, RickO

Quarternut

I have been tempted in the past when I can buy things like this for a fraction of what the same type of US coin would cost...






Besides, these curculated in the US along side other US coins until 1857.

ElKevvo

That is a really nice coin...but way out of my range! I like the variety of the darkside coins and enjoy my collection without worrying about slabs and stuff like that too much...most of it is raw and a good portion of it I have picked up on my various travels.

K

zeebob

If it were from the Mexico mint, I'd be on my way to the bank today. What a GREAT piece.

coinsarefun

That is a very nice looking coin... Very nice!




Stefanie

Doogy

<< <i>There are extensive opportunities in darkside coins... and far more art.... just the art alone should make many numismatists go darkside...Cheers, RickO >>



that is what initially did it for me; there are far more artistic and beautifully designed darkside coins, than US coins.

Doogy

speaking of beautiful designs, two of my faves...........

FilthyBroke

I like it. I don't agree there to be a 'novelty' with this coin, either.

Just wondering about the price, is this reasonable or just a big number they stick out there. I have no idea on a coin graded this high. Is there a reference such as our Redbook for items like this?

kryptonitecomics

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<< <i>somebody talk me down from the numismatic ledge here

greg >>



If you want to be talked down off the ledge, I'll do my best: It's white as a ghost. >>



Yes....I would not own that coin if it was given to me...it would be sold to purchase something with some skin left on it

TypeCollector

<< <i>Unless this type of coin is your "bag", dont buy the piece. Eventually the novelty will wear off. I experienced this 1st hand with an 1863 German coin that was in an NGC 67 holder. I thought "wow, a coin that old in that great of a condition!". I bought the coin for around $120....then when the novelty wore off and I realized I didnt have any real interest in German coins, I sold the coin at a small loss a few months later. Are you down off the ledge yet? >>

Let's have real coins for real men - Pandas, anyone? Certainly no novelty here.

bidask

<< <i>Ok, its Darkside but we all love coins here, right?


nice huh? has me wanting to Make Offer.....somebody talk me down from the numismatic ledge here

greg >>

That's a nice coin and worth the bid.

Here's a nice Swiss shooting thaler.

Shamika

<< <i>Here's a nice Swiss shooting thaler.


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I absolutely love the toning!

Shamika

Shamika

<< <i>It's white as a ghost. >>

I was sort of thinking the same thing, but didn't want to say it.

TwoKopeiki

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<< <i>somebody talk me down from the numismatic ledge here

greg >>



If you want to be talked down off the ledge, I'll do my best: It's white as a ghost. >>





Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I like my Spanish Colonials nice and original



And same goes for MS examples, like this one (PCGS 63):

Coxe

Yes, a very attractive specimen. Older dates, like that, might be common as dirt even in higher grades from Europe, but colonial American (No. and So.) is a different story. Is it worth a price in the BIN asking territory though? I dunno. An equivalent colonial non-darkside piece (or darkside that circulated here) would be worth considerably more.