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What do you think the best potential return on investment is at this point in time?
Stocks (in particular GE) or precious metals (platinum $2066, gold $905, silver $17.42)

I read on the internet where Jeff Immelt purchased 115,000 shares of GE today between $30.59 and $30.66.
GE is trading around the low for the year at $30.21 and pays a halfway decent dividend compared to bank MM.

I'm trying to determine which offers the better ROI potential.

Any thoughts?

SoundPoint

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  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 18,074 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>What do you think the best potential return on investment is at this point in time?
    Stocks (in particular GE) or precious metals (platinum $2066, gold $905, silver $17.42)

    I read on the internet where Jeff Immelt purchased 115,000 shares of GE today between $30.59 and $30.66.
    GE is trading around the low for the year at $30.21 and pays a halfway decent dividend compared to bank MM.

    I'm trying to determine which offers the better ROI potential.

    Any thoughts?

    SoundPoint >>




    Jeff Immelt is selling products to Iran.....that should tell you which way to go. image
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,026 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Jeff Immelt is selling products to Iran.....that should tell you which way to go. image >>



    Is he breaking any laws?

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
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  • seatedcoinsseatedcoins Posts: 1,096


    << <i>Jeff Immelt is selling products to Iran.....that should tell you which way to go. image >>



    I saw an article on that, pretty disturbing stuff. Wish I had the link
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  • lathmachlathmach Posts: 4,720
    Buy the GE stock.
    Never invest in coins, and always remember that precious metals are a store of wealth, not an investment vehicle.

    Ray
  • RayboRaybo Posts: 5,342 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Whatever you decide to do, buy low and sell high.


    Ray
  • rgCoinGuyrgCoinGuy Posts: 7,478
    The stock is at a low, the PM's are near highs. Given that, this is a coin forum, probably not the best place to seek this type of advice.
    imageQuid pro quo. Yes or no?
  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 18,074 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Jeff Immelt is selling products to Iran.....that should tell you which way to go. image >>



    I saw an article on that, pretty disturbing stuff. Wish I had the link >>




    Try here
  • SoundPointSoundPoint Posts: 255 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>What do you think the best potential return on investment is at this point in time?
    Stocks (in particular GE) or precious metals (platinum $2066, gold $905, silver $17.42)

    I read on the internet where Jeff Immelt purchased 115,000 shares of GE today between $30.59 and $30.66.
    GE is trading around the low for the year at $30.21 and pays a halfway decent dividend compared to bank MM.

    I'm trying to determine which offers the better ROI potential.

    Any thoughts?

    SoundPoint >>




    Jeff Immelt is selling products to Iran.....that should tell you which way to go. image >>




    IRAN has sold oil to the US in the past . . . . What is your point?
    Middle East countries are friends one year and enemies the next.
    This is a world economy and more and more companies/countries are going global.
    Is this a good thing or bad? I don't know! I'm a very small investor.
    I'm just concerned about the ROI that affects me.

    So many of these countries are a major player in precious metals also.
    Am I going to stop investing in precious metals also?

    Like I say, I'm just interested in ROI - be it stocks or precious metals.

    SoundPoint
  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 18,074 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>What do you think the best potential return on investment is at this point in time?
    Stocks (in particular GE) or precious metals (platinum $2066, gold $905, silver $17.42)

    I read on the internet where Jeff Immelt purchased 115,000 shares of GE today between $30.59 and $30.66.
    GE is trading around the low for the year at $30.21 and pays a halfway decent dividend compared to bank MM.

    I'm trying to determine which offers the better ROI potential.

    Any thoughts?

    SoundPoint >>




    Jeff Immelt is selling products to Iran.....that should tell you which way to go. image >>




    IRAN has sold oil to the US in the past . . . . What is your point?
    Middle East countries are friends one year and enemies the next.
    This is a world economy and more and more companies/countries are going global.
    Is this a good thing or bad? I don't know! I'm a very small investor.
    I'm just concerned about the ROI that affects me.

    So many of these countries are a major player in precious metals also.
    Am I going to stop investing in precious metals also?

    Like I say, I'm just interested in ROI - be it stocks or precious metals.

    SoundPoint >>




    If a rogue country is selling IED's to kill American soldiers...you don't do business with it anymore....my simple little rule! image

  • CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,395 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For me this is a no-brainer assuming you are looking for a longer term investment.

    Buy the GE stock - it has a great track record and has great management.

    PM's on the other hand are very likely to tank later this year as the dollar strengthens. I sold all my PM's in March.

    “In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson

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  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 18,074 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>For me this is a no-brainer assuming you are looking for a longer term investment.

    Buy the GE stock - it has a great track record and has great management.

    PM's on the other hand are very likely to tank later this year as the dollar strengthens. I sold all my PM's in March. >>




    Management starts at the top.

    Jack Welsh is sorely missed.
  • SoundPointSoundPoint Posts: 255 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>For me this is a no-brainer assuming you are looking for a longer term investment.

    Buy the GE stock - it has a great track record and has great management.

    PM's on the other hand are very likely to tank later this year as the dollar strengthens. I sold all my PM's in March. >>




    Management starts at the top.

    Jack Welsh is sorely missed. >>



    image
    I agree - Management starts at the top. Too bad we don't have good managers at the top of our political system.

    Others sorely missed IMHO - Truman, Patton, Marshall, Bradley - People that knew how to get things accomplished.

    SoundPoint
  • percybpercyb Posts: 3,335 ✭✭✭✭
    I'm short GE. It's going the way of BAC, C, LEH, MER and anything related to finance.
    "Poets are the unacknowledged legislators of the world." PBShelley
  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 18,074 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>

    << <i>For me this is a no-brainer assuming you are looking for a longer term investment.

    Buy the GE stock - it has a great track record and has great management.

    PM's on the other hand are very likely to tank later this year as the dollar strengthens. I sold all my PM's in March. >>




    Management starts at the top.

    Jack Welsh is sorely missed. >>



    image
    I agree - Management starts at the top. Too bad we don't have good managers at the top of our political system.

    Others sorely missed IMHO - Truman, Patton, Marshall, Bradley - People that knew how to get things accomplished.

    SoundPoint >>



    imageimage

    Good choices for leaders SoundPoint.........our political system should be run by the Jack Welsh's of the world.

    Instead we elect power hungry zealots(some dumber than boxes of rocks...ie. Maxine Waters, Dick Durbin, Nancy P.......and on and on).

  • SoundPointSoundPoint Posts: 255 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm short GE. It's going the way of BAC, C, LEH, MER and anything related to finance. >>



    Considering the fact that GE is already down 16.05% for the year,
    I think shorting this stock would be a very "gutsy" move at the current stock price.

    Good Luck!
    SoundPoint
  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 18,074 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Oh, this is just great..........CEO Immelt, you are a scumbag!!!!!

    Read the last line of this just off the press PR and think about the old General Electric and Ronald Reagan.....image


    CHICAGO, May 29 (Reuters) - General Electric Co (GE.N: Quote, Profile, Research) said on Thursday that its GE Energy unit had won $500 million in contracts to supply gas turbines and generators to various power plants owned by the Saudi Electricity Co.

    SEC is the leading electricity supplier in Saudi Arabia, where GE says demand for power is growing 8 percent annually.

    Saudi Arabia is one the fastest-growing markets for GE's power and water, transportation and health-care products.

    GE, the second-largest U.S. company by market capitalization, is also a member of one of four groups vying for a 30-year, $5 billion contract to build and operate a 1,100 km (685 mile) railway across the Saudi desert.

    The project is one of many that Saudi Arabia is engaged in to develop its infrastructure, tourism and industry as it enjoys an economic boom powered by a quadrupling of oil prices in the past six years.


    Reuters Link
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,689 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't mean to go off topic, but if I bought a burial plot, do I have to pay property taxes on it ?
  • lathmachlathmach Posts: 4,720


    << <i>I don't mean to go off topic, but if I bought a burial plot, do I have to pay property taxes on it ? >>




    No.

    Ray
  • Isn't half of GE's business in the financial sector? Stay away. Far away. IMHO. 4 percent dividend isn't that great either (inflation will eat that up in a nanosecond). You can get much better returns on an energy trust.
  • CasmanCasman Posts: 3,935 ✭✭
    Um, lets see GE Price $30.660000.....My average purchase price $36.706351, compared to say Gold $1800 an ounce, and I'd go metals, but I make my own sell prices instead of riding ups and downs....
  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,151 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Um, lets see GE Price $30.660000.....My average purchase price $36.706351, compared to say Gold $1800 an ounce, and I'd go metals, but I make my own sell prices instead of riding ups and downs.... >>



    Did you mean to say Platinum instead of Gold?image
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  • CasmanCasman Posts: 3,935 ✭✭
    Nope, ya gotta make your own sell prices when nothing is happening, kinda like the other thread re: Panda pricing...image


    This one... link


    Unless of course a person has unlimited funds...

    And kinda cool and totally unrelated but while I was out at the hospital having our second baby girl my associates decided we are jumping back into the world of Boxing, we stopped a few years ago after our heavyweight lost a world title shot, and then went off to prison. We set up local shows seating around 800 and these guys beat the H outta each other and even some chick fights....so it looks like more fun for the summer....
  • fcfc Posts: 12,796 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>What do you think the best potential return on investment is at this point in time?
    Stocks (in particular GE) or precious metals (platinum $2066, gold $905, silver $17.42)

    I read on the internet where Jeff Immelt purchased 115,000 shares of GE today between $30.59 and $30.66.
    GE is trading around the low for the year at $30.21 and pays a halfway decent dividend compared to bank MM.

    I'm trying to determine which offers the better ROI potential.

    Any thoughts?

    SoundPoint >>




    Jeff Immelt is selling products to Iran.....that should tell you which way to go. image >>




    IRAN has sold oil to the US in the past . . . . What is your point?
    Middle East countries are friends one year and enemies the next.
    This is a world economy and more and more companies/countries are going global.
    Is this a good thing or bad? I don't know! I'm a very small investor.
    I'm just concerned about the ROI that affects me.

    So many of these countries are a major player in precious metals also.
    Am I going to stop investing in precious metals also?

    Like I say, I'm just interested in ROI - be it stocks or precious metals.

    SoundPoint >>




    If a rogue country is selling IED's to kill American soldiers...you don't do business with it anymore....my simple little rule! image >>



    ugh. let me guess you do not know who the 5 biggest by country
    arms dealers are in the world? you know how much stuff we produce
    that is used to kill others? I am not talking US soldiers using it but
    african nations killing each other. South America, etc..

    ignorance is bliss.
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,322 ✭✭✭✭✭
    GE is probably riddled with $$ billions in OTC derivatives just like any other major player, bank, brokerage, auto lender, etc. Doesn't matter how they do in the selling of physical goods when their financial side is probably loaded with low quality derivatives.

    Over the next 2-3 years it's a no brainer for me..........silver and gold. The GE stock like most others in the financial and manufacturing side
    will have a tough row to follow during an economic downturn.

    GOLD and SILVER........ie real and honest money and averaging 20% per year over the past 7 years....and it will continue. I don't expect GE or anything like GE to perform like that. And because it's honest money it can't go to zero like stocks, bonds, and fiat can.

    roadrunner
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    War is a human devotion.... always has been.. and will be for the foreseeable future. That is simple fact. As long as it continues, people will profit and people will die... and it will not change. Cheers, RickO
  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 18,074 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>What do you think the best potential return on investment is at this point in time?
    Stocks (in particular GE) or precious metals (platinum $2066, gold $905, silver $17.42)

    I read on the internet where Jeff Immelt purchased 115,000 shares of GE today between $30.59 and $30.66.
    GE is trading around the low for the year at $30.21 and pays a halfway decent dividend compared to bank MM.

    I'm trying to determine which offers the better ROI potential.

    Any thoughts?

    SoundPoint >>




    Jeff Immelt is selling products to Iran.....that should tell you which way to go. image >>




    IRAN has sold oil to the US in the past . . . . What is your point?
    Middle East countries are friends one year and enemies the next.
    This is a world economy and more and more companies/countries are going global.
    Is this a good thing or bad? I don't know! I'm a very small investor.
    I'm just concerned about the ROI that affects me.

    So many of these countries are a major player in precious metals also.
    Am I going to stop investing in precious metals also?

    Like I say, I'm just interested in ROI - be it stocks or precious metals.

    SoundPoint >>




    If a rogue country is selling IED's to kill American soldiers...you don't do business with it anymore....my simple little rule! image >>



    ugh. let me guess you do not know who the 5 biggest by country
    arms dealers are in the world? you know how much stuff we produce
    that is used to kill others? I am not talking US soldiers using it but
    african nations killing each other. South America, etc..

    ignorance is bliss. >>



    Why don't you enlighten an ignorant guy.
  • erroiderroid Posts: 795
    I don't like having to choose one or the other, so I own both; buy low, sell high.
    John G Bradley II
  • vplitevplite Posts: 1,385 ✭✭✭
    It's easy to make money in the stock market. Buy low, and when it goes up, sell it.

    What if it doesn't go up?

    Don't buy it. image

    Actually I bought some GE myself this week. It's pretty much like a mutual fund paying a 4% dividend. Maybe a little more exposure to financial problems than would be preferred, but that exposure has dragged it down, and might provide a bounce.
    The Golden Rule: Those with the gold make the rules.
  • fcfc Posts: 12,796 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>What do you think the best potential return on investment is at this point in time?
    Stocks (in particular GE) or precious metals (platinum $2066, gold $905, silver $17.42)

    I read on the internet where Jeff Immelt purchased 115,000 shares of GE today between $30.59 and $30.66.
    GE is trading around the low for the year at $30.21 and pays a halfway decent dividend compared to bank MM.

    I'm trying to determine which offers the better ROI potential.

    Any thoughts?

    SoundPoint >>




    Jeff Immelt is selling products to Iran.....that should tell you which way to go. image >>




    IRAN has sold oil to the US in the past . . . . What is your point?
    Middle East countries are friends one year and enemies the next.
    This is a world economy and more and more companies/countries are going global.
    Is this a good thing or bad? I don't know! I'm a very small investor.
    I'm just concerned about the ROI that affects me.

    So many of these countries are a major player in precious metals also.
    Am I going to stop investing in precious metals also?

    Like I say, I'm just interested in ROI - be it stocks or precious metals.

    SoundPoint >>




    If a rogue country is selling IED's to kill American soldiers...you don't do business with it anymore....my simple little rule! image >>



    ugh. let me guess you do not know who the 5 biggest by country
    arms dealers are in the world? you know how much stuff we produce
    that is used to kill others? I am not talking US soldiers using it but
    african nations killing each other. South America, etc..

    ignorance is bliss. >>



    Why don't you enlighten an ignorant guy. >>




    sure thing. this is an eye opener.

    ""Last year [2000] the U.S. controlled half of the developing world’s arms market…. This dominance of the global arms market is not something in which the American public or policy makers should take pride in. The U.S. routinely sells weapons to undemocratic regimes and gross human rights abusers.""

    From 1998 to 2001, the USA, the UK, and France earned more income from arms sales to developing countries than they gave in aid.

    The arms industry is unlike any other. It operates without regulation. It suffers from widespread corruption and bribes. And it makes its profits on the back of machines designed to kill and maim human beings.

    So who profits most from this murderous trade? The five permanent members of the UN Security Council—the USA, UK, France, Russia, and China. Together, they are responsible for eighty eight per cent of reported conventional arms exports.

    “We can’t have it both ways. We can’t be both the world’s leading champion of peace and the world’s leading supplier of arms.” Former US President Jimmy Carter, presidential campaign, 1976


    http://www.globalissues.org/Geopolitics/ArmsTrade/BigBusiness.asp

    lets face it. our country is as bad as any other. nationalism makes
    us blind to it. we topple govts, sell arms, and just as corrupt as any
    other human being can be.

    we see it in the news every week. every single fricking week. but
    most ignore it. as long as you do not upset their apple cart what do
    they care?
  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 18,074 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>What do you think the best potential return on investment is at this point in time?
    Stocks (in particular GE) or precious metals (platinum $2066, gold $905, silver $17.42)

    I read on the internet where Jeff Immelt purchased 115,000 shares of GE today between $30.59 and $30.66.
    GE is trading around the low for the year at $30.21 and pays a halfway decent dividend compared to bank MM.

    I'm trying to determine which offers the better ROI potential.

    Any thoughts?

    SoundPoint >>




    Jeff Immelt is selling products to Iran.....that should tell you which way to go. image >>




    IRAN has sold oil to the US in the past . . . . What is your point?
    Middle East countries are friends one year and enemies the next.
    This is a world economy and more and more companies/countries are going global.
    Is this a good thing or bad? I don't know! I'm a very small investor.
    I'm just concerned about the ROI that affects me.

    So many of these countries are a major player in precious metals also.
    Am I going to stop investing in precious metals also?

    Like I say, I'm just interested in ROI - be it stocks or precious metals.

    SoundPoint >>




    If a rogue country is selling IED's to kill American soldiers...you don't do business with it anymore....my simple little rule! image >>



    ugh. let me guess you do not know who the 5 biggest by country
    arms dealers are in the world? you know how much stuff we produce
    that is used to kill others? I am not talking US soldiers using it but
    african nations killing each other. South America, etc..

    ignorance is bliss. >>



    Why don't you enlighten an ignorant guy. >>




    sure thing. this is an eye opener.

    ""Last year [2000] the U.S. controlled half of the developing world’s arms market…. This dominance of the global arms market is not something in which the American public or policy makers should take pride in. The U.S. routinely sells weapons to undemocratic regimes and gross human rights abusers.""

    From 1998 to 2001, the USA, the UK, and France earned more income from arms sales to developing countries than they gave in aid.

    The arms industry is unlike any other. It operates without regulation. It suffers from widespread corruption and bribes. And it makes its profits on the back of machines designed to kill and maim human beings.

    So who profits most from this murderous trade? The five permanent members of the UN Security Council—the USA, UK, France, Russia, and China. Together, they are responsible for eighty eight per cent of reported conventional arms exports.

    “We can’t have it both ways. We can’t be both the world’s leading champion of peace and the world’s leading supplier of arms.” Former US President Jimmy Carter, presidential campaign, 1976


    http://www.globalissues.org/Geopolitics/ArmsTrade/BigBusiness.asp >>



    fc

    I'll check out this Website, I appreciate your civil reply.

    I do have a serious problem with anything Jimmy Carter has to say, the man repulses me.

    If he would just stick to Habitat for Humanity I'd be OK.

    I still have a problem with Immelt....at least he stopped sales to Iran in 2005.

    Two wrongs don't make a right.

    If in fact we are supplying mass quantities of arms to 3rd world countries, it does not justify IED parts sold to Iran by GE.

    And yes, I will say I do have some ignorance on this topic.


    Regards

    GB


    ps. Are you going to the Baltimore show??? image

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