Good points, Fes. I have the person's registered info and intend to call him. If he proves to be legit I'll send him an apology, an explanation and perhaps, a freebie.
As it stands I let some guy with low feedback through.
He hasn't yet been heard from yet.
Most everyone else has already paid and their items are ready to go.
<< <i><< Maybe this bidder should have asked the seller a question! >>
What was this bidder supposed to say: "Are you one of those sellers who will refuse to honor my bid because I don't win enough auctions for your taste?" >>
This is one of the more ridiculous things I've heard. If I was the bidder, I'd be upset at you canceling my bid for no real (good) reason. I don't even know my winning percentage, but I'd bet it's not all that high. Every so often I will bid early on items I know I can't pay market price for and just let it go for a few days and hope no one else sees it. So what, I set a limit and live or die with it.
I think Griv hit it on the head. It's downright silly.
Always took candy from strangers Didn't wanna get me no trade Never want to be like papa Working for the boss every night and day --"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)
<< <i>Good points, Fes. I have the person's registered info and intend to call him. If he proves to be legit I'll send him an apology, an explanation and perhaps, a freebie.
As it stands I let some guy with low feedback through.
He hasn't yet been heard from yet.
Most everyone else has already paid and their items are ready to go. >>
Are you talking about auctions that ended last night? If so, big deal. You expect everyone to pay within an hour of the end of an auction? I'm not sure I'm understanding your selling techniques here. You certainly have the right to do as you wish, but it sounds like ebay isn't the best place for you to sell your coins.
What did you have to lose? You don't send anything until it's paid for, right? Concerned about PayPal and returns? Don't accept PP.
There's a bidder on tokens and medals that only puts in very low bids. I'm not sure I've ever seen him actually win anything. Let him bid away on my stuff. That's fine by me. If he wins, I'm sure he'll pay. If he doesn't, I won't ship.
It never occured to me to look at how many items I've bid on that I haven't won. WTF? If I were blocked from an ebay seller, I really wouldn't give a sh$t. I'd shop some where else. FY.
"Poets are the unacknowledged legislators of the world." PBShelley
Situation has been resolved amicably. I spoke with the guy personally and explained "Why" I did, what I did, when I did.
With approximately a half hour left to go in the auction a bidder emerged from the same general area that I had JUST received payment from a bidder that had taken 3 weeks to pay for an eBay item.
When I saw his "activity" (checking my bidders) and how long he's been a member (2yrs - One win) .... I found it strange that no sooner did I finally get paid that this mysterious bidder shows up!
Thinking it just may be one & the same person .... NOT wanting to endure another 3 weeks of needless BS, was the reason for the cancellation.
I blocked him for rather obvious reasons. I did not want to cancel his bids only to have him turn right around and bid again.
I explained the entire situation to the guy, who totally understands and have removed him from the Blocked Bidder list. He is now more than Welcome to take part in any future Auction.
I offered him a similar coin for the inconvenience & misunderstanding ... and it now appears I have another solid customer.
Communication works Wonders. There you have it. The WHOLE situation and all is well.
I appreciate all of your input but given the circumstances, if necessary under the same conditions, I'd have to do it again. Like I said in the OP, I REALLY hated to do this but felt I HAD to.
I was curious to know what you guys would have done had you been me, under the same set of circumstances.
Then from that very same general location, determined by running an advanced search for member contact info once suspicion was duly raised, comes this member with an unsetlling History.
Not wanting to endure any more of the same, thinking it could very well be the same person/ different ID is why I HAD to.
"With approximately a half hour left to go in the auction a bidder emerged from the same general area that I had JUST received payment from a bidder that had taken 3 weeks to pay for an eBay item.
"Communication works Wonders."
I don't recall reading the 1st quote above in this thread, might've cleared up some of the questioning earlier. I didn't get at all while you felt you had to do this until reading this. Hadn't walked in your shoes. Fun read though, I give it the thread of the day award.
I spoke with the guy personally and explained "Why" I did, what I did, when I did.
I have to ask how you were able to do this in such a timely manner.
Noting the times of your posts and their tone, I find your claim of amicable resolution highly dubious, to say the least. How were you able to get his phone number and speak with him in 2 hours time? Its not like you had his contact information from a completed sale.
I for one, would have never instantly become another of your so called “solid customers” after being treated so shabbily and doubt anyone would.
By your tone I have trouble believing you would wait 3 days let alone 3 weeks for payment before filing an ebay dispute.
<< <i> I was curious to know what you guys would have done had you been me, under the same set of circumstances.
q]
I never bother to investigate or research my buyers so I would have never known the facts in order to have to act one way or the other. Three weeks to pay also doesn't bother me. If someone took three weeks to pay it wouldn't even get my attention. If they don't pay at all, that would ultimately get my attention after 4-5 weeks.
that site is a joke. I have bid and won plenty of auctions this month. When I enter my ebay name--cinman14 and do a 30 day history it shows 1 item bought and that was the sac paperweight. If thats all I have bought then the wife should get off my back.. Maybe I will just let her look at this site and she won't think I'm buying anything
While he was high bidder, the seller having the right to know who he is dealing with (which WAS the issue) simply does an Advanced Search on eBay and clicks Contact information then enters the potential buyer's eBay ID and the item #. Ebay emails BOTH parties, giving both each other's registered eBay info.
Anytime you have a questionable high bidder all you do is as stated and both willl be sent respective info.
Had it not been so late I would have called him early this morning when the listing was winding down.
I had to make a decision and made it. With what I was given by eBay last night, I called the gentleman this afternoon, brought this to his attention and cleared up the entire matter and explained why things happened as they did. He had absolutely no problem with this at all, is now no longer blocked and free to bid.
Understand that a customer had made no effort to pay or communicate with me regarding a listing he won 03/07. I waited 11 full calendar days. Nothing. On the 11th day I opened a UPI/ NPB dispute to obtain a fvf credit along with relist. He then waited another 10 days before ultimately paying.
The bidder in question last night was from the same area. You know the rest and perhaps now comprehend why suspicions were roused in light of length of registered membership and items won.
I did what I had to and it is finished. All is taken care of and that is that!
<< <i>With approximately a half hour left to go in the auction a bidder emerged from the same general area that I had JUST received payment from a bidder that had taken 3 weeks to pay for an eBay item.
When I saw his "activity" (checking my bidders) and how long he's been a member (2yrs - One win) .... I found it strange that no sooner did I finally get paid that this mysterious bidder shows up!
Thinking it just may be one & the same person .... NOT wanting to endure another 3 weeks of needless BS, was the reason for the cancellation. >>
Strange that all this new info is just now emerging.
I guess if I bid on one of your auctions I'd be banned as well. But if you are a micro-managing E-Bayer who has to run each bidder through a battery of "feel right tests" I doubt I'd want to buy from you anyways. So thank you for exposing your selling habits since it makes it easier to know who to avoid.
I will bid on something up to the limit I'm willing to spend and subsequently I don't win a lot because I'm looking for bargains. However, ask anyone who has ever dealt with me either on E-Bay, in person or other online sale and you'll find they are able to take my money to the bank regardless of my low win percentage.
Maybe he's just a cheap-o like me. I think I bid on about 20 of your auctions before I finally won one over the last few years (A cheezy 1971 Ike set, but that was my birth year, and it looked cool). In fact, I think I have about 10 coin purchases, with maybe 500 bids in the last 2 years. The only people I usually bid on are forum members I've added to my favorite list, usually through BST links. I don't often bid very strong, but now and then I get lucky. Seldom do I see an item that I put in that nuclear last second bid, I'm usually the cheap-o in the middle who bid $25 when it ended at $40, but I get to be the high bidder through days 1-5 of a 7 day auction
I can see if you were bidding and saw this guy with that type of activity with only a specific seller making you think he was shilling, but I don't see an issue with him low-balling your auctions, I think most of us are guilty of that.
I don't care if they have never won a thing in their entire bidding history. As long as they abide by my terms of service, I'd welcome bids from anyone!
<< <i>Boom, have you been drinking that damn fermented swamp water again?? >>
Hey, didn't he wade through diseased waters and bloating bodies to give out the charity gifts a while back? When members asked about the receipts for money given, his Wife took them. Give the guy a break, I believe his wife died. WAIT, she then came back to life. Hahahaha
Please... Save The Stories, Just Answer My Questions, And Tell Me How Much!!!!!
<< <i>With approximately a half hour left to go in the auction a bidder emerged from the same general area that I had JUST received payment from a bidder that had taken 3 weeks to pay for an eBay item.
When I saw his "activity" (checking my bidders) and how long he's been a member (2yrs - One win) .... I found it strange that no sooner did I finally get paid that this mysterious bidder shows up!
Thinking it just may be one & the same person .... NOT wanting to endure another 3 weeks of needless BS, was the reason for the cancellation. >>
Strange that all this new info is just now emerging.
Russ, NCNE >>
I was thinking the same thing, why not sate this in the first post and avoid 90% of the reverse comments.
<< <i>With approximately a half hour left to go in the auction a bidder emerged from the same general area that I had JUST received payment from a bidder that had taken 3 weeks to pay for an eBay item.
When I saw his "activity" (checking my bidders) and how long he's been a member (2yrs - One win) .... I found it strange that no sooner did I finally get paid that this mysterious bidder shows up!
Thinking it just may be one & the same person .... NOT wanting to endure another 3 weeks of needless BS, was the reason for the cancellation. >>
Strange that all this new info is just now emerging.
Russ, NCNE >>
I was thinking the same thing, why not sate this in the first post and avoid 90% of the reverse comments. >>
Does it really make a difference? There are a lot of bidders in the Chicagoland area, for example. Guess we would get clumped together. Hope no one takes too long to pay. It'll wipe out 10 million potential bidders.
Comments
As it stands I let some guy with low feedback through.
He hasn't yet been heard from yet.
Most everyone else has already paid and their items are ready to go.
<< <i><< Maybe this bidder should have asked the seller a question! >>
What was this bidder supposed to say: "Are you one of those sellers who will refuse to honor my bid because I don't win enough auctions for your taste?" >>
Russ, NCNE
"Everything is on its way to somewhere. Everything." - George Malley, Phenomenon
http://www.american-legacy-coins.com
I think Griv hit it on the head. It's downright silly.
commoncents123, JrGMan2004, Coll3ctor (2), Dabigkahuna, BAJJERFAN, Boom, GRANDAM, newsman, cohodk, kklambo, seateddime, ajia, mirabela, Weather11am, keepdachange, gsa1fan, cone10
-------------------------
Didn't wanna get me no trade
Never want to be like papa
Working for the boss every night and day
--"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)
<< <i>Good points, Fes. I have the person's registered info and intend to call him. If he proves to be legit I'll send him an apology, an explanation and perhaps, a freebie.
As it stands I let some guy with low feedback through.
He hasn't yet been heard from yet.
Most everyone else has already paid and their items are ready to go. >>
Are you talking about auctions that ended last night? If so, big deal. You expect everyone to pay within an hour of the end of an auction? I'm not sure I'm understanding your selling techniques here. You certainly have the right to do as you wish, but it sounds like ebay isn't the best place for you to sell your coins.
What did you have to lose? You don't send anything until it's paid for, right? Concerned about PayPal and returns? Don't accept PP.
There's a bidder on tokens and medals that only puts in very low bids. I'm not sure I've ever seen him actually win anything. Let him bid away on my stuff. That's fine by me. If he wins, I'm sure he'll pay. If he doesn't, I won't ship.
Web: www.tonyharmer.org
With approximately a half hour left to go in the auction a bidder emerged from the same general area that I had JUST received payment from a bidder that had taken 3 weeks to pay for an eBay item.
When I saw his "activity" (checking my bidders) and how long he's been a member (2yrs - One win) .... I found it strange that no sooner did I finally get paid that this mysterious bidder shows up!
Thinking it just may be one & the same person .... NOT wanting to endure another 3 weeks of needless BS, was the reason for the cancellation.
I blocked him for rather obvious reasons. I did not want to cancel his bids only to have him turn right around and bid again.
I explained the entire situation to the guy, who totally understands and have removed him from the Blocked Bidder list. He is now more than Welcome to take part in any future Auction.
I offered him a similar coin for the inconvenience & misunderstanding ... and it now appears I have another solid customer.
Communication works Wonders. There you have it. The WHOLE situation and all is well.
I appreciate all of your input but given the circumstances, if necessary under the same conditions, I'd have to do it again. Like I said in the OP, I REALLY hated to do this but felt I HAD to.
I was curious to know what you guys would have done had you been me, under the same set of circumstances.
That's that!
Then from that very same general location, determined by running an advanced search for member contact info once suspicion was duly raised, comes this member with an unsetlling History.
Not wanting to endure any more of the same, thinking it could very well be the same person/ different ID is why I HAD to.
I was not going thru that stuff Twice!
"Communication works Wonders."
I don't recall reading the 1st quote above in this thread, might've cleared up some of the questioning earlier. I didn't get at all while you felt you had to do this until reading this. Hadn't walked in your shoes. Fun read though, I give it the thread of the day award.
"Everything is on its way to somewhere. Everything." - George Malley, Phenomenon
http://www.american-legacy-coins.com
or having a certain # of negatives within the same time frame. Anyone is Welcome to take part.
This was solely a judgement call and I suppose the timing of how everything went down is what caused me to
over-react as I did.
I had a hunch and I was wrong. I'm glad I was able to resolve the situation.
I spoke with the guy personally and explained "Why" I did, what I did, when I did.
I have to ask how you were able to do this in such a timely manner.
Noting the times of your posts and their tone, I find your claim of amicable resolution highly dubious, to say the least. How were you able to get his phone number and speak with him in 2 hours time? Its not like you had his contact information from a completed sale.
I for one, would have never instantly become another of your so called “solid customers” after being treated so shabbily and doubt anyone would.
By your tone I have trouble believing you would wait 3 days let alone 3 weeks for payment before filing an ebay dispute.
that blocking is somewhat harsh as the
bidder has not done anything wrong or illegal.
Having said that, a seller must go with their
instincts and if they feel that something may be
amiss, then they have the right to take protective
action. Experienced sellers develop a 6th sense
when it comes to potential problems and I would not
second guess their actions.
Camelot
``https://ebay.us/m/KxolR5
2 Cam-Slams!
1 Russ POTD!
<< <i>
I was curious to know what you guys would have done had you been me, under the same set of circumstances.
q]
I never bother to investigate or research my buyers so I would have never known the facts in order to have to act one way or the other. Three weeks to pay also doesn't bother me. If someone took three weeks to pay it wouldn't even get my attention. If they don't pay at all, that would ultimately get my attention after 4-5 weeks.
WH
do a 30 day history it shows 1 item bought and that was the sac paperweight. If thats all I have bought then
the wife should get off my back..
Maybe I will just let her look at this site and she won't think I'm buying anything
This is just dumb
.
Anytime you have a questionable high bidder all you do is as stated and both willl be sent respective info.
Had it not been so late I would have called him early this morning when the listing was winding down.
I had to make a decision and made it. With what I was given by eBay last night, I called the gentleman this afternoon, brought this to his attention and cleared up the entire matter and explained why things happened as they did. He had absolutely no problem with this at all, is now no longer blocked and free to bid.
Understand that a customer had made no effort to pay or communicate with me regarding a listing he won 03/07. I waited 11 full calendar days. Nothing. On the 11th day I opened a UPI/ NPB dispute to obtain a fvf credit along with relist. He then waited another 10 days before ultimately paying.
The bidder in question last night was from the same area. You know the rest and perhaps now comprehend why suspicions were roused in light of length of registered membership and items won.
I did what I had to and it is finished. All is taken care of and that is that!
Thank you for your opinions.
<< <i>With approximately a half hour left to go in the auction a bidder emerged from the same general area that I had JUST received payment from a bidder that had taken 3 weeks to pay for an eBay item.
When I saw his "activity" (checking my bidders) and how long he's been a member (2yrs - One win) .... I found it strange that no sooner did I finally get paid that this mysterious bidder shows up!
Thinking it just may be one & the same person .... NOT wanting to endure another 3 weeks of needless BS, was the reason for the cancellation. >>
Strange that all this new info is just now emerging.
Russ, NCNE
oh yeah, and I've won every ebay item I ever bid on. My percentage is 100%
Click on this link to see my ebay listings.
I will bid on something up to the limit I'm willing to spend and subsequently I don't win a lot because I'm looking for bargains. However, ask anyone who has ever dealt with me either on E-Bay, in person or other online sale and you'll find they are able to take my money to the bank regardless of my low win percentage.
I can see if you were bidding and saw this guy with that type of activity with only a specific seller making you think he was shilling, but I don't see an issue with him low-balling your auctions, I think most of us are guilty of that.
To each their own.
"You Suck Award" - February, 2015
Discoverer of 1919 Mercury Dime DDO - FS-101
Are we discriminatory
Jim
Menomonee Falls Wisconsin USA
http://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistr...dset.aspx?s=68269&ac=1">Musky 1861 Mint Set
<< <i>There are many great sellers on Ebay. Boom is not one of them. Maybe you should just make all of your auctions "pre-approved" bidders only. >>
Perhaps Mr Boom needs an IRS inquiry into his on-line sales / non-reported income.
Steve
<< <i>I neither NEED nor WANT anyone driving up prices.
Let coins run on their own merit. >>
ROFL ROFL ROFL
<< <i>Boom, have you been drinking that damn fermented swamp water again?? >>
Hey, didn't he wade through diseased waters and bloating bodies to give out the charity gifts a while back? When members asked about the receipts for money given, his Wife took them. Give the guy a break, I believe his wife died. WAIT, she then came back to life. Hahahaha
now we're heating up!
<< <i>+1 Cause I read it all!
I don't know.... it looked more like a "sellercide"......
<< <i>
<< <i>With approximately a half hour left to go in the auction a bidder emerged from the same general area that I had JUST received payment from a bidder that had taken 3 weeks to pay for an eBay item.
When I saw his "activity" (checking my bidders) and how long he's been a member (2yrs - One win) .... I found it strange that no sooner did I finally get paid that this mysterious bidder shows up!
Thinking it just may be one & the same person .... NOT wanting to endure another 3 weeks of needless BS, was the reason for the cancellation. >>
Strange that all this new info is just now emerging.
Russ, NCNE >>
I was thinking the same thing, why not sate this in the first post and avoid 90% of the reverse comments.
<< <i>
<< <i>
<< <i>With approximately a half hour left to go in the auction a bidder emerged from the same general area that I had JUST received payment from a bidder that had taken 3 weeks to pay for an eBay item.
When I saw his "activity" (checking my bidders) and how long he's been a member (2yrs - One win) .... I found it strange that no sooner did I finally get paid that this mysterious bidder shows up!
Thinking it just may be one & the same person .... NOT wanting to endure another 3 weeks of needless BS, was the reason for the cancellation. >>
Strange that all this new info is just now emerging.
Russ, NCNE >>
I was thinking the same thing, why not sate this in the first post and avoid 90% of the reverse comments. >>
Does it really make a difference? There are a lot of bidders in the Chicagoland area, for example. Guess we would get clumped together. Hope no one takes too long to pay. It'll wipe out 10 million potential bidders.