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Grade Revealed: 1892 Morgan Dollar -- PCGS AU-58

StuartStuart Posts: 9,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
Welcome to this latest episode of the grading reality show Guess the Grade. image

I invite you to guess the grade of this 1892 Morgan Dollar by voting in the poll, and also encourage you to please post your grading criteria, comments and observations to keep this thread both lively and active. image

1892 PCGS AU-58 Morgan Dollar
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Stuart

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  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭
    i said 64. frosty!
  • blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,935 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I went 64 on this. Looks pretty dang nice with just a few marks.
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  • PlacidPlacid Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭
    I voted but forgot what I picked imageimage
    I think I picked ms62.
  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For the Saturday Morning Shift...

    Stuart

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  • TennesseeDaveTennesseeDave Posts: 4,797 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like a solid 64 to me.Nice coin.
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  • TorinoCobra71TorinoCobra71 Posts: 8,054 ✭✭✭
    64, hit on the lower cheek keeps it out of a 5 holder.

    TC71


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  • HighReliefHighRelief Posts: 3,711 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>64, hit on the lower cheek keeps it out of a 5 holder.

    TC71 >>



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  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,210 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm going against the grain ... that appears to be a superior AU58 coin.

    There appears to be very light rub on the cap, chin, hair and eagles breast ... some touches that subdue the luster, and more telling, it appears to have the kind of light circulation field and device scruff (in several areas) that is associated with super sliders.


    It's an outstanding looking coin! image and I'm curious of the grade you think and waht PCGS gave her

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  • STONESTONE Posts: 15,275
    64 in my book.
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS63... Cheers, RickO
  • torn between au58 and ms63 but will vote 63 (possibly 64) due to it is a nice coin Stuart as usualimage
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  • anablepanablep Posts: 5,158 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Stuart, as usual a great looking piece. You sure know how to pick winners.

    I'm going to go with 63 on this. The hit on the cheek and field chatter on the reverse are reasons enough. Could it 64? Maybe. More likely a 63 due to subdued luster (going by images alone).

    Nice coin.
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  • 58
  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For the Sunday morning crowd -- I'll post the grade this evening...

    Stuart

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  • robecrobec Posts: 6,804 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll say 64, but I wouldn't be surprised at a 63 due to a few hits by the eagle's wing and the hair appears to be a little worn above lady Liberty's ear. Of course that could be due to either a scanned image or the amount of lighting on the coin.
  • metalmeistermetalmeister Posts: 4,592 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Based on the photo, I am going with MS64 too.
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  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,275 ✭✭✭
    Strike limited MS64.
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  • DRUNNERDRUNNER Posts: 3,889 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like good original surfaces.

    64.

    Drunner
  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks to all those who took the time to vote in the poll, and also to post their observations and comments.

    Stuart

    Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal

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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,674 ✭✭✭✭✭
    62

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  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,074 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS-62. Some of those hits appear fairly deep, and the luster appears somewhat muted.
  • bsshog40bsshog40 Posts: 3,934 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm going with MS64 here. I think the small gouges on the Obv & Rev might keep it from 65. Over-all looks like a nice Morgan with a slight weak strike on the Eagle's Breast feathers.
  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The subject 1892 Morgan Dollar of this thread is graded PCGS AU-58

    Grade Revealed: 1892 PCGS AU-58 Morgan Dollar
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    Stuart

    Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal

    "Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
  • PlacidPlacid Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭
    Thought maybe pcgs gave it 62 as a market grade.
    Very nice coin for a au58 price.
  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,509 ✭✭✭✭✭
    so Stuart, did PCGS get it right? Can you see a luster break or two?
  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Thought maybe pcgs gave it 62 as a market grade. >>

    That's not Stuart's purchasing M.O., though.
  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
    << so Stuart, did PCGS get it right? Can you see a luster break or two? >>

    Barndog: First, thanks complimenting my grading skills by asking if I think that PCGS correctly graded the coin. image

    In reply to your above-quoted question, in my opinion this is one of those ultimate super-sliders which grades somewhere in between AU-59.5 and MS-62 depending on how the grader is doing on the specific day that they grade this coin.

    When rotating the coin under proper illumination, there may be a very slight amount of perceptible dulling of luster over the eagle's breast and drumsticks, however it's a very close call either way. I've seen worse MS-63's.

    There are also very few contact marks or hairline scratches in the unprotected areas of the coin fields, which are typical of AU-58's. She's a real beauty!! image

    Stuart

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  • HighReliefHighRelief Posts: 3,711 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sweet looking Morgan for grading AU58.

    The 92-P is known for a weak strike over the ear and I do not see any rub over the eagles breast, must be the picture.

    One of the nicest sliders I have ever seen image
  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,210 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image very nice Stuart, and I also appreciate your feeling on the coin. I'm glad I could see it for what it is ... and although I haven't seen it in hand, I agree that I have seen worse 63's.


    “We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”

    Todd - BHNC #242
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    I vote AU 58..............Do I win anything?

    Nice coin btw


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • TennesseeDaveTennesseeDave Posts: 4,797 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I had a feeling that Pcgs graded it AU-58,but I voted 64 as I felt it looked good enough in the pic.I really couldn't see any breaks in the luster.I once had an 1886-O that looked similar and graded Pcgs 58.I still believe it is uncirculated.
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  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
    << I once had an 1886-O that looked similar and graded Pcgs 58.I still believe it is uncirculated. >>

    Tennessee Dave: In reply to your above-quoted post, here is a simiar 1886-O which I own...

    The top two photos are new ones that I took after receiving the coin. The lower set are the original Heritage online photos that I used to make the purchasing decision.

    1886-O PCGS AU-58
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    Stuart

    Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal

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  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,509 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i><< so Stuart, did PCGS get it right? Can you see a luster break or two? >>

    Barndog: First, thanks complimenting my grading skills by asking if I think that PCGS correctly graded the coin. image

    In reply to your above-quoted question, in my opinion this is one of those ultimate super-sliders which grades somewhere in between AU-59.5 and MS-62 depending on how the grader is doing on the specific day that they grade this coin.

    When rotating the coin under proper illumination, there may be a very slight amount of perceptible dulling of luster over the eagle's breast and drumsticks, however it's a very close call either way. I've seen worse MS-63's.

    There are also very few contact marks or hairline scratches in the unprotected areas of the coin fields, which are typical of AU-58's. She's a real beauty!! image >>



    thanks, Stuart. Having ample time (which graders don't have) and the coin in hand surely gives you the opportunity to get it right. I'm glad you see the dulling that the graders evidently saw too.

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