Don't you love it when a zero feedback bidder jumps in on your auction on the last day?

Bosox1976

Ugh. While I know we all had zero feedback once, I am sure most view these as shills. Mine signed up today and bid on a lot that is over $250. Am sure potential bidders will love that. 35 watchers too.

OnlyThe10s

Cant you cancel their bid? Or does that look worse?

Bosox1976

Am not sure which people would think is worse. At least I require a paypal account to bid. Hopefully that will be of some reassurance to potentials.

digicat

I usually put a note on my auctions telling folks with 0 feedback to contact me first before bidding. If they don't I cancel their bid.

This was mostly out of frustration a while back because I ended up having to relist the same card 3 consecutive times due to 0 feedback scrubs with no intention of paying hitting the auction. From the bidding histories of the junk bidders, it seems that they did a search for "(griffey, payton, jordan)" and dropped bids on the first things that showed up.

OnlyThe10s

When's the auction end?

Hope it works out for ya man.

Bosox1976

Ends tonight. Probably should stop venting; don't want it to look like I am hyping the auction here on this thread. Thanks guys.

Leiascards

Doesn't bother me. If they pay I don't care if they have 0 or 50.. In fact one of my best repeat customers won an item from me with BIN when he had zero FB by the time I got home from work his feedbak was -3. Due to him hitting BIN from sellers who say newbies must contact first. Now he has 43 positives no new negs and spends about 150 to 200 a month on my items. I was worried when I saw that -3 but when I read the feedback and saw the facts I knew I had a chance to possibly harvest a repeat customer.

Allen

I think you can block sero fb bidders in the settings. It annoys me also.

Leiascards

You cannot block Zeros, you can block them if they have -1 or lower. In my case he had 0 when he hit BIN, had he had -1 he would have been blocked.

plifter

What's wrong with you people? Most businesses spend a lot of money on marketing in order to attract new customers. There are too many E-bay sellers that act like they are doing the world a favor by selling their merchandise. I wouldn't worry about there being a problem until an actual problem arises. If you canceled my bid because I was a new customer, I would make sure that I never spent a dime on your items in the future when I became a veteran e-bay user.

Bosox1976

It's not that anybody begrudges the new bidder the sale, rather the negative perception other potential bidders may have. I have had bidders scared off by this before - and tends to cost the seller money. A straight sale, no problem - but an ebay auction is a more fragile sale. Much more based on trust.

Estil

All the more reason Ebay should give you an option of blocking zero feedback scores, just as they do less than zero scores.

WinPitcher

I like when low feedback people bid on my auctions. If they win they win. If they lose all they did was
drive up the price and put dough in my pockets!


Last month I worried just like you did Mike, about perception, bottom line, the new person did not win and everything worked out fine.


Steve

BobaFett72

I certainly don't begrudge new Ebayers, however 90% of all problems I have had with non-payment or fraud were Zero rated folks.

I always send a polite email, or simply look up and verify their contact information on high $ items. And yes, I have picked up the phone and called some people lol. Sometimes you surprise the hell out of them, mostly they don't mind. Selling some coins 2 years ago a zero ranked guy was bidding on 4 auctions totalling $2,000

I gave him a ring, we chatted, his contact info checked out. He won, he paid...now he has 200+ feedback

On the rare instance where i cant verifty the contact info AND they dont reply to a simple email (or dont HAVE a valid email) they get canned.

ledsters

10 years ago I was an Ebay bidder with 0 feedback.

stevek

I don't mind 0 feedback bidders at all unless I notice that they are bidding on too many other auctions as well - then they possibly could be out to try to scam sellers. Fortunately I've never had one of these types win any of my auctions.

storm888

"All the more reason Ebay should give you an option of blocking zero feedback scores, just as they do less than zero scores. "

//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

If that were the policy, it is possible that there would never
be anybody added to the EBAY population.

New customers are good for the system. They are needed
to replace the ones that get run-off by PowerScamsters.

swartz1

Give the new guy a chance...

Bosox1976

I've allowed his bid, which has been high bid for most of today. The number of people "watching" the auction has gone down from 35 to 31.

Not sure if it is an indication of price or other concerns. We'll see.

Am glad that I require a paypal account to bid. Some don't like it, but it forces bidders to be legit (at least minimally). Wish me luck - there is an hour left.

baseballfanatic

If its high dollar and football, it can only be one person who has had over 500 ID's in the last year.

After all these years, almost all 0 feedback users are NARU coming back for a second, third or fourth helping...

WinPitcher

I think it will be fine.

Steve

Stone193

I know this is trite Mike - but we all start with zero - I agree - see how it goes and good luck.

Got a link?
mike

Bosox1976

Somebody overbid the new bidder, but he came back, we'll see how it ends shortly... Link

Again, I am not negative on the bidder - just on how it must look to other bidders (especially now )

Stone193

<< <i>Somebody overbid the new bidder, but he came back, we'll see how it ends shortly... Link

Again, I am not negative on the bidder - just on how it must look to other bidders (especially now ) >>

Ya gotta appreciate the spunk Mike.

WinPitcher

When they come back right after getting outbid it does look like a shill!



Just kidding............All this new guy is doing is adding to your price.


Nice auction by the way Mike.

Steve

WinPitcher

And for all we know he may not be new. it just may be an older ebayer that with the new changes has decided
to create a buying account.


Steve

Bosox1976

If I was bidding, I'd suspect a shill. I just checked - this is the only item he has bid on.

About the buying account - good thought. I've been meaning to split mine off for a while - maybe you are right.

Bosox1976

Winner, winner - chicken dinner! The new guy - for pretty much the same price I had it on the B/S/T board for. Well, good for him and good for me (I guess).

edit: Not to give away anything on the buyer, but the zip code associated on his account is....Huntington Beach.

elsnorto

If the noobs name is Joe Orlando, insist on certified funds!



Seriously, as sellers we understandably pay far more attention to and often over think bidding activity and/or history on an item. I rarely look at bid history before or after bidding on an item. At the end of the day I decide what price I am willing to pay, set my snipe, and forget about it until the dust settles. I would not be concerned at all and trust all will go well with this sale for you.

Snorto~

grote15

Personally, I have found that zero FB buyers are almost always prompt payers, and they tend to bid higher than the more experiences bidders out there, so even though that goose egg seems daunting, it almost never turns out that way.

SidePocket

My first buy on eBay was a 55 Aaron, I'm sure the seller was nervous.

fkw

Things to consider about Zero feedbacks and watchers.....

90% of the stuff I watch I never intend to bid on (I just track selling prices as I have similar items).

If I saw a zero feedback bider as high bidder I would just think its a newbie, as most experienced bidders dont bid on items until 5 seconds left in the auction (snipe).

Blocking a zero feedback bidder will cost you $$ in the long run. He might be one of the 2 bidders you need to get top $$.

Everyday hundreds of new collectors with fat wallets get into the hobby and find eBay, and they all are Zeros for the first week or so.

stevek

I think you did very well on the auction getting as much or more than the lot is worth, especially with some of the "money" cards. I mean the #316 McCovey is clearly OC and close to miscut...not much value, the #560 Banks you list as stained and clearly looks EXMT to me at best, maybe even EX...not much value, the #554 McCovey looks more EXMT to me as well rather than NM. Frankly, I didn't see any cards there that I would grade NM/MT, IE: In my opinion there are no 8's in that lot of those scans. Sorry, but that's my opinion and admittedly I grade conservatively.

But regardless of my opinion, I do believe the buyer will be happy with the purchase.

WinPitcher

almost 100 cards for 360.00? I think both did well.



Steve

stevek

Also - I hope the new buyer understands what ST means. That appears to be more than just a wax stain on the Banks. That's important for this lot in the buyer's calculations of what it is worth since that is one of the most valuable cards here.

I always prefer to spell out the word "stain" in my auctions and describe the stain if pertinent so there are no misunderstandings. If the buyer quickly calculated that card as worth say $50 or more in NM condition...he may not be happy getting a key card in the lot with a bad stain on it.

But again...overall I believe the buyer will be happy with the lot. Worst case scenario if he complains about the Banks, you could offer to PayPal some of the money back to him.

Leiascards

Really though the bottom line about the whole zero FB thing is no matter what you say in your listing you cannot stop them from bidding or snagging a BIN. If you refuse to sell the buyer can file a NSS on you and in May will be able to neg you with no fear of being negged back.

swartz1

<< <i>What's wrong with you people? Most businesses spend a lot of money on marketing in order to attract new customers. There are too many E-bay sellers that act like they are doing the world a favor by selling their merchandise. I wouldn't worry about there being a problem until an actual problem arises. If you canceled my bid because I was a new customer, I would make sure that I never spent a dime on your items in the future when I became a veteran e-bay user. >>

fattymacs

Prior to a month ago I had feedback of 3 in 5 years. I've since bought a Wii and 8 cards and still have a feedback of just 6, a few card sellers didn't leave FB. One because in my positive I left him 3 stars for sending in a PWE, he sent an email asking if it was me who "zapped" him I replied I left him 3 stars and he left no FB. The other guy I have no clue as to why he hasn't left any, I bought 4 cards and I paid immediately, left him a positive w/ all 5 stars. I think the thoughts about noobs(like me) paying quickly is probably right, we don't want anyone angry. But even after the few transactions I've completed I couldn't care less about the feedback, they'll either take my money or the next guy will. I'm already a salty old ebay dog after a few weeks of constant bidding.

WinPitcher

The buyer got these cards at roughly 4.00 each, ST or no ST I wouldn't refund anything.


Steve

rise2it

I had this happen not too long ago.

First item he won on eBay.

Yep...he paid.

....By check through Paypal, of course - so time/money delay waiting for it to be 'cleared' (which he didn't understand).

Then his confirmed address is screwed up, which takes additional time for him to work out.

Then, the daily 'wheres my stuff' emails (he was 3,000 miles away, of course) because he's getting antsy due to delays that are part of HIM getting set up correctly through Paypal.

I was nice and polite, but I simply don't have time to "train" these people.

--------

Another point - I think there should be a 'cap' on what zero or 'new' bidders can bid on.

I don't see 'new' people bidding on $400 cards, computers, etc. - due to confidence/trust...

swartz1

I guess some of us are just too good for people on ebay - heck - they are lucky people sell them nice cards