Collapse of 1961 Topps prices.

RonBurgundy

More evidence the market is tanking. I've been entering my inventory on VCP, and the cheap prices on garden variety '61 Topps cards is stunning. PSA 8's for less than $10 and 7's are $6 or less. A couple of 7's sold for a buck. These are cards that SMR lists for $22 in PSA 8. Even high numbers are going for less than half of SMR.

Looks just like a stock that investors have pulled out of.............




Ron

digicat

HoFers, stars, and minor stars still seem to have stable prices though.

11235813

If it's just commons that you think are tanking, it may just be due to a decline in set collectors. Given the current economic situation, people may be deciding to focus more on collecting individual cards as opposed to working on complete sets.

Also, as discussed on another thread, PSA 7's and PSA 8's are in ready supply for most years, so any slackening in demand will cause prices to drop.

Overrated

Ron I agree! prices are dropping and will continue.

smtjoy

Not seeing any real drop off in Clementes cards. I am not shocked commons are dropping and I would guess they have a ways more to go to bottom out, I just think those markets are getting flooded. When the big names mantle, mays, clemente and aaron start dropping -20-40% then I think we will be looking at a big hit on most cards. Right now I dont see it based on my sales on ebay because things have been strong.

Morgoth

1961's are for some reason pretty easy to find in PSA 7 or better. Yeah there are some really tough cards in that year but in general they are easier than most 60's. People will bring up cards like the WS or Gibbon as proof the set is strong but alot of stars are weak compared to SMR pricing and have been that way for awhile.

RipublicaninMass

55 topps baseball has been having record prices, not for any of the ones I sell, but a PSA 7 Monte Irvin which has sold for 125 average went for 338. A ton of them have been skyrocketing

BobaFett72

Regarding the 1961's
The early series may be "easy" but the high series is tough as nails.

Commons may be soft, but key cards still command good coin.

what are your thoughts on a raw set like this? good price or cheap?
1961 Topps Set on Ebay..just sold.

Another one sold recently for 3150.00

Buccaneer

The "collapse" started about 3 1/2 years ago. Most 60s PSA 7 and 8 fell but the drop offs with 61s were more noticeable. Don't know why. I asked my favorite dealer and he said that 61 raws are among his worst selling cards of the 60s. That's one of the 8 sets I am building/completing at this time and am having fun doing so. There are a lot of star cards in that set, not to mention the highs, but patience will be the key to build a nice set relatively inexpensively.

stevek

1961 was of course the year Maris broke Ruth's HR record, and Mickey Mantle didn't have a bad year either - Topps no doubt produced and sold a lot of baseball cards that year. Finding high grade raw commons of the 7 and 8 variety has never been that difficult with 61 Topps.

DEACONBLUES

1961 topps 7's and 8's have dropped but see what happens when you have a 30, 40, 50, 60+ card lot of 7's or 8's. All of a sudden they end going 8-10$/card for 7's and 14-16$/card for 8's. I dont think buyers want to be bothered buying one card at a time but sure bid up lots.

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nam812

<< <i>1961 was of course the year Maris broke Ruth's HR record, and Mickey Mantle didn't have a bad year either - Topps no doubt produced and sold a lot of baseball cards that year........ >>



If you mean those 2 things contributed to Topps running the presses a little longer that year, i think that is incorrect because I believe most (not all) of the press runs for the 1961 baseball cards were done before the 1961 season even started.

WinPitcher

What Nam said.


Steve

TomGshotput

<< <i>If you mean those 2 things contributed to Topps running the presses a little longer that year, i think that is incorrect because I believe most (not all) of the press runs for the 1961 baseball cards were done before the 1961 season even started. >>



But it could mean that more of what was sold and preserved as opposed to being returned to the company or discarded. . .

WinPitcher

I think that is the reason. 1961 was a popular year in baseball.

Much of it was saved.

people always say how hard the high numbers are yet one can always find them.

I think they are hard only in relation to the other 1961 series not within the entire
1960's issues.

They may be hard if you want centered 7 and 8's but raw 1961 High numbers are in fact plentiful.


1966 cards are the real tuffies.


(I know we have been thru that debate b4)



I hav built both sets and while a few 61's are really tuff the same can be said for certain 66's too.


Steve

WinPitcher

I also think we have finally gone full circle. For 1960's baseball cards
in 8 anyway. Commons in 9 will hold value and of course the stars and HOF's too. (in basically any grade)

Common garden variety 8's have probably bottomed out.

dealers will see this and hold them back until they see a few new players bidding them up
anyway.

It is all a game with a game.


Steve

swartz1

It is across the board - not just 61's

larryallen73

I bet ten cents the "values" of baseball cards don't fall as much as they did in the early 90's!

Morgoth

Actually Steve has a point the 61 Topps High numbers may bring good money but it doesn't mean they are rare in PSA 7 or higher.