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2001p NEW YORK QUARTER PCGS-MS69 POP 1/ SERIES: SOLD!

I have available the 2001(p) New York State Quarter grading PCGS-MS69. This is a pop 1 in this grade for not only this particular state, but for the entire state quarter series. I will entertain serious offers on the coin for the next day or two. If I get an offer I am happy with, I will let that person know that we have a deal on the coin. If I do not get an acceptable offer to me, I will likely post the coin on ebay in the very near future or just hang onto the coin myself. I will not counter-offer anyone. I wanted to give forum members "first shot" on the coin image Please PM me with serious offers. Wondercoin
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  • Mitch,

    I'll bid $15 for it...just kidding!

    Best Regards,

    Mike
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  • Mitch,

    You always said that you wanted to be the first person to offer a MS-69 State Quarter on the forum. You got your wish. image

    Don't suppose you could make an exception to the rule and get a scan of this one for all to enjoy?

    Keith
    Keith ™

  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,953 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Coingame2000: I just edited my post so anyone seriously interested could PM me. I wasn't running an auction here image Wondercoin.
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  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,953 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Keith: Thanks. I will get a scan of this coin for the board. image Wondercoin.
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  • I just wish the coin carried a greater weight than 1 in the new weighting system for state quarters. I am sure this is going to be an expensive one point jump.
  • dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,731 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just curious where it came from. Did you make it, buy it, or have it consigned to you? Was it an upgrade or a fresh coin? Hope these are not questions that are too top secret.

    Collector and Researcher of Liberty Head Nickels. ANA LM-6053
  • Mitch, Being neighbors and all. Will you start sening my coins to PCGS I don't think they like me??????????????
    Congrads,
    Rick
  • well?
    Terry

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  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,953 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Rick: I did not "make" this totally fresh piece, but you can always lure me to your submission batch to assist you in its review by offering me a Happy Hour in Dana Point image Wondercoin.
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  • Congrats on acquiring the coin so fast!

    But what's with this yard-sale-like "PM me with serious offers" thing? Post your price in public, chicken! image

    I posted mine, it was lots of fun, really! image
  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,116 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Let's see... Tad's MS69 Sac or Mitch's MS69 State quarter... decisions... decisions.
    (I just received my PCGS NY in MS68. Anyone who says these look like MS67's are way off! There IS a difference!)
    I can't wait to see your MS69 Mitch. It's just gotta be a blazer!

    peacockcoins

  • dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,731 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is he sending it to you to look at or do you live that close that you visit?
    Collector and Researcher of Liberty Head Nickels. ANA LM-6053
  • Tad,
    You have to remember that Mitch was a lawyer, so you will never get a straight answer to your question. image
  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,953 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Tad: You know that the (soon to be) proud owner of this coin is free to take an ad out in the NY Times stating what he paid for this coin! image And, that is his choice, as he is the buyer. I will do whatever the buyer would like me to do in that regard. image Wondercoin.

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  • WOW Mitch! I was wondering how long it would take for an MS69 State quarter to surface, and It ended up being a N.Y. I would love to see it on Ebay just to enjoy the heated action. WOW!
    Michael
  • Great find. image
  • itsnotjustmeitsnotjustme Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭
    Wow... I guess the value of the MS68s just dropped another notch!
    Give Blood (Red Bags) & Platelets (Yellow Bags)!
  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,116 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I guess the value of the MS68's just dropped another notch. image

    peacockcoins

  • The value of MS68 has already started to drop. Check out Ebay to see the new "blue light specials" on some MS68 State Quarters
  • Dennisl...

    I have problems most of the time understanding your post about the pricing of the states and high grade coins in general. Where are you coming from. Do you think we are all idiots here !!

    For general information "There has never been a MS 69 graded Washington Silver, Clad or State". This is a truly remarkable coin and one of a kind. I think we are looking at $15,000 minimum. We will probably never know.

    Mitch - where do you find this stuff..

    colorman3
  • Colorman,
    Which comment are you not understanding:

    1. I just wish the coin carried a greater weight than 1 in the new weighting system for state quarters. I am sure this is going to be an expensive one point jump.

    2. The value of MS68s has already started to drop. Check out Ebay to see the new "blue light specials" on some MS68 State Quarters

    As for comment #1 that I made, all I was saying is if you are competing in the registry set for state quarters, to go from a MS68 to a MS69 on a coin with a weight of 1, this will be an expensive point. If it was a Georgia with a weight of 4 you would be getting a lot more points for your money.

    As for comment #2, someone asking if a MS69 was affecting pricing on MS68s. I just stated that the prices of MS68s including NY-P are coming down. NY-P were bringing $500 and now they are down to less than $300 on eBay.

    I never said or implied that anyone was an idiot, that is your comment not mine.

    You stated that you think it is worth a minimum of $15,000. I bet if you offered Mitch $10,000 - $12,000 for the coin he would take it. I know I sure would.
  • Mitch,

    Where's that pic you promised? image

    Dennis,

    I agree that it is a shame that the NY issue is becoming a common coin in MS-68, which means that the weight for this piece will never get what it deserves without revamping the weighting system.

    That being said, would still be a nice piece to own. But if one can be found, you can be assured that people will seek another. That's what caused the flood of MS-68's.

    Keith
    Keith ™

  • What happens to this coin's value when another MS69 is made?

    Mitch, if I buy this one, and crack it out, will you buy it from me raw @ 80% of what I gave you for it?

    Kyle
  • Kyleknap brings up a great question, not just for you, but for everybody: Would you be willing to buy the coin out of the holder for 80% of what it brings?

    Cameron Kiefer
  • Can you guys explain why this is a good question?
    Isn't is quite hypothetical, and really, unreasonable?
    Please explain your logic in attaching a value to this coin when it is cracked out?
    Isn't this the same old "coin vs. plastic" thing?
  • My point is. All of this coin's value lies in the label. If this coin were raw, it would be worth exactly 25c.
  • "Please explain your logic in attaching a value to this coin when it is cracked out?"

    Please don't get offended, because I am also working on a PCGS type set, and I don't want to put down anybody that enjoys collecting coins, but my response would be "Please explain your logic in attaching a value to a coin less than a year old that is in a holder." Yes it is the only one, but I would say wait five years and see what the pops do.

    If you believe it is graded fairly and would get another 69 and be worth it, wouldn't you want to buy it back? The plastic therefore would be meaningless. Am I wrong in my thinking?

    Cameron Kiefer

  • Kyle,

    To 99% of the population, a coin is worth it's face value, regardless of when it was minted. That explains why places like post offices and movie theaters still receive non-circulating coins as payment for services. While working in a movie theater a few years back, I received SLQ's, Mercury dimes, Walking Liberty and Franklin halves, and Ike dollars in my till, as well as silver Roosevelts and silver Washingtons.

    Keith
    Keith ™

  • Thanks. For all those non-coin collectors surfing, reading the threads on this registry forum, this may be valuable:
    Please understand this fine point. Yes, if you crack-out a coin from its plastic, no matter its value, grade, eye appeal, or rarity, you can spend it for its face value.
    Thank you again, on behalf of all those here who know nothing of registry set collections. image

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  • pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭
    LOLOLOLOLOL....GEEESH I NEEDED THAT....colorman if ever there was...never mind....geo qtrs back when ms66 was pop 4/0 i paid 200...blew right up in my face...JUST AS ANYONE DUMB ENOUGH TA COUGH OUT 15K FOR A 25CENT PEICE...

    boy oh boy would I love ta meet that clown so I can honestly say I met the "DUMBEST PERSON IN THE WORLD" and you guys can rip this, but im gonna shove it right back down your throats in exactly 6 months....

    WHEN THAT BABY HAS BRO'S AND SIS'S ON DA POP

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  • Think of it this way, Bill.
    When this person takes the 9 at $15k, your $200 looks miniscule, and not worthy of another thought.
    What a huge favor this "dumbest person in the world" would be doing for you, right?. image
  • pmh1nicpmh1nic Posts: 3,290 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Braddick

    Could you scan your 68 and a legitimate 67 and point out those oh so obvious differences. Well maybe not scan because I think you'll need to do some macro photography in order to display just what those difference are...then again micro photography might be more appropriate image.

    On the serious side

    Wondercoin

    Congratuations on the MS-69 which I've learn from our many previous discussions is not at all an easy coin to make. I'm also curious (along with Supercoin) about what you feel the market value for this coin should be. You didn't think Supercoin's asking price for the Goodacre Sac was reasonable and you gave your reasons for feeling that way.

    This is not my way of starting trouble but you did question Supercoins valuation of the Sac and I think it's only fair to hear what you believe is the fair value of the 69 State Quarter and discuss the factors that when into your determining a fair price.
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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,116 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm not sure the visual would show up in a scan, but there really is a difference and you can see it without a glass. Now, whether that difference is worth a premium, that's a fair debate. The arguement over whether there is a difference between a MS67 and a MS68 though is lost. Even my non-collector wife can see it.
    On proof coins, it may be harder to spot the 'point', but on Clad Mint State coins it is easily there.

    peacockcoins

  • I don't think it's "only fair" to discuss the perceived value of this coin!!!

    I am interested in this coin, and these questions as to value are not appropriate.

    Mitch, I'm sure understands this obvious point, and as a potential buyer, or THE buyer of this coin, I would surely richly chastise Mitch, if he were to give in to your appeals.

    PS. YOU only get to see the other player's cards, when YOU put up the bucks to "call" his hand.
  • pmh1nicpmh1nic Posts: 3,290 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pop1

    Questions about the seller's valuation of this coin are absolutely appropriate, esspecially in light of the discussion Wondercoin began regarding the valuation of Supercoin's Goodacre Sac. Just about every coin sold, whether in auction or through some other means, is accompanied by the sellers reasons for setting the selling or reserve price. I'm interested in what criteria Wondercoin would used to decide whether a particular offer was a fair offer for this coin and how that price fares with other coins in the same price range.
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  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,953 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pop 1: I appreciate your comments. As a general rule, it is usually up to the buyer to decide if he wants to publicize the price he paid for an item. There have been several times in the past year I have asked the buyer and/or seller if he would mind me publishing the final sales price (after all, as has been pointed out here before, it is hard to state you bought or sold something at the new record price when you can't say what that price was) and the answer I have received is "yes I would mind".

    I can say that the coin is presently on hold for a collector and I will likely know tomorrow if the coin is still available. If it isn't available, it will be up to the new owner to disclose anything he elects to disclose about his purchase. image Wondercoin. P.S. Tad, if you want to start a thread to discuss MS69 State Quarters vs. MS69 Goodacres, I would be happy to voice my opinions. This simply isn't the place for that debate image

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  • FlashFlash Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭
    I'm curious to know what it is, exactly, that makes this quarter an MS69 as opposed to an MS68. Is it one less mark on the coin? Is it a noticeable stronger strike? What's the difference between this MS69 and a properly graded MS68? In order to be worth more than.. say, $500.. it had better be a glaring difference!
    Matt
  • This would probably be a most appropriate question for the pcgs graders. I'm sure, after viewing hundreds of ms65, ms66, ms67, and ms68 quarters, they had somewhat of a decent reason to grade this one ms69, wouldn't you say?
  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,953 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pop1: Actually, it looks like PCGS graded apprximately 25,000 state quarters before slabbing the first MS69. For comparision purposes, PCGS has only graded slighly more than 8,000 Mint State Jefferson nickels for the entire run of 1938-2001. I was surprised that PCGS has already seen and slabbed that many MS State Quarters image Wondercoin.
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  • pmh1nic,

    Last fall, I ran a series of photo examples of high grade moderns for review on the board. I lost the website the pics are hosted on, but still have the pics. I'll post them here. The first coin up is a Virginia quarter in PCGS MS-68, both reverse and obverse. The next will be the Kentucky quarter in MS-67, both reverse and obverse. I made the Kentucky from a mint set and purchased the Virginia piece. The Virginia quarter is still in my personal collection, but I sold the Kentucky, so I can't look at it if you have any questions.

    Keith
    Keith ™

  • Virginia obverse
    Keith ™

  • Kentucky reverse
    Keith ™

  • Kentucky obverse
    Keith ™

  • Will also point out that my new website is slowly in the works, where I will feature the grading series again, which had multiple examples of all circulating coins that I have in my collection or have owned. Hopefully, I'll have it ready by the end of February.

    Keith
    Keith ™

  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,116 ✭✭✭✭✭
    To the anti-moderns: Please don't tell me because something isn't old it can't have value! You sound like I did when I first started out collecting coins and I'd bug the Dealers at the local shops! Since when does age play a role? If you believe that truly, PM me as I've got some really super duper old Roman coins you can have cheap.

    There is Coin Rarity (low mintage/low survival rate) coins and there are Grade Rarity (high mintage but low state of preservation).

    Debate and argue the value of each (or, lack of value), but please don't preface your statement for or against by the weak opener of but... but... it's a 2001! It's only one year old!!
    Otherwise, give me a cherry slurpee and a 7/11 balsa wood glider so I can really re-live my youth.

    peacockcoins

  • Tad, if you want to start a thread to discuss MS69 State Quarters vs. MS69 Goodacres, I would be happy to voice my opinions. This simply isn't the place for that debate.

    I think you're confusing pmh1nic's post with mine, my lone post asked simply why you didn't list a price (well, ok, and I accused you of being a chicken, but I said it with a smile). However, I would be happy to participate in such a thread, but it would be pretty boring without comparing asking prices of the two coins, don't you think? image

    FWIW, I agree your sell thread isn't a place for such a debate, but since it's long since turned into one and you've brought me back into it yourself... here is my issue:

    If I get an offer I am happy with, I will let that person know that we have a deal on the coin ... (snip) ... I will not counter-offer anyone.

    You're asking people to bid blind on what I presume is a five-figure coin?? They take all the risk of overbidding, and you have no commitment to deliver even if they are the highest of the bids? I can think of a few other reasons why you might do this too, but they're also pretty cynical.

    As far as the chicken part, c'mon, all this stuff about not being able to disclose anything, or even, as you mentioned in another thread, post a scan (horrors!) without permission from the soon-to-be new owner? Well, as of yesterday you were the sole owner, and could do whatever you like, right? What's to hide?

    So I gotta stick with my chicken statement too, sorry. image

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  • dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,731 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Braddick, what Roman coins do you have? One of my former PhD advisors is an expert in the field of ancients, and I would have him give an opinion on them.

    From a scan he can usually tell if they are authentic or not, as well as just what they are. He can always do it with them in hand.
    Collector and Researcher of Liberty Head Nickels. ANA LM-6053
  • Apparently my sense of humor may be a bit too dry to come through in writing -- that photo was just randomly pulled off the net, any resemblance to the actual Wondercoin is purely coincidental.

    Please quit PM'ing your guesses, and get some sleep. image
  • woohoo where can I lay my 15k down for a 25 cent that was minted maybe 4 months ago? I think I need to just take up a job at the mint and take the coins of the line to be graded MS70 each and every one! Shoot If I get 4 MS70 at a growing price of lets say 50K each times 250 days a year... HOLY COW I WILL HAVE BILL GATES MONEY IN NO TIME FLAT!!!


    and I will only have to pay a quarter to do it!!!
  • Just a few innocent questions.

    What happens if someone deems it to be an MS68? What happens one day when PCGS is not the premier grader? What happens when a fingerprint shows up from the grader in a few years? More importantly, and more seriously, how can the Pop reports be considered solid when so little time has passed and people may not have submitted for grading yet? Isn't it super-risky to spend a lot of money on something like this, if you care at all about not throwing money out the window? Since grading is subjective and the large amount of in-between shades of mint exist, couldn't their be MS68s that look as good as that 69? Am I missing something or is there a rush for goodies and lots of acceptance of assumptions and risk? What has happened to similar "hotties" from 5 or 10 years ago?

    This game seems dangerous. Pop1, please be careful.
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