Vintage player Game Used Cards...

As I'm searching through my cards, I've found that I have a lot of vintage players cards that are game used or auto'd. I did an ebay search tonight of some of those players and was stunned at what I found. Compared to newer players like Joba Chamberlain, Hunter Pence, Jacoby Elsbury, etc. these vintage players cards are selling for extremely low prices. What I don't understand is this, there is so much emphasis put on players from the past like Musial, Jenkins, Mantle, Aaron, Jackson, Cobb, Munson, Feller, etc. that you would think their cards with auto's or game used would go for much higher. This seems to not be the case at all. I don't get why someone would rather pay more money for some new rookie than for a piece of Cobb's jersey or bat. That's just me though. I'm sure there's a reasonable explanation. Anyone care to chime in about this?
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Linky
This is my only autographed jersey card, and it happens to be an old school player, who probably didn't wear that many jerseys in his entire carrer.
Giovanni
Allen, I see what you're saying about the Now. It makes sense.
Jeremy, I've been thinking that once I sell all of these bulky monster boxes of over printed modern stuff I might go vintage. I've got a little bit, but not much.
Vintage what? Jerseys and autos, or vintage cards?
Giovanni
<< <i>Probably vintage cards as a whole. I mean, if I run into something cheap that I can afford I won't pass it up. I've set up a budget this year for each month to keep myself out of trouble. So, I'll probably start working on some goals once I get the stuff sold. So, lol, to directly answer your question, probably a little of both. >>
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I can appreciate a nice vintage card, but for now, only autos and if I come across some old timer's jerseys, then jerseys too. Good luck with your new goals!
Giovanni
The sets that really appeal to me are what I would really call vintage. Like pre-war and up to around early sixties. I know that the pre-war stuff is really cool. Long term though, I'm thinking I'd like to have an example of every different card out there. I think it would be neat to show my kids someday the progression of the hobby.
or a steve carlton auto for $10....absolutely ridiculous...
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<< <i>I went to a card show the other day - I could have had a joba auto for about $400...
or a steve carlton auto for $10....absolutely ridiculous... >>
What's even more amazing is someone might actually contemplate picking up the Joba and ignoring a Hall of Fame pitcher!
On the jersey/hat/bat cards, I dont know how other people feel but I really cant stand them. The though that they destroyed a game used item for a card just doesnt sit well with me, therefore I have no plans of buying any and I try to trade or sell any I get from packs. I also think they have been way overdone, I collect vintage Clemente cards and when I scan ebay there has to also be 100-200 of these cards for sale every day. They have even made the 1/10 worthless by making multiple similuar cards by switching out a player so its a different set of players for another 1 of 15 on an on an on. In any case, we all collect different things but these are just not for me.
However, with new players, the chances of the game used memorabilia being real is probably close to 100%, if not 100%. I mean there's plenty of it out there, no reason to use fake material, and at least the product can be verified in a number of ways.
Whose going to be able to verify that Ty Cobb really wore a certain jersey in a game? How about nobody, that's who. There are exceptions such as items in the Hall of Fame...but nobody, NOBODY, is going to cut them up.
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Also true that older players have been signing their autographs to anyone for decades, while Jacoby Ellsbury signature has only had demand for a few months
i concur
The fascination with destroying real memorabilia and sticking a thousand chunks on pieces of cardboard to create artificial crap is a real detriment to the hobby.
j
RIP GURU
<< <i>The reason is simple - I think by now most collectors out there realize that the chances of say a so-called game used piece of memorabilia from say a Ty Cobb card, actually being a REAL piece of game used memorabilia, is close to zero if not zero. It's just pure fraudulent crap in my opinion. >>
Material from Ty Cobb is highly questionable, but lots of players from the 1950s played into the 70s, shouldn't be that hard for Upper Deck to find an Al Kaline bat from spring training and when cut into pieces the size of a dime make cards thousands of cards of his for years off one. Same for a Yogi Berra uniform from when he was a manager. But if someone is going to spend money on those players they will buy something from 1957 rather than 2007
I LOVE certified auto cards, especially HOFers. Sometimes I cant believe how cheap I can buy them for. For example, Reggie Jackson's cheapest signed item on his site is a photo for 89.95...yesterday I just won a 2000 UD Legends on card auto for 40 bucks including shipping. Im sure Reggie must charge 75-100 for in person autos.
Game used cards were cool when they first came out. But similar to what Steve said, how do we know which are real and which are not? If any info comes out that the companies placed unauthenticated jersey pieces, the whole game used card of older players will drop like there is no floor.
You have to be very careful buying game used cards. So many where the pieces have had fake patches glued in to get more money....sometimes considerably more. Unless its been opened by you or someone you know then stay away.