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KalineFanKalineFan Posts: 868
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Which three cards would you name as the toughest cards to get in any particular year say in true
NM/MT (PSA 8) quality WITHOUT a qualifier for OPC Baseball?

I don't want to necessarily want to hear about stars, as some stars are actually more common than
some of the commons as is the case with Topps.

Within YOUR experience.....

I will start with (3) from the 1969 OPC set

#1 John Donaldson Card #217---N E V E R---comes centered!
#2 (TIE)
#52 Mike Andrews--Can't find a well centered copy!
#109 Jim Lonborg--Always has the upper left corner flaired out!
Honorable Mention-Carl Yastrzemski--Terribly off-center AND upper left flaired out corner!

Tony
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    PSASAPPSASAP Posts: 2,284 ✭✭✭
    PSA still has not graded a 1971 OPC Clemente in 8, although GAI has graded a 9. However, knowledgable sources tell me that card is overgraded, and would be at least one grade lower if slabbed by PSA.
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    bobsbbcardsbobsbbcards Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭
    Neat thread!

    I'll throw out the 1968 OPC Willie Stargell card. Mine is at least 1/4" short (top to bottom). From what I hear, they're all that way, but PSA continues to refuse to grade them (except in rare cases).
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    kimo75kimo75 Posts: 263 ✭✭
    For me difinitely the 1968 Stargell. I have 17 that are in the 7-9 range. I have had them rejected at least 10 times total.
    My argument is this; if there is a card cut short on a sheet, wouldn't there be at least one that is too big? How do they
    grade those?
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    mmsportscardsmmsportscards Posts: 807 ✭✭


    kimo-oversized cards are looked at as aok
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    redlegsredlegs Posts: 912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The 1970 OPC Johnny Bench all-star #464 has only been graded twice and both have the off-center qualifier. All of the raw examples I have every seen were o/c.

    Phil
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    AaronmanAaronman Posts: 173
    1973 OPC Card #1. I bought the only 8 in August of 2001. It is still the only 8 with none higher. The card is typically -10/110 centering (if that's possible). It usually has no border on one side and the picture is usually cut.

    Looking for well centered 1958 topps baseball psa 8 and up. Also dying for a 70 Aaron All Star in PSA 9.
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    mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭


    << <i>1973 OPC Card #1. I bought the only 8 in August of 2001. It is still the only 8 with none higher. The card is typically -10/110 centering (if that's possible). It usually has no border on one side and the picture is usually cut. >>



    Isn't that bizarre, Doug? Wouldn't you think that if any card would be centered for cutting purposes, it would be card #1? Great acquisition by you, for sure!
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    jmoran19jmoran19 Posts: 1,605 ✭✭✭


    << <i>1973 OPC Card #1. I bought the only 8 in August of 2001. It is still the only 8 with none higher. The card is typically -10/110 centering (if that's possible). It usually has no border on one side and the picture is usually cut. >>



    This card is in the upper left hand corner on the 73 OPC sheet. Assuming they cut the sheets face down, centering was done from the back side and this corner is probably where the cutting began

    Current obsession, all things Topps 1969 - 1972

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    FBFB Posts: 1,684 ✭✭
    There are a number of 72's that I'm having trouble with but the one that stands out the most is #522 Dodgers Team. I recently opened 3 boxes (108 packs) and came across 2 - both WAY off center.

    Frank
    Frank Bakka
    Sets - 1970, 1971 and 1972
    Always looking for 1972 O-PEE-CHEE Baseball in PSA 9 or 10!

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    hotmushhotmush Posts: 657
    1978 Pete Rose #100.
    It's DP but it is NEVER centered.

    An Ebay search on any given day for this card:

    Pete Rose #100
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    DavidPuddyDavidPuddy Posts: 3,483 ✭✭✭
    Tell me about it. I've been looking for a nice one for my set, but EVERY one is OC left to right.

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    hotmushhotmush Posts: 657
    And the ones that aren't (BVG) appear to be sheet cut.

    Brett is another one that's tough to find that year.
    The surface is speckled and it's always oc.
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    jimq112jimq112 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭
    I opened a lot of boxes of 78 opc way back when, this was the only one even worth submitting out of about 30. It's not a pretty 8. If I measured right it's 60/40, most of the rest were 80/20 or worse image

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    jimq112jimq112 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭
    I've also had a tough time with 1970 # 61 leaders card with clemente and rose. Always oc top to bottom, not as hard as some of the ones mentioned but still not an easy find.
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    DavidPuddyDavidPuddy Posts: 3,483 ✭✭✭
    My brett is OK. It's actually better than this scan shows. Stupid scanner. The corners are awesome, just a little OC/tilt, but it's nicer than most of my psa 9's.
    image
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    edmundfitzgeraldedmundfitzgerald Posts: 4,306 ✭✭


    << <i>1973 OPC Card #1. I bought the only 8 in August of 2001. It is still the only 8 with none higher. The card is typically -10/110 centering (if that's possible). It usually has no border on one side and the picture is usually cut. >>



    Yep, this is the card. It's always going to be way off centered.
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    67standup67standup Posts: 833 ✭
    “Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.” - George Carlin
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    67standup67standup Posts: 833 ✭
    '73 #100 Aaron is a good second behind that #1 card. Not including commons, these come to mind: '67 Cards Clubbers, '70 #1 (I had a PSA 8), '71 Clemente and '76 Rose.

    I completed a '65-'94 OPC set run including a 100% PSA graded '65 and '68 set. Still got my '74 set, the Schmidt isn't the easiest to find NM centered.

    Good call on the '69 OPC Yaz, I had a GAI 9.5, but it was most likely sheet cut.

    In regard to the '68s, the following are naturally short-sized. I owned one of the graded Stargells, that too was short, but just got by the grader:

    #2 ALBL, 9, 25, 29, 33, 35, 37 (Billy Williams), 82, 83, 102, 104, 109
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    1neatstuff1neatstuff Posts: 1,157 ✭✭✭
    i agree on the 1973 opc #1 card...very hard to find centered as i have 2 that are really badimage
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    hotmushhotmush Posts: 657
    1975s are generally very off center compared to some of the other 70s releases.
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    onlyme63onlyme63 Posts: 41
    I collect 1967 OPC and there seems to be a specific issue with 16 of the cards. For lack of a better term, they have a 'printers crease' pretty much on the middle of the card. So far, I have not found any without this crease. I have a few that have a fainter crease, but that's it. Below's the list:

    5  WHITEY FORD
    13  JOE SPARMA
    14  PHIL LINZ
    33  ATHLETICS ROOKIES
    37  RICK WISE
    55 DON DRYSDALE
    56  JOSE TARTABULL
    67  KEN BERRY
    76  JIM BARBIERI
    88  MICKEY LOLICH
    127  JOHN O'DONOGHUE
    134  GATES BROWN
    161  DICK WILLIAMS
    170  DICK MCAULIFFE
    178  JOHN BUZHARDT
    182  ED CHARLES

    One of the better ones I have is a Drysdale, which graded a PSA6. The card was a 7-8, but the faint crease knocked it down.

    These are my picks, sorry it's more than 3... image
    Always looking for 1967 OPC's.
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    grote15grote15 Posts: 29,535 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, the 1975s can be brutal. If you get a bad run, you can go through a whole box with a only a handful of gradeable cards.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
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    FBFB Posts: 1,684 ✭✭
    72's are the same way. Not only is the centering notoriously bad - but the gum melts and seeps through at least 3 out of the 8 cards in each pack. Some packs - its 7 or 8 out of 8. I've opened 6 full wax boxes (from different sources) so far and only one box wasn't like this.

    Frank
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    Sets - 1970, 1971 and 1972
    Always looking for 1972 O-PEE-CHEE Baseball in PSA 9 or 10!

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    grote15grote15 Posts: 29,535 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Frank is right on about the 72 OPCs, too. I've opened GAI 9 72 OPC packs that were mint from the outside only to find that the huge wad of gum had leeched through the first six cards of the pack. For some reason, the 72 OPC gum is prone to melting...on the other hand, the 73 OPC gum was very dry and almost never damages more than the team checklist on top.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
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    tsalemtsalem Posts: 505
    1977 Bobby Bonds!
    1978 Pete Rose
    1978 Robin Yount
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    DavidPuddyDavidPuddy Posts: 3,483 ✭✭✭
    The 78 Yount is a relatively easy card compared to others in the set.
    Robin Yount psa 8= 50, PSA 9= 32, and PSA 10 = 2. Out of 98 Total graded.

    The Rose on the other had is a beast. I'd love to see a picture of a 9 or a 10 (I think there is 1 graded 10).
    The 78 set also has some others, like the Rose, that are always OC. I've never seen an uncut sheet, but the cards horizontal above and below the Rose are almost always going to be OC
    Anyone have a pic of a 78 OPC uncut sheet? I'm also looking for a list of the double prints from the 78 set. There should be 22 of them.

    I'm working on a list of toughies from the very difficult 81 OPC set.
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    hotmushhotmush Posts: 657
    Here's a list of the 78 OPC DPs from a magazine I kept from 1993 called Canadian Card Collector with Mario Lemieux on the cover...

    2 Home Run Leaders DP
    4 Stolen Base Leaders DP
    6 Strikeout Leaders DP
    7 ERA Leaders DP
    9 Steve Rogers DP
    10 Graig Nettles DP
    30 Don Gullett DP
    31 Roy Howell DP
    33 Rick Langford DP
    47 Lee May DP
    58 Blue Jays Team DP
    71 Cecil Cooper DP
    72 Gary Alexander DP
    90 Tony Perez DP
    100 Pete Rose DP
    103 Jim Clancy DP
    132 Len Randle DP
    142 Dave Goltz DP
    174 Sal Bando DP
    203 Phil Garner DP
    207 Expos Team DP
    223 Tim Blackwell DP
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    DavidPuddyDavidPuddy Posts: 3,483 ✭✭✭
    Way to pick me up hotmush. Thanks
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    hotmushhotmush Posts: 657
    My pleasure. Still working on a list of pose variations for the 77 set.
    If anyone can offer some, I'd appreciate it.
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    tsalemtsalem Posts: 505


    << <i>The 78 Yount is a relatively easy card compared to others in the set.
    Robin Yount psa 8= 50, PSA 9= 32, and PSA 10 = 2. Out of 98 Total graded.

    The Rose on the other had is a beast. I'd love to see a picture of a 9 or a 10 (I think there is 1 graded 10).
    The 78 set also has some others, like the Rose, that are always OC. I've never seen an uncut sheet, but the cards horizontal above and below the Rose are almost always going to be OC
    Anyone have a pic of a 78 OPC uncut sheet? I'm also looking for a list of the double prints from the 78 set. There should be 22 of them.

    I'm working on a list of toughies from the very difficult 81 OPC set. >>


    Thats probably is true going by the numbers but every time I come accross a yount, its like 95/5
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    TurbosHockeyTurbosHockey Posts: 531 ✭
    PM me as I just opened a box of 1978 OPC and have some I maybe able to help you out with.
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    mmsportscardsmmsportscards Posts: 807 ✭✭


    ok lets try and get a list of 77 alternate poses off the top

    carter
    garner
    murcer
    perez
    fryman
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    hotmushhotmush Posts: 657
    I have gone through and scanned the first 132 cards (half the OPC set) for Pose/Auto/Crop variations etc.
    The photos are at my new OPC Ning SNS
    opeechee.ning.com
    List to come based on that.
    Last half of the set... to come some time.
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    KalineFanKalineFan Posts: 868
    Gonna add one that makes me cry all the time!

    1968 #2 leaders card with....yep....Al Kaline--please note this:

    A-L-W-A-Y-S factory cut WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY short.

    If you find one that is legitimately not cut short from the Factory,
    I will pay you a very good premium for it!

    There is not a single card graded by PSA that is not graded AUTHENTIC only.

    Tony
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    HITKINGHITKING Posts: 46
    A heads up for any 1973 O-Pee-Chee baseball card collectors. I just listed 16 different PSA 8 NQ cards on eBay. None have been back to PSA for that potential bump. All are low POP cards with the #82 and #86 being the only card graded in any grade to date. I had these squirreled away for most of this decade but was intrigued by this thread. I will be listing another 40+ different 1973 OPC PSA 8's later this week. Good luck bidding!

    My vote goes to the 1971 OPC Rose #100 for an extremely difficult card to find in high grade. I have owned 2 of the 3 PSA 8's (none higher) graded to date and would not have sent either in for grading. As they say I bought the plastic. The rough cut corners are notorious for showing brown cardboard against those black borders. I will be listing a 1971 OPC Rose PSA 7 Blazer later this week. The centering is off center from right to left and from top to bottom. I guess this is what drives the card to the PSA 7 grade. It is definitely the finest I have seen even though it is in PSA 7 plastic.

    I didn't realize the 1978 OPC Rose was so difficult in high grade. I do have the only PSA 10 graded to date. I will attempt post a scan of this card if anyone is interested.
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    hotmushhotmush Posts: 657
    I would love to see that 10 Rose. LOVE IT!
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    DavidPuddyDavidPuddy Posts: 3,483 ✭✭✭
    Yes,
    Scan that Rose.
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    RipublicaninMassRipublicaninMass Posts: 10,051 ✭✭✭
    I got about 5-6 78 Roses and NONE were even close to being centered. Very strange!
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    DavidPuddyDavidPuddy Posts: 3,483 ✭✭✭
    Here's mine.

    image
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    tsalemtsalem Posts: 505
    Mine look the same...
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    edmundfitzgeraldedmundfitzgerald Posts: 4,306 ✭✭


    << <i>A heads up for any 1973 O-Pee-Chee baseball card collectors. I just listed 16 different PSA 8 NQ cards on eBay. None have been back to PSA for that potential bump. All are low POP cards with the #82 and #86 being the only card graded in any grade to date. I had these squirreled away for most of this decade but was intrigued by this thread. I will be listing another 40+ different 1973 OPC PSA 8's later this week. . >>




    How many 73 opc Oakland A's will you be listing ?
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    fiveninerfiveniner Posts: 4,109 ✭✭✭
    I have a 1972 Ope CHEE set very nice cards however half or more are off center.
    Tony(AN ANGEL WATCHES OVER ME)
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    HITKINGHITKING Posts: 46
    Unfortunately the only Oakland A's is Mike Hegan #382
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    edmundfitzgeraldedmundfitzgerald Posts: 4,306 ✭✭


    << <i>Unfortunately the only Oakland A's is Mike Hegan #382 >>



    If the bidding starts at 9.99, then I will be in the race for it. That is one I need for my team set. I have a raw team set and a graded one.
    My raw one is complete. My graded one has a lot of work yet.
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    TurbosHockeyTurbosHockey Posts: 531 ✭
    Well I cracked open my 1978 wax box and just had some grades pop. I was expecting a little better but not too shabby for my first attempt at them

    1 1 14052692 NEAR MINT+ 7.5 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 1 BATTING LEADERS D.PARKER/R.CAREW Card US
    2 1 14052693 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 6 STRIKEOUT LEADERS P.NIEKRO/N.RYAN Card US
    3 1 14052694 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 26 LEE MAZZILLI Card US
    4 1 14052695 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 50 JOHNNY BENCH Card US
    5 1 14052696 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 102 SIXTO LEZCANO Card US
    6 1 14052697 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 105 NOLAN RYAN Card US
    7 1 14052698 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 109 KEITH HERNANDEZ Card US
    8 1 14052699 MINT 9 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 143 AL COWENS Card US
    9 1 14052700 NEAR MINT 7 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 154 EDDIE MURRAY Card US
    10 1 14052701 MINT 9 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 170 STEVE CARLTON Card US
    11 1 14052702 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 204 LOU BROCK Card US
    12 1 14052703 MINT 9 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 210 CARLTON FISK Card US
    13 1 14052704 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 230 ROD CAREW Card US
    14 1 14052705 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 236 LOU BROCK RECORD BREAKER Card US
    15 1 14052706 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1978 O-PEE-CHEE 238 WILLIE McCOVEY RECORD BREAKER Card US
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    hotmushhotmush Posts: 657
    Lemme guess... the Rose was off center. image
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    TurbosHockeyTurbosHockey Posts: 531 ✭
    Yup good guess how did you know. If anyone is interested these are available.
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    DavidPuddyDavidPuddy Posts: 3,483 ✭✭✭
    I picked up this freak from a fellow board member.

    image
    My 78 OPC set is starting to look pretty nice.
    My goal GPA is 9 or higher.
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    hotmushhotmush Posts: 657
    B-E-A YOUtiful!


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    TurbosHockeyTurbosHockey Posts: 531 ✭
    Very nice look card.
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