I heard a rumor the goverment can confiscate gold coins under the patriot act
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I don't know if there is any truth to this all be is it possible gold can be confiscated under the patriot act as a means to back the dollar?
I heard it is any coin not worth double the bullion value. Does anyone know more about this?
I don't know if there is any truth to this all be is it possible gold can be confiscated under the patriot act as a means to back the dollar?
I heard it is any coin not worth double the bullion value. Does anyone know more about this?
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Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
<< <i>Oh yeah, shirley it's true, it's on the intranet, right? What's that link to, a Ron Paul site or something? >>
Hooked on phonics?
<< <i>Oh yeah, shirley it's true, it's on the intranet, right? What's that link to, a Ron Paul site or something? >>
nope guess again....
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Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
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Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
And they can read your brainwaves too....they know what you are thinking!
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You mean like the college in NJ that just made GPS cell phones "mandatory" so they can "keep track" of the students.
Nothing's changed.
<< <i>Losing our freedoms, one at a time. >>
Yes, list the ones you've lost.
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
<< <i>Losing our freedoms, one at a time. >>
If you consider money laundering a freedom.
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<< <i>If your reading comprehension is at all acceptable, it is easy to see this is aimed at money laundering.. the details are clear. Put your tin hat away. Cheers, RickO >>
Interesting that when they can't get you on anything else they usually can get you on Mail Fraud. What was the aim of that law?
Some of the provisions of the Patriot Act were scheduled to sunset afte 4 years, but these were all part of the original act. Interesting that a variety of different Liberal AND conservative groups and now the majority of the general public have finally seen the light.
Government may monitor religious and political institutions without suspecting criminal activity to assist terror investigations.
* Government has closed once-public immigration hearings, has secretly detained hundreds of people without charges, and has encouraged bureaucrats to resist public records questions.
* Government may prosecute librarians or keepers of any other records if they tell anyone that the government subpoenaed information related to a terror investigation.
* Government may monitor federal prison jailhouse conversations between attorneys and clients, and deny lawyers to Americans accused of crimes.
* Government may search and seize Americans' papers and effects without probable cause to assist terror investigation.
* Government may jail Americans indefinitely without a trial.
* Americans may be jailed without being charged or being able to confront witnesses against them.
I'm afraid of this government folks, it has a taste and that ringing in my ear that keeps telling me- you are in the USSR- don't you know how lucky you are boy- BACK in the USSR....
The government can do anything anytime in any way they want- WE have lost your rights.
have you been on wikipedia again?
<< <i>Oh yeah, shirley it's true, it's on the intranet, right? What's that link to, a Ron Paul site or something? >>
It is true and stop calling me Shirley.
<< <i>Anyone that believes that it's OK to have a law sitting on the books because the government would never use it against you anyway is kidding him/herself and anyone else who's dumb enough to listen. You may laugh about it now feeling that the leaders your political party of choice would never use the law against someone like YOU, but when the next group gets in it may not be so cut and dried...especially if you've been writing bad things about the new group in emails that might be misconstrued as a threat when they're intercepted, kicked out of the group, and read by someone working in a cement block room that's paid to find the people that are against the "government". >>
The portion of the patriot act that deals with gold is not hard to follow unless you're laundering money or avoiding taxes. Follow the law and don't worry about it. Sellers are the ones who need to be aware of it because if they unwittingly become a party in a money laundering scheme if they take cash for large purchases. --jerry
Circa 1972-3 or so.....I was playing sports and studying chemistry at Cal...I was honored with Draft Lottery #330 so Vietnam was not in question .....I was probably the most "liberal" person in my high school a few years earlier and the most conservative person at Cal 2 years later.
Anyway, while living on campus , I would go home to Los Gatos once or twice a month and spend the day with my parents. My father was in the service in WWII and a businessman in San Jose and a conservative Democratic. I didn't have a political affiliation. We were discussing politics as usual and I made a couple of off the cuff statements about how I thought this country was being run. You'd have to experience Nixonian paranoia in the White House at the time to appreciate the early 70's. WELL....I was banished from the house for a year for the comments.
Fast forward...many years and my dad retired early and moved north and became a sheriff. 15 years after I was banished .......he related to me that he had thought about my remarks from time to time and made a comment along the lines that "something needed to be done in the country because things were out of control." "the only people who can do it are people who are squeaky clean and older and have no fear of losing everything."
We currently have lost control of this country ONE GAS TANK AT A TIME since 1973.
You ain't seen anything yet.
<< <i>Sellers are the ones who need to be aware of it because if they unwittingly become a party in a money laundering scheme if they take cash for large purchases. >>
Someone wanted proof of a right that you've lost...there you have it. Isn't cash still legal tender? There is a limit to how much cash that you can have...I believe that it's $10,000. Why can't you put cash in a fruit jar and bury it in the backyard, then pay for your new car with cash when you save up? Why all this worry about the average guy having a few thousand dollars that's untraceable by the government when they give billions to war contactors and can't find where it went? The government would like you tracked and manipulated at all times (especially if you make believe that it's not happening)...why do you think that all cars must now have a gps system ala Onstar? Why does your cell phone have a GPS chip in it? Why do they type in your drivers license number at the convenience store when you buy a pack of cigs or a six-pack, even though you have grey hair and wrinkles and are plainly of legal age. Very strange indeed. It's all for our safety.
Somma you brothers have convinced me. I'm movin' to the last worker's paradise on earth, North Korea. Don't have no worries there.
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<< <i>Somma you brothers have convinced me. I'm movin' to the last worker's paradise on earth, North Korea. Don't have no worries there. >>
Why bother moving your stuff...wait a few years and you can have the same benefits right where you are.
<< <i>This may sound bad to say but $10,000 is not really very much money today, I nice family vacation for 4 for a week on NCL is $10,000 today >>
Not necessarily. I took my family of 5 on a 12 night NCL Baltic Capital cruise this summer. We had two cabins (Category FF). For the cruise itself plus cancellation insurance we paid $4,500. We avoided all the over priced ship tours, and only hired a private tour company for two days and a night in St Petersburg. We had no overpriced drinks. We used public transportation in Germany, Helsinki, Stockholm and Coppenhagen, and walked in Estonia. We drove to Dover, and parked on the cruise terminal pier. All told, we spent $7,600 or $1520 per person.
Too bad I can't find another nice cruise at this price! We had a great time.
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<< <i>This may sound bad to say but $10,000 is not really very much money today, I nice family vacation for 4 for a week on NCL is $10,000 today >>
Not necessarily. I took my family of 5 on a 12 night NCL Baltic Capital cruise this summer. We had two cabins (Category FF). For the cruise itself plus cancellation insurance we paid $4,500. We avoided all the over priced ship tours, and only hired a private tour company for two days and a night in St Petersburg. We had no overpriced drinks. We used public transportation in Germany, Helsinki, Stockholm and Coppenhagen, and walked in Estonia. We drove to Dover, and parked on the cruise terminal pier. All told, we spent $7,600 or $1520 per person.
Too bad I can't find another nice cruise at this price! We had a great time. >>
Yeah, but you live in Belgium.
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<< <i>There is a limit to how much cash that you can have...I believe that it's $10,000. >>
Man, the BS is neck high around here.
Russ, NCNE
A lunch out for the family runs $75--a simple lunch like pizza and water (tap water at that 2 euro for a half liter, but it was potable and only 2 of 5 family members were sickened by it!)
Dinner for the family is an easy $200, thus we don't go out to dinner.
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<< <i>Sellers are the ones who need to be aware of it because if they unwittingly become a party in a money laundering scheme if they take cash for large purchases. >>
Someone wanted proof of a right that you've lost...there you have it. Isn't cash still legal tender?
You can still take cash, you just have to follow the law. What is so hard about that?
Hmmm, the Govt taking my gold seems kind of tirvial.
That's what we used to call lighting a fart, a torcher, as in "dude, don't torcher me!"
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
<< <i>http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/01jan20051800/edocket.access.gpo.gov/2005/pdf/05-11431.pdf
I don't know if there is any truth to this all be is it possible gold can be confiscated under the patriot act as a means to back the dollar?
I heard it is any coin not worth double the bullion value. Does anyone know more about this? >>
The same site states that the patriot act was created to take away our rights.
You can view this at http://www.Iamaparanoiddillusional.helpme.com
<< <i>I heard a rumor the goverment can confiscate gold coins under the patriot act >>
OK......Now let me get this straight....!!!....The Gov can confiscate all my gold under the Patriot Act if it doesn't add up to $10,000 . And if does I'm goin to jail......!!!!.........
i clicked on http://www.Iamaparanoiddillusional.helpme.com ....and nothing happened!...what now?..........[nail biting emoticon goes here.]
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<< <i>I heard a rumor the goverment can confiscate gold coins under the patriot act >>
OK......Now let me get this straight....!!!....The Gov can confiscate all my gold under the Patriot Act if it doesn't add up to $10,000 . And if does I'm goin to jail......!!!!.........
No, that's not even close to right.
LOL for sure.
And I heard parts of the patriot act authorizes the creation of a new currency called the Amero.