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I'm getting sick and tired of all the Jefferson Liberty First Spouse 70's!!!!!

GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,781 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Am I jealous??? of course.

Does it make sense that PCGS can be so liberal on this modern issue?? No

Did the Mint really make that many "perfect" First Spouse gold coins?? No

Is PCGS playing modern crap catch-up with NGC? image

Will the Mint be able to maintain their perfect record with Dolley??? Probably

Will this post go Poof?


Yet another submission loaded with 70's!!!!!!!

PCGS

What say you????

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  • smokincoinsmokincoin Posts: 2,636 ✭✭✭
    Glad mine are are still raw and in a sealed box!!!image
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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,513 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Glad mine are are still raw and in a sealed box!!!image >>


    How will you know if they're perfect if you don't look image ?

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  • smokincoinsmokincoin Posts: 2,636 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Glad mine are are still raw and in a sealed box!!!image >>


    How will you know if they're perfect if you don't look image ?

    image >>



    I was put in my place yesterday when I was told and learned that there is no such thing as a perfect coin! Therefore it doesn't really matter if I look or not.image
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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,513 ✭✭✭✭✭
    a 70 doesn't imply perfection... it only implies that they don't grade any higher.
    On the same token... a lot of people pay a premium for that sealed box in hopes of finding the BEST coins.
  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,991 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My grade through rate has been WAY beneath your posted result. However, I am really pleased to see PCGS grading them the way they see them. Why shouldn't they grade 6/7 70's is the coins are truly worthy? Probably the cream coins someone submitted after selling me the open junk. LOL

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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,595 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Get the melt bucket ready.
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  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,136 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Am I jealous??? of course.

    Does it make sense that PCGS can be so liberal on this modern issue?? No

    Did the Mint really make that many "perfect" First Spouse gold coins?? No

    Is PCGS playing modern crap catch-up with NGC? image

    Will the Mint be able to maintain their perfect record with Dolley??? Probably

    Will this post go Poof?


    Yet another submission loaded with 70's!!!!!!!

    PCGS

    What say you???? >>




    I'm glad I sold all of my T.J's when I did. PCGS is churning out about 30% .. 70's, both in proof & unc.
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  • lilbear8lilbear8 Posts: 153
    I sent in mint sealed boxes and look at what I got. I know you can't see the differance between a 69 and a 70 but this 66 didn't book that bad. Give me a break!image

    1 1 12005687 152124 2007-W $10 Jefferson's Liberty US PR68DC
    1 2 12005688 152124 2007-W $10 Jefferson's Liberty US PR66DC
    1 3 12005689 152124 2007-W $10 Jefferson's Liberty US PR67DC
    1 4 12005690 152124 2007-W $10 Jefferson's Liberty US PR66DC
    1 5 12005691 152124 2007-W $10 Jefferson's Liberty US PR69DC
    2 1 12005692 152120 2007-W $10 Jefferson's Liberty US MS69
    2 2 12005693 152120 2007-W $10 Jefferson's Liberty US MS70
    2 3 12005694 152120 2007-W $10 Jefferson's Liberty US MS69
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  • pf70collectorpf70collector Posts: 6,725 ✭✭✭
    Some submissions are filtered for the best coins. I did in hope of achieving 70's. Whether they are blindly submitted, who knows.
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  • aus3000tinaus3000tin Posts: 369 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I sent in mint sealed boxes and look at what I got. I know you can't see the differance between a 69 and a 70 but this 66 didn't book that bad. Give me a break!image

    1 1 12005687 152124 2007-W $10 Jefferson's Liberty US PR68DC
    1 2 12005688 152124 2007-W $10 Jefferson's Liberty US PR66DC
    1 3 12005689 152124 2007-W $10 Jefferson's Liberty US PR67DC
    1 4 12005690 152124 2007-W $10 Jefferson's Liberty US PR66DC
    1 5 12005691 152124 2007-W $10 Jefferson's Liberty US PR69DC
    2 1 12005692 152120 2007-W $10 Jefferson's Liberty US MS69
    2 2 12005693 152120 2007-W $10 Jefferson's Liberty US MS70
    2 3 12005694 152120 2007-W $10 Jefferson's Liberty US MS69 >>



    I guess that means the Pr66 is worth more due to rarity. lol

    Thanks,

    Chris
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    One thing that never ever gets mentioned on these threads is the fact that these are .9999 fine gold which is much softer than any silver coins so the PR70/MS70 count should be way up there!

    Sure, I don't have one but so what.
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image Cheers, RickO
  • ozzyfan269ozzyfan269 Posts: 1,002
    I decided that I will send my 4 in for grading to PCGS next week. Apparently the PR70 First Strikes are the ones that will be in the most demand. Wish me luck!
  • pnylvrpnylvr Posts: 568
    Not with me. I'm upset my ms didn't make 70. The coin is perfect, but the graders must have been blind that day. I have looked three times and spent over an hour examining this coins and cannot find a flaw. They spend 5 seconds and determine it isn't perfect!image
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  • 57loaded57loaded Posts: 4,967 ✭✭✭


    << <i>One thing that never ever gets mentioned on these threads is the fact that these are .9999 fine gold which is much softer than any silver coins so the PR70/MS70 count should be way up there!

    Sure, I don't have one but so what. >>



    you are right as far as a softer metal, but the prep of the planchet and strike force has all to do with it (i think)

    i wanted to see much more hair deatail in Miss LIberty, too

    i opened all of mine...and don't care about a slab with this subset for some reason, so maybe i have one and maybe i don't



  • KonaheadKonahead Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Glad mine are are still raw and in a sealed box!!!image >>



    Me too. Call me stupid but I feel these coins look better left in the OGP.
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  • puritan9puritan9 Posts: 1,028
    I got one of each and I'm happy with that.
  • pf70collectorpf70collector Posts: 6,725 ✭✭✭
    Some of my MS coins have small hairline scratches at 45 degree angles on the reverse that are only seen if the coin is held at a certain angle. Those are the ones I did not submit.
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  • jmj3esqjmj3esq Posts: 5,421 ✭
    Maybe the Mint is listening to us and producing a better quality product.
  • grabbagrabba Posts: 1,251
    That submission looks familiar.

    I believe someone on the forum belongs to that submissions. He had gotten some people from his office to buy some of the TJ spouse coins and then he submitted them all and I believe he was the only one that received a 69 and the rest got 70's. Just his luck!
  • 53BKid53BKid Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I sent in mint sealed boxes and look at what I got. I know you can't see the differance between a 69 and a 70 but this 66 didn't book that bad. Give me a break!image

    1 1 12005687 152124 2007-W $10 Jefferson's Liberty US PR68DC
    1 2 12005688 152124 2007-W $10 Jefferson's Liberty US PR66DC
    1 3 12005689 152124 2007-W $10 Jefferson's Liberty US PR67DC
    1 4 12005690 152124 2007-W $10 Jefferson's Liberty US PR66DC
    1 5 12005691 152124 2007-W $10 Jefferson's Liberty US PR69DC
    2 1 12005692 152120 2007-W $10 Jefferson's Liberty US MS69
    2 2 12005693 152120 2007-W $10 Jefferson's Liberty US MS70
    2 3 12005694 152120 2007-W $10 Jefferson's Liberty US MS69 >>





    Wow, that's harsh!
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  • rbalderman1rbalderman1 Posts: 634
    those grades that were mentioned ( 6 70's and 1 69) were sent in by a guy at work. He said he convinced his employees to buy them. they all got 2 of each. He said they were mint sealed boxes because sent in after the 19th. He said it was his second submission and he got the 69 on that order. all the 70's were for employees. I said how did you convince them to pay $10 a coin for first strike but got no response. Do you think that PCGS tends to grade higher for new customers? so they keep submitting? His first submission was 8 coins and he got 4 prf70 2ms69 and 2 ms70? shocking hey? LUCKY???? New customer?? roping them in???? Just a conspiracy theorist.
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  • MarkAZMarkAZ Posts: 17
    Hey guys,

    I think I remember hearing a rumor on these Jefferson Gold Coins .. that the Mint was delayed in getting these out (mail delay, or whatever), and therefore not so many 'First Strikes' ......... can anyone confirm that?



  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    Perhaps this makes a good arguement to bring in the 100 point grading scale. image



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  • TexastTexast Posts: 1,899 ✭✭✭✭
    It's amazing how a 69 grade use to be worth something, now with all the 70's from NGC, ICG and PCGS, a grade of 69 seems to imply the coin is somehow defective and not worth the cost of grading. All these 70's could be the beginging of the end for a lot of submitters.
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  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>All these 70's could be the beginging of the end for a lot of submitters. >>

    I'm guessing the opposite. Why buy any coin that isn't slabbed MS70. Demand perfection!!!! RESUBMIT!!!!

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