Altered surface

tresgatos

I have a coin coming back from PCGS with a grade of "altered surface." I
I take it that's code for bodybag?

Bear

Altered surfaces, means harshly cleaned, whizzed, engraved,

ATd, puttied, artificial frost, buffed, and always , but always,

means body bagged.

koynekwest

I submitted two doubled die Washingtons that had moderate to heavy die polish-done at the Mint and thus original surfaces-that were bodybagged with "Altered surfaces." Seems that PCGS has trouble distinguishing this characteristic from a coin that's been cleaned or otherwise messed with. Both coins-one in an ANACS MS61 slab-should have been holdered.

morgansforever

Yes it's coming back in a BB. Remeber failure is necessary for success.

It's a learning process.

Russ

Russ, NCNE

morgansforever

Johnny in action playing the race card.

Way to go Russ

tresgatos

Breaks my heart.

morgansforever

Is that a 8 over 7?

dizzyfoxx

<< <i>Is that a 8 over 7? >>



Sure looks like it.

ricko

Yes, it is.... Cheers, RickO

morgansforever

Hey OP, who cares what PCGS thinks. I like the coins appearance, plus an overdate to boot.

tresgatos

Yes, it really looks good in hand. Never in a million
years would I have guessed that the surface was messed with.

morgansforever

<<Yes, it really looks good in hand. Never in a million>>

Buy an inert holder from Amos, and slab it yourself. Or send it to ANACS, they will slab it.

Russ

<< <i>Never in a million
years would I have guessed that the surface was messed with. >>



From the images, the coin does look cleaned. Not severely so, but enough that it appears a bit funky. That said, there are plenty of examples of bodybags for altered surfaces that were graded the next time in.

Russ, NCNE

tresgatos

OK thanks. I think I will send it to ANACS along with my scratched '93s Morgan and whizzed 03s Morgan.
I think my uncle should have taken up model trains instead of coins.

PocketEasyTreasures

I would definitely send all of them to a company that net grades scratched and cleaned coins. At least the coin is encased in protective plastic.

darktone

<< <i>I submitted two doubled die Washingtons that had moderate to heavy die polish-done at the Mint and thus original surfaces-that were bodybagged with "Altered surfaces." Seems that PCGS has trouble distinguishing this characteristic from a coin that's been cleaned or otherwise messed with. Both coins-one in an ANACS MS61 slab-should have been holdered. >>



I would guess your coins were not bagged because of die polishing but more likely because of whatever caused it to grade MS61 at ANACS was the reason- most likely cleaned to some extent. A pro coin grader would pick up on die polishing without even thinking about it.

jhdfla

Wrap it in a Taco Bell napkin and put it on the south facing window sill, let it set for a while

Screw the TPG, just put it in a Capitol holder, that's got a nice strong overdate. I like it

TwoSides2aCoin

I will give it much love and park it in my 7070. Please send it to me where it will be safe forever.

Moonbiter

I'm still new to grading so my eyes don't catch everything yet, but doesn't Liberty's head look filled maybe? The high point of the head looks a different color then the rest of the coin. Of course it could be the picture though.

jmj3esq

I think it looks good from your photos. I would defintely get a second opinion at NGC or ANACS. Too often it seems like PCGS nit pics on big coins like that. Maybe they are right. If they are right I would defintely get it into a net graded ANACS slab.

I think my uncle should have taken up model trains instead of coins.

At least he collected some great rareties.

23Pairer

Here's my just received Altered Surface Bust Half from the big PeeCGS