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Should weigh 6.25g
Just don't see many of these
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Numerous POTD (But NONE officially recognized)
Seated Halves are my specialty !
Seated Half set by date/mm COMPLETE !
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Genuine Weight: 12.5 grams
Counterfeit’s Weight: 9.8 grams
I have several more counterfeits on my website, see link in Sig.
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Genuine Weight: 5.7 grams
Counterfeit’s Weight: 8.5 grams
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Why don't the idiots just make the counterfeit ones out of silver???? Is it that hard?
Too many positive BST transactions with too many members to list.
<< <i>Why don't the idiots just make the counterfeit ones out of silver???? Is it that hard? >>
The intent is to spend not to deceive for numismatic value. Silver would make these counterfeits pointless.
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<< <i>Why don't the idiots just make the counterfeit ones out of silver???? Is it that hard? >>
The intent is to spend not to deceive for numismatic value. Silver would make these counterfeits pointless. >>
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<< <i>Why don't the idiots just make the counterfeit ones out of silver???? Is it that hard? >>
The contemporty counterfeits here were intended only to pass in circulation, not to fool collectors. It was cheaper to use lesser quality metals....thats the point.
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Ok, was thinking on a semi-key/key date/classic coin scenario......sorry for the confusion.
Too many positive BST transactions with too many members to list.
You can see the off metal core in a few spots.
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<< <i>Very cool and interesting thread. TwoKopeiki and Pistareen - do the coins you posted have any collectable value now? Isn't there a market for these...especially the colonial era contemporary counterfeits? I would think so because each seems to have an interesting story. >>
There are a few collectors, specializing in counterfeits. Plus there are certain areas of collecting, like Spanish Colonials, or Mexican Cap'n'Ray series, where knowledge of counterfeits is essential if you want to be able to identify authentic pieces.
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<< <i>There are a few collectors, specializing in counterfeits. Plus there are certain areas of collecting, like Spanish Colonials, or Mexican Cap'n'Ray series, where knowledge of counterfeits is essential if you want to be able to identify authentic pieces. >>
Good to know...thanks.
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<< <i>do the coins you posted have any collectable value now? Isn't there a market for these...especially the colonial era contemporary counterfeits? >>
Yes. The piece I posted sold at auction for $218,500!
It's an utterly unique coin, something I discovered unattributed in the Eliasberg collection before it sold -- a circulating cast counterfeit 8 escudos made in Baltimore by famed silversmith Standish Barry. Just like Brasher's "Lima Style" doubloon, it imitates a cob-style 8 escudos and features Barry's smithy stamp.
Read more here.
Also, though I'm not the original poster and don't want to be the snooty Forum Police, some of the later posts to this thread show modern counterfeits, not contemporary counterfeits. Contemporary counterfeits are those made contemporary to the circulating life of the coin, meant to fool someone in commerce, not made for collectors or to fool numismatists. I prefer the term "circulating counterfeits" since it's more descriptive.
And yes, there is an active if small community of folks who collect these things.
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<< <i>do the coins you posted have any collectable value now? Isn't there a market for these...especially the colonial era contemporary counterfeits? >>
Yes. The piece I posted sold at auction for $218,500!
It's an utterly unique coin, something I discovered unattributed in the Eliasberg collection before it sold -- a circulating cast counterfeit 8 escudos made in Baltimore by famed silversmith Standish Barry. Just like Brasher's "Lima Style" doubloon, it imitates a cob-style 8 escudos and features Barry's smithy stamp. >>
Picking my jaw up off the floor now...
Thanks for the information. This is very interesting.
Geeze, and I thought my fake Morgan was something.
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It's a rare counterfeit Barber Quarter:
1909-S Barber Quarter counterfeit
1909-S Reverse
I wish the obverse was in better focus, but you get the idea.
What's interesting is that this is an extremely high quality coin that seems to have been circulated and got damaged. It weighs approximately 6.4 grams, or 1.5 grams heavier than a normal Barber Quarter. I have never seen or heard of another counterfeit Barber Quarter, but I'm sure there are more out there.
Please tell me what you think.
3 "DAMMIT BOYS"
4 "YOU SUCKS"
Numerous POTD (But NONE officially recognized)
Seated Halves are my specialty !
Seated Half set by date/mm COMPLETE !
Seated Half set by WB# - 289 down / 31 to go !!!!!
(1) "Smoebody smack him" from CornCobWipe !
IN MEMORY OF THE CUOF
<< <i>Stone...... shouldn't the weight be 6.25g ???? >>
Yes, missed the decimal place by one spaced. Correction, should be ".15g heavier than a Barber Quarter".
HugeGut, thanks for the 1902 quarter. This thread is quite benefiacial I believe and a great resource when searching what counterfeits can look like.
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Here's a counterfeit Barber 10c. Seems amazing they could pass enough of this stuff to make the effort worthwhile. Guess the dollar did go a lot further in those days:
I think these are highly collectible, and I'll pay considerably more for a counterfeit than a genuine example.
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It is stunning to observe . . .draws quite a crowd at local coin shows . . .
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The one with the full LIBERTY is bogus.
It's good silver and has a clear ring too. The dies are not copied from a real coin either, it seems to have been hand crafted dies.
in 1898 silver was cheap, so it was possible to make full weight silver counterfeits.
<< <i>Love the Coins being posted! I really like that Shield Nickel!!! >>
Thanks! I have several more false die counterfeit shield nickels. They are all crooked looking like the example I posted.
http://www.shieldnickels.net
My Grandfather gave me this to me. He was a minister and this was found in the collection plate in the mid fifties.
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I wish I would have kept it, it has a great look to it for a fake.
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<< <i>Here's one I recently bought as real. I sold it later to a board member who collects them.
I wish I would have kept it, it has a great look to it for a fake.
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I wish you had sold it to me
Sorry '64-D Peace doesn't qualify.
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