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Poll: Do you like it or not like it? (seated half)

RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
Explain why/why not. The coin is from the upcoming Heritage CSNS sale.

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  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭
    i guess i have to know the asking price in order
    to determine if i like it or not. ;-)

    but it is a nice looking high grade coin.
  • mirabelamirabela Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Boresville.

    Technically nice, looks like, but visually uninteresting.
    mirabela
  • relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,110 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Although there is nothing glaringly wrong with it, my preference would be to have a bit more toning on a coin of that era.
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  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,253 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Based on the top two images I don't like it. There is little to no luster shown, very flat looking.

    Based on the bottom pic I like it. It looks to be a much more accurate photo of how it actually look in hand. Appears to be dripping with luster.
  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭
    If there's good luster, it's pretty nice for a dipped coin.

    The first pictures make it look lifeless. I'm assuming the picture in the slab is more indicative of the luster, because there's no way this coin is a 64 if the luster is as dead as the top images make it look.
  • ARCOARCO Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like the coin. Some of the luster has flattened out, but it is still dripping with it.

    Tyler
  • It looks kind of nice in the slab pic. Love the arrows, hate the rays.


  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    Too white
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  • lathmachlathmach Posts: 4,720
    I think the bottom picture is going to be more like what it's actually going to look like in hand.
    It's a nice coin.
    Common as a date, but very rare in this state of preservation.

    Ray
  • ColonialCoinUnionColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭
    I just wanted to give a shout out to . . . oh, never mind.

    The coins looks OK - a little too white for my taste, but others may disagree.
  • Like it, love it, wish I had it in my safe.......

    Because.....its high grade, I am one of the crazy guys that collects condition, so when I die it will be easy to sell my collection.


    AL

  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks lifeless and dead to me. Also looks like it has rub on the highpoints.

    Then again, I don't collect or know squat about the series.
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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,700 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The 1853 Arrows & Rays Half is a common coin, even in high grade. That particular coin seems to have been dipped in the not too distant past. Price would be a major consideration. It's not a coin I would pay any premium for.
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  • etexmikeetexmike Posts: 6,852 ✭✭✭
    I like it.

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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am a novice collector of seated coins, but my initial impression, from the image alone, is that the coin has been dipped and there is some unattractive brownish residue in the periphery, most notably in the obverse from five to seven o'clock. As others have pointed out, and it is a matter of taste, I prefer my seated coins to have a little more of a natural appearance with less of a blast white look.
  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭
    i am very pleased with the honest answers here.
    it appears many do not like the coin because of it being
    too white. i agree.
  • Why I like it:
    It's a nice type coin with little or no actual circulation.
    It's a 'clashed die' [see the marks in the field just to the right of Liberty?
    That matches the under part of the eagle's right wing]

    Why I don't like it;
    IMHO, it has been cleaned, mybe expertly cleaned; however, the over all
    appearance to me is too 'flat."
    There is a rather large 'spot' on the top of the eagle's left claw and a smaller,
    fainter one just above it. Maybe the object of the cleaning, who knows?

    Anyway, if it were available to me at a price I thought right, I'd put in my type collection..
    Jay formerly of Garrison, TX
  • skier07skier07 Posts: 4,383 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The coins as others have mentioned is too white. It looks like it has been dipped at some point. There
    is no toning to speak of. Coin in hand might be a different case, but somehow I doubt it..

    Bruce
  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The coins looks OK - a little too white for my taste, but others may disagree. >>


    Hey, I was going to say that.

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  • BBQnBLUESBBQnBLUES Posts: 1,803


    << <i>Although there is nothing glaringly wrong with it, my preference would be to have a bit more toning on a coin of that era. >>


    I have to Agree... It's a beautiful strike, but boring w/o a little color.
  • mcheathmcheath Posts: 2,439 ✭✭✭
    A nice looking well struck coin but not one I would buy. However I wouldn't turn it down if someone donated it to my collection.
  • BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Too white >>


    Agree.
  • coinlieutenantcoinlieutenant Posts: 9,320 ✭✭✭✭✭
    the coin isnt bad....but it is common...and you could do a lot better...

    J
  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,553 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Although technically a high grade coin, since it's common it doesn't have much "character" to make it interesting to me.
  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭✭
    IMHO, it's a coin that was purchased raw and toned for MS-63 money or less; dipped and submitted to obtain the "market acceptable" grade of MS-64. Pass.image

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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>A nice looking well struck coin but not one I would buy. However I wouldn't turn it down if someone donated it to my collection. >>



    If somebody donated it to my collection, I would toss it in a Heritage auction.
  • wow. so many folks don't like it.

    well. I LIKE IT! image

    thanks for the generous giveaway!
  • JJMJJM Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭✭✭
    nice example, but I would rather have a toner for that coin series
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  • Anyone notice the effects of a clashed die on the obverse, That would account for some of the "flatness". generally, I like the coin.
  • richardshipprichardshipp Posts: 5,647 ✭✭✭
    I'm a sucker for that year and in that grade they are pricey. That being said; I think I'd pass on it. There are others out there with much better eye appeal for what a 64 would likely cost.
  • just a little too-overdipped with not much meat(luster) left on it. there is some nice metal-flow as evident in the right field, but might have had more at one time(or not) depending on what the originally toning looked like.
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  • MacCrimmonMacCrimmon Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭
    Me no likey.
  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,850 ✭✭✭✭✭
    the coin may not be as bad as the pictures

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  • claychaserclaychaser Posts: 4,406 ✭✭✭✭
    It has a kind of washed out and lifeless look to it.


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  • I don't love it, but I don't dislike it
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very nice coin.. and fortunately, no corrosion.... I like it..... image Cheers, RickO
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It would look terrific cracked out of there and placed in my type set album for the next 30 years.

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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Better than what is typically seen in MS64 holders today. NGC 64's are even more lackluster and often with a touch of knee rub. This one is a shade dullish, overdipped with residue remaining, and semi-impaired luster. No knee rub but unattractive discoloration on the highpoints. I'd want better for my MS64 "money." Overall a decent coin for the grade but just "stuff" imo.

    Survival rate of 1853's in all grades of mint state is considerable. If it wasn't a one year type coin, it would be priced as a common date.

    But.....finding undipped, choice original specimens with no rub from MS63 and up is difficult these days. Seems like the majority of these in UNC are now dipped. It's as if everyone has gone out of their way to ruin all the 1853 dimes, quarters and halves.

    roadrunner



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  • mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭
    The black dot on the reverse, just above the highest leaf, turns me off on this dipped coin. I would put this coin on the low end for the holder grade.
    I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.
  • Too white for my blood.. but nice technically.
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Interesting! Dead heat for like/not like, and two people claim to own the coin (unless one is an alt).

    Here is a photo of the coin I was actually considering buying, offered by Mark Feld:

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    It has the look I prefer.
  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭
    that coin actually looks its age. eye appeal is going off the scale.
  • mcheathmcheath Posts: 2,439 ✭✭✭
    >>>>>>If somebody donated it to my collection, I would toss it in a Heritage auction. >>>>>>>>>>


    I would do the exact same thing after i wrote them a nice thank you letter of course
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    That Feld coin has a much better look to itimage
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,834 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I purchased this one at the last FUN show for several hundred dollars under MS-64 bid. It is in an NGC MS-64 holder.

    To those who say that the 1853 arrows and rays half dollar is a common, I respond, "True, but not in strict Mint State." I've seen very few of these coins that I would call Mint State, and all of the true Mint State coins were white or used to be white after they were dipped and then toned over.

    So far as the coin that started this thread, it all depends upon the price. It's not worth PQ money, but I would not reject it out of hand.

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  • DJCoinzDJCoinz Posts: 3,856


    << <i>Although there is nothing glaringly wrong with it, my preference would be to have a bit more toning on a coin of that era. >>


    image It's a nice coin, but obviously dipped once or twice in it's lifetime.
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  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Technically nice, looks like, but visually uninteresting. >>




    I tend to agree.
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  • I went with #3- cuz I wish it were.....
  • VicPortlandVicPortland Posts: 288 ✭✭✭
    I'm neutral on it.

    That is to say that I would be more than happy to accept it as as gift, but it isn't the look that I would pay for. Does that make sense?

  • clw54clw54 Posts: 3,815 ✭✭✭


    << <i> Explain why/why not. The coin is from the upcoming Heritage CSNS sale. >>



    I'm not crazy about it, but I'm not sure why.
  • ElKevvoElKevvo Posts: 4,139 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like it...the picture in the coin in the slap looks like it has some luster...

    K
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