US MINT PRESIDENTIAL MEDALS ????

thinking of buying mint's presidential medals. any thoughts on which size to buy? do they retire these often? will it be difficult to find those that have been retired (ovals,etc.)? THANKS from a newbie who loves this hobby.
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<< <i>thinking of buying mint's presidential medals. any thoughts on which size to buy? do they retire these often? will it be difficult to find those that have been retired (ovals,etc.)? THANKS from a newbie who loves this hobby. >>
About 2 years ago I bought a complete set of the Medals of the Presidents on the bay. It cost me about $45. Regardless of whether they appreciate or not, it was one of the bets deals I ver got in mumismatics. The medals are all high relief and as an added bonus, they all have spectactular toning from sitting in the mint supplied album.
I don't think that in the long run any of the Current restrikes you can buy at the US Mint will go up in value since they are not that rare.
Finding the retired ones (Lincoln, Grant, Hayes, Garfield, Arthur, Cleveland, Harrison) seems to be easiest on eBay, but expect to spend $100 on a Lincoln, or more.
Chek out the offerings at Stacks as well, if you want 19th century strikes.
Some of them are in the Pop reports, and the PCGS phone rep told me they do grade them, but when I've tried to submit them myself, they come back REFUND NO SERVICE.
What gives?
Rex
<< <i>Where in the population report do they list them? >>
Medals in Pop Report
Rex
The larger high relief medals are better made, but the mint price of $38 a piece is well above the secondary market. You will do better if you look for them on Ebay.
If you ever get into the ORIGINAL issues of these medals, the modern pieces will make you sick. Back when these pieces were first issued the mint put a rich brown finish of them which made most of these pieces very beautiful. In reality many of these pieces were copies of the Indian Peace medals struck in copper. In "the good old days" you could buy bronze medals for many presidents, expect Lincoln, for less than $100 each. Those days are gone. Most times its seems that dealers now want $400 or so for a really nice medal. I can't tell you if this is a "one way" market (e.g. we charge high prices, but won't pay fair money give what we charge) or not since I've not tried to sell any of the pieces from my collection.
At any rate, once you have seen the 19th century medals, you won't be pleased with modern "yellow bronze" editions of them that the mint now sells.
Do some have a "P" or no mint mark at all ?