I don't think anyone here is jealous of GL. Any of us have the knowledge to do the exact same thing if we wanted to deal with the irritation/guilt. As Storm said, this is nothing new. Cracking out mid-grade cards and selling them raw isn't exactly a major breakthrough in marketing. Another seller, jwdjrs, used to make even more money doing the exact same thing before he gave it up. Oddly enough, he was my first repeat customer when I started selling cards on ebay. I didn't pay any attention to him until he started buying from me under a different id. Then I saw how much coin he was making...and at that time he was making a lot! I didn't really care...I actually found myself rooting for the guy...but I couldn't believe how strong his feedback was. It's one thing to get ripped off - it's another to be thankful for it!
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Seriously though, I understand the ethical argument here and the grey areas.
However, given what we know if the seller now responds in the negative to the question "has this card ever been in a graded card holder and if so what grade was it?", has he then crossed the line?
I agree with the basic premise of most here that these auctions are not technically a scam. But in my opinion these auctions are deceptive to some degree, therefore I will avoid buying from this seller.
"...if the seller now responds in the negative to the question "has this card ever been in a graded card holder and if so what grade was it?", has he then crossed the line?
BUT, the chances of him answering such a question are ZERO.
Even if he answered that question to someone "in the know," it would have no effect in warning other consumers. The seller would certainly never post the Q/A in his listing.
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I am not really sure that the practice is exactly a "rip-off."
I am not even sure it is close to "the line."
It would be interesting to see if the seller has ever sold
a crack-out for less than he paid for it. That can happen.
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(GYT)FLA
or
(Give_You_The) Finger_Lakes_ Auctions
A little semi-obscure Northeast US geographic humor for ya.
Seriously though, I understand the ethical argument here and the grey areas.
However, given what we know if the seller now responds in the negative to the question "has this card ever been in a graded card holder and if so what grade was it?", has he then crossed the line?
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been in a graded card holder and if so what grade was it?", has he then crossed the line?
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Yes.
BUT, the chances of him answering such a question are ZERO.
Even if he answered that question to someone "in the know,"
it would have no effect in warning other consumers. The seller
would certainly never post the Q/A in his listing.