Who is uncbob? Certainly an alt, but who?

zef204

Sorry to sound the horn, but there is no way a guy that opened packs of 50 and 51 Bowman when he was a "teenager" is posting here. Even more, that he is posting images that are hosted somewhere other than here, and responding with additional imaged within a minutes notice.

Sorry to be the guy, but I call BS.

Anyone else get that vibe?

POKERBOT

I thought the same thing. Seemed a little too fishy . A 70 something yr old whipping around the internet like a teenager?

stevek

I'm not so sure about that. I know an 89 year old gentleman who can type 120 words per minute and was instrumental in helping Microsoft develop their new Vista software.





























Uhh.....No

DayneDrain

im not sure who this person your talking about is..dont think ive ever even seen the post your reffering to but a funny thing is that my grandpa is on the internet more than me...not sure how quickly he does things but i know hes on there all the dang time!

almo

tennesseebanker

I dont know about the guys credibility ; but the 55's he posted look like reprints.

SidePocket

I was kind of wondering how he was so proficient at scans if he hadn't touched a card in 50 years....

lawnmowerman

<< <i>Who is uncbob? Certainly an alt, but who? >>

digicat

His website (with wife's crosstiching work) seems legit.

Old guys on the web isn't really something "new".

My 67 year old dad downloaded way, way more music during the "Napster" days than I ever did in college.
My wife's dad and aunt have their own myspace accounts, which they update regularly with pictures and silly blogs.

storm888

MANY old folks use the internet; most do not.

When the US Government was setting up PART-D
of Medicare (prescription drug coverage), hundreds
of millions of dollars were wasted setting up web-based
information portals to dispense information to seniors.

It turned out, according to the GAO, that about 75% of
eligible beneficiaries had NO internet access/experience.

pandrews

my dad is pretty good at using google..

nightcrawler

I got the same vibe, he posts like a seasoned vet

Uncbob

I call BS on you

I am also on the Pickup trucks sites showing off my 05 Dodge

Got TWO Truck of the Months and and One Truckof the Week

How is that for a 70 year old foggie

Uncbob

<< <i>I dont know about the guys credibility ; but the 55's he posted look like reprints. >>



Don't know about your eyesight credibility as I NEVER posted 55 cards

Uncbob

<< <i>His website (with wife's crosstiching work) seems legit.

>>



And my furniture is also on there

Uncbob

<< <i>Sorry to sound the horn, but there is no way a guy that opened packs of 50 and 51 Bowman when he was a "teenager" is posting here. Even more, that he is posting images that are hosted somewhere other than here, and responding with additional imaged within a minutes notice.

Sorry to be the guy, but I call BS.

Anyone else get that vibe? >>



Well BS detecter

Those images are hosted at GEOCITIES where I pay a monthly charge for 500M of memory and host my and my wife's other hobby pictures

Sounds like we have a little jealousy here

Maybe you ought to have proof before you call people BSers

stevek

<< <i>I call BS on you

I am also on the Pickup trucks sites showing off my 05 Dodge

Got TWO Truck of the Months and and One Truckof the Week

How is that for a 70 year old foggie



>>




Zef was just upset because you're a lot younger than he is.

pandrews

Zef is a good dude.. but we're often skeptical about new members here..

Uncbob

<< <i>I was kind of wondering how he was so proficient at scans if he hadn't touched a card in 50 years.... >>


Never said I DIDN'T TOUCH a card in 55 years I said I didn't COLLECT in 55 years

I take mine out of the safe 2 or 3 times a year to look at and scanned ALL of them several years back

Ther is NO WAY I would collect cards today --Why collect pictures of millionaires

Here is one of the raw scans (before I whitened the edges and centered them as I stated on my collage )

Uncbob

<< <i>I thought the same thing. Seemed a little too fishy . A 70 something yr old whipping around the internet like a teenager? >>


Yeah it really takes a lot of energy to use a mouse --way beyond the physical capabilityof a 70 year old

And one thing a retired 70year old has during a cold winter in time on his hands

ColleSystem

Uncbob:

Hi. I read some of your posts on the SGC board, thanks for sharing. You have some really nice cards pictured over there. I recall seeing either a Mays or Mantle 51 Bowman that you had that you were wondering if you should grade or not. Yes, grade that card! It was very nice. I am the guy with the star wars cards over there.

Scott

Carew29

Zef--look's like you've been called out on to the mat. What ye say??

lawnmowerman

<< <i>

Ther is NO WAY I would collect cards today --Why collect pictures of millionaires >>

I find this statement said without much thought. I collect modern cards because that was when I grew up and watched the players of "my day". My hereos if you will, just like you collected cards of your heros.

Most of us here were'nt born in the 20's or 30's, so we are not as connected as you to that time period

grote15

I wouldn't fault uncbob for his opinion on card collecting, though. Many collectors specialize in vintage only and have no interest in modern issues. Baseball has lost a lot of fans because of greed and the ridiculous salaries, and that has colored the opinions of many collectors, too. Some people consider anything after 1972 as "modern" even.

BobaFett72

Baseball has lost a lot of fans because of greed and the ridiculous salaries"

i concur.

They have also lost a lot of collectors with the current state of the card market; nothing but chase cards, cards with chunks of dirt, skin, wood and embryonic stem cells on them...OOOH so priceless lol
pardon the sarcasm. Folks are just in it to rip a pack, flip one card and junk the rest. Doesnt seem to be the comraderie and trading of the old days. I like the vintage collectors, the ones who swap and trade, dont worry about PSA 10's just go about completing sets and making friends.

Uncbob

<< <i>Uncbob:

Hi. I read some of your posts on the SGC board, thanks for sharing. You have some really nice cards pictured over there. I recall seeing either a Mays or Mantle 51 Bowman that you had that you were wondering if you should grade or not. Yes, grade that card! It was very nice. I am the guy with the star wars cards over there.

Scott >>


I remember you

I took them to Frank Garo of ARROW GRADE to have them graded --3$ a card (all 324 )
He is only 45 minutes from me
When he is done I will get the 50s done

Right now I am battling some health issues ( makes you realize some things shouldn't be put off )and wanted to get the cards ready for my estate so anybody
having to liquidate them wouldn't get fleeced
I was going to sell but after going through them again I can't do it

I won't be posting here much longer as I am not a collector anymore and only wanted to live in some past glory for a while
I really don't have much to offer other members except some of my memories

How long can you keep talking about 50-51 Bowmans etc before it gets old
I know I would get tired of hearing the same old from the same poster all the time

Uncbob

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<< <i>

Ther is NO WAY I would collect cards today --Why collect pictures of millionaires >>

I find this statement said without much thought. I collect modern cards because that was when I grew up and watched the players of "my day". My hereos if you will, just like you collected cards of your heros.

Most of us here were'nt born in the 20's or 30's, so we are not as connected as you to that time period >>



I could relate to my heroes

They didn't live in mansions

And kids weren't interested in a card because of how much it is worth

Seems like modern collecting is like speculating in the market or day trading in the market
Not real collecting but gambling

Barfvader

Why Arrow Grade?

In my opinion that will hurt the sales of the cards in the future.

lawnmowerman

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<< <i>

<< <i>

Ther is NO WAY I would collect cards today --Why collect pictures of millionaires >>

I find this statement said without much thought. I collect modern cards because that was when I grew up and watched the players of "my day". My hereos if you will, just like you collected cards of your heros.

Most of us here were'nt born in the 20's or 30's, so we are not as connected as you to that time period >>



I could relate to my heroes

They didn't live in mansions

>>



So what your saying is the players of the past didnt live "the good life", make good money or have "movie star status". MickeyMantle? If history is correct it seems Babe Ruth's lifestyle and luxuries proves you wrong.



<< <i>And kids weren't interested in a card because of how much it is worth

Seems like modern collecting is like speculating in the market or day trading in the market
Not real collecting but gambling >>


I agree that alot of collectors today do collect for the wrong reasons but you cant lump all modern collectors and players into the same "its all about the $" catagory.

I collect Emmitt Smith cards. I am just as happy with a unusual .50 card as I would be with an expensive rc. If you like a team, set of cards or a player the true worth of a card is what it means to you, not the monetary value.

Uncbob

<< <i>

Why Arrow Grade?

In my opinion that will hurt the sales of the cards in the future. >>



He was close
I had personal contact
He seemed reputable with a lot of experience and I did agonize about going with him CGS or PSA
But cost a lot less and fast response

Maybe I made a mistake but I wanted to get in done quickly --still ain't sure

Those handling my estate if I don't sell will at least have a starting point

Uncbob

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<< <i>

<< <i>

<< <i>

Ther is NO WAY I would collect cards today --Why collect pictures of millionaires >>

I find this statement said without much thought. I collect modern cards because that was when I grew up and watched the players of "my day". My hereos if you will, just like you collected cards of your heros.

Most of us here were'nt born in the 20's or 30's, so we are not as connected as you to that time period >>



I could relate to my heroes

They didn't live in mansions

>>



So what your saying is the players of the past didnt live "the good life", make good money or have "movie star status". MickeyMantle? If history is correct it seems Babe Ruth's lifestyle and luxuries proves you wrong.



<< <i>And kids weren't interested in a card because of how much it is worth

Seems like modern collecting is like speculating in the market or day trading in the market
Not real collecting but gambling >>


I agree that alot of collectors today do collect for the wrong reasons but you cant lump all modern collectors and players into the same "its all about the $" catagory.

I collect Emmitt Smith cards. I am just as happy with a unusual .50 card as I would be with an expensive rc. If you like a team, set of cards or a player the true worth of a card is what it means to you, not the monetary value. >>



Babe was a pauper allowing for infaltion compared to an average player today and he saved the sport and connected with the public

And I see so much worry on this site over whether a card is a 9 or a 10
Makes no sense

But to each his own and as you you say have as much right to your heroes as I did

I guesss I am just stuck in the past ( and that goes for a whole lot of where this country is headed today but that is another topic for the political sites --used to frequent them a lot but it got to damn depressing )

originalisbest

Uncbob, with all due respect, you aren't guaranteeing anyone left with your cards after grading by "arrowgrade" won't get fleeced - if anything the odds seem like they'd be more likely to be ripped off.

Frankly, the cards are better off left "naked" than that.

I would suggest if you want to maximize their value, particularly the Mays, Mantle and Ford rookies, to have them graded either by SGC or PSA. The cost is greater but this is almost certainly a case of you get what you pay for!

As for millionaires today vs. "regular joe" players of yesteryear - don't believe for a minute any of the players then, if they lived in today's playing age, would turn down a "ridiculous salary" out of some misguided sense of "honor" or "purity"? Please, they'd happily take the large salaries just as today's players do. I don't begrudge them or anyone for simply asking whatever their market will bear. Why wouldn't you? Silly.

originalisbest

Babe was no "pauper" - he made more money than the president (had a better year, don'tcha know) and the public he connected with rewarded him VERY richly for it - I couldn't even imagine the number of endorsements! A case could be made for Cobb having the right to envy Babe's success, but heck, he died a millionaire due to his own savvy investing (and, perhaps, his skinflint ways.)

Uncbob

<< <i>Babe was no "pauper" - he made more money than the president (had a better year, don'tcha know) and the public he connected with rewarded him VERY richly for it - I couldn't even imagine the number of endorsements! A case could be made for Cobb having the right to envy Babe's success, but heck, he died a millionaire due to his own savvy investing (and, perhaps, his skinflint ways.) >>


Hell the 6th pitcher in a modern rotation on ANY team makes more money than the president today

storm888

Why Arrow Grade?

In my opinion that will hurt the sales of the cards in the future.

/////////////////////////////////

uncbob:

The $3.00 grading fee is lost money, but I suggest that
you not repeat the mistake with any more of your cards.

Just wait for a PSA special and send them in.

Your heirs will get nothing for cards in Arrow slabs.

And, b4 you get runoff by what probably appears to you
to be age-chauvinism, you should try to understand that
the experienced guys/gals on this board spend alot of
their time busting scamsters. That makes most of us into
pretty suspicious viewers of high-value cards presented by
"new guys."

//////////////////////////////

And, to my young pals here:

As an old guy, I can report that there are
at least some old guys collecting/selling cards
and posting on BBs. Some of us can even drive
a computer, a little bit.

For guys with money and health, 70 can be the new 50;
60 the new 40. Hopefully, everybody here will get to
experience that new paradigm first hand, down the road.

lawnmowerman

<< <i>
Babe was a pauper allowing for infaltion compared to an average player today >>

Why the infatuation with the salaries of today? In Babes time he was hardly a "pauper" which is what I was saying. You are making it sound like the guys back then didnt want any money and they played for the love of the game

stevek

"I know, but I had a better year than Hoover." – Ruth to a reporter who objected that Ruth was demanding a salary higher than President Herbert Hoover's ($80,000 vs. $75,000)

Uncbob

<< <i>Uncbob, with all due respect, you aren't guaranteeing anyone left with your cards after grading by "arrowgrade" won't get fleeced - if anything the odds seem like they'd be more likely to be ripped off.

Frankly, the cards are better off left "naked" than that.

I would suggest if you want to maximize their value, particularly the Mays, Mantle and Ford rookies, to have them graded either by SGC or PSA. The cost is greater but this is almost certainly a case of you get what you pay for!

As for millionaires today vs. "regular joe" players of yesteryear - don't believe for a minute any of the players then, if they lived in today's playing age, would turn down a "ridiculous salary" out of some misguided sense of "honor" or "purity"? Please, they'd happily take the large salaries just as today's players do. I don't begrudge them or anyone for simply asking whatever their market will bear. Why wouldn't you? Silly. >>


Of course they would but then I would feel the same way
Hellthe Yankees and the Dodgers used to take the subway tothe park

Kind of late to leave then naked but it doesn't mean they can't be broken out and whoever gets my cards will have an idea which to do it for (I think Garo has a better idea of possible grade than any of my heirs would )

But then maybe I will get it done myself depending --Maybe I did screw up but it is too late now

lawnmowerman

<< <i>
Hell the 6th pitcher in a modern rotation on ANY team makes more money than the president today >>



THE PRICE IS WRONG BOB!

Uncbob

<< <i>

<< <i>
Babe was a pauper allowing for infaltion compared to an average player today >>

Why the infatuation with the salaries of today? In Babes time he was hardly a "pauper" which is what I was saying. You are making it sound like the guys back then didnt want any money and they played for the love of the game >>



Well since they didn't they sure were playing for the love of the game

But since the damn owners are greedy as hell the players might as well join in

ColleSystem

Uncbob:

I agree with storm. Don't have Arrow grade them. Anyone seeing a card of the caliber that you have in an Arrow container will automatically assume that the card has been altered. You may have to eat the 3$ per card fee, but it will be worth it.

As far as people of the game go, we need a lot more Roberto Clementes.
Scott

stevek

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<< <i>

<< <i>
Babe was a pauper allowing for infaltion compared to an average player today >>

Why the infatuation with the salaries of today? In Babes time he was hardly a "pauper" which is what I was saying. You are making it sound like the guys back then didnt want any money and they played for the love of the game >>



Well since they didn't they sure were playing for the love of the game

But since the damn owners are greedy as hell the players might as well join in >>




Pros always played for the money - don't kid yourself.



-

Uncbob

<< <i>Uncbob:

I agree with storm. Don't have Arrow grade them. Anyone seeing a card of the caliber that you have in an Arrow container will automatically assume that the card has been altered. You may have to eat the 3$ per card fee, but it will be worth it.

Scott >>



Too late now

lawnmowerman

Bob,

Do you also go by the name Rich?

Just curious.

Uncbob

<< <i>Bob,

Do you also go by the name Rich?

Just curious. >>


Why would I do that--I am just curious why you ask

Every site I am on--Truck--Political --I am Uncbob ( but as I say I gave up on the politics too depressing )

lawnmowerman

<< <i>

<< <i>Bob,

Do you also go by the name Rich?

Just curious. >>


Why would I do that--I am just curious why you ask

Every site I am on--Truck--Political --I am Uncbob ( but as I say I gave up on the politics too depressing ) >>

We had a member in the recent past that posted very similar to you.

stown

: shakes head :

Uncbob

<< <i>

<< <i>

<< <i>Bob,

Do you also go by the name Rich?

Just curious. >>


Why would I do that--I am just curious why you ask

Every site I am on--Truck--Political --I am Uncbob ( but as I say I gave up on the politics too depressing ) >>

We had a member in the recent past that posted very similar to you. >>



He have a complete set of 50 FB and BB and 51 BB

Uncbob

BTW

If there is one set I wish I had collected it would be the 55 Topps
Love the design

lawnmowerman

<< <i>

<< <i>

<< <i>

<< <i>Bob,

Do you also go by the name Rich?

Just curious. >>


Why would I do that--I am just curious why you ask

Every site I am on--Truck--Political --I am Uncbob ( but as I say I gave up on the politics too depressing ) >>

We had a member in the recent past that posted very similar to you. >>



He have a complete set of 50 FB and BB and 51 BB >>

I believe if you ask him, he owns everything ever made and yet to be made

originalisbest

Speaking of Roberto Clementes, my older brother loved watching him play - apparently he was always complaining about this little ache or this little pain, but then he played and he didn't play like anything was bothering him.

originalisbest

The 55 topps is one of my super-faves... what a shame Mantle wasn't in it!