How much does a rim ding bother you...

notwilight

...on a 150 year old cent. This one is for sale at a local shop. They have it marked Ch Bu and a price on it of $245. It isn't a series I'm currently collecting but the color caught my eye. The photo isn't quite as nice as it is in hand but after several tries I got it pretty close.

Your opinions are appreciated.

Thanks, Jerry
edited for spelling

coinman420

they are not severe and don`t bother me. JMO. nice coin and image.

billboat

Not my area but I'd pass--the green spots bother me.

RedTiger

It bothers me a lot for a MS coin. On a VG coin, not so much.

I'd pass on the coin in the photo. MS later date large cents can be found. The spots are troublesome too.

I'd rather have either of these two coins that sold recently on Teletrade

$240 hammer (add about 12% for shipping and charges)


$130 hammer

mozin

I would pass on this coin. Sorry.

PerryHall

Not a bad looking coin. Not sure its mint state. May be a slider. It all comes down to price. If they price it reasonable, buy it. Otherwise, pass. The rim nick doesn't bother me. Use it to get a discounted price while negotiating. Point it out to the dealer and refer to it as "damage". You can be sure the dealer did the same thing when he bought it. Let us know what you finally decide.

Elcontador

Low to Midrange Unc. BN Large Cents minted between 1850 and 1856 are as common as dirt. I'd pass on the coin not because any rim ding(s), but because of the spots. Except for the 1855, these coins usually come well struck. PC coins carry a substantial premium over NGC coins of the same grade.

PerryHall

Before I say pass, I would have to know the dealers asking price. If its cheap enough, it may be a good deal.

Riothamus

The rim ding doesn't bother me as much as the prominent scratches in front of the ear. If not for them the rim problem would be insignificant to me.

Riothamus

RNCHSN

I can't tell if the spots are green or black.

Green would bother me, black, not so much.

The ding isn't too bad in my opinion, but I don't do alot with raw large cents either.

seemyauction

The scratches on Liberty's Face bother me more.....


AL

STONE

I'm hearing a lot of negativity for that coin. I don't see much that that rim ding takes away from the coin.
I'm looking at the coin as being blown up and the ding looks larger than it really is. I say, get it if you want it.

ziggy29

To me, the acceptability of things like scratches, scuffs, tics and rim dings on a coin depends on the grade of the coin. What's generally acceptable for the grade? A G-4 coin is expected to have more "battle scars" than an AU-50, for example, and what would be an acceptable amount of blemishes on the former might not be acceptable on the latter.

So if this were a lower grade coin, that rim ding wouldn't bother me a bit. For an MS coin, it does. In this case, I wouldn't buy it based on the image, but if I had the chance to examine it in hand I'd do so and see how distracting it really is "in the flesh." In any event, the greenish areas on the coin bug me more than the rim ding.

mirabela

Except in cases of very low grade or extreme rarity, rim problems are a dealbreaker for me. I'm not fond of the business on her face, either. I can see some things to like about this coin, but in that price range with a bit of looking -- if one of these is something you actually want -- you should be able to find a coin with no flies on it at all, just a good honest no-issues example. I would hold out for that. If for no other reason, you will have some problems selling this coin when the time comes, on account of the scratches and the ding.

au58

That coin may be uncirculated in the literal sense, but it certainly is not choice. Red Tiger was on the mark. Keep looking. Nicer coins are available for similar or less money.

CaptainRon

The coin you have pictured is a lovely coin in my opinion, and the rim ding would not bother me. However like many have said I would pay choice prices for the piece.

Ron

tmot99

In general, small rim dings like that don't bother me that much. However, this coin is common enough that it can be found without rim dings, so why settle for less?

notwilight

Thanks all for the schooling. I am not considering buying the coin. I noticed the glossy purplish color and was attracted to it. In the light of day, I don't think I was able to capture the attractiveness of the fields and my photos exaggerates the spotting.

But I noticed the rim ding and decided to ask the forum's opinions. I've seen some pretty harsh criticism of very small rim dings on silver coins such as classic commems. My dealer will let me bring home about any coin I want and photograph it.

The rim ding is easily the most obvious flaw. The hits on the face are exaggerated by the blown up photo and the ding under the neck blends in because of it's location.

As for the price, I don't kinow how much he would come off of this price. For what he is asking you should be able to find a problem free coin.

Thanks and happy holidays,

--Jerry

Dog97

It's a minor ding and doesn't bother me much. The cleaned & retoned surface bothers me though.

notwilight

<< <i>It's a minor ding and doesn't bother me much. The cleaned & retoned surface bothers me though. >>



Dog,
The more I look at this the more I think you're right. The satiny finish is likely the result of harsh chemical cleaning. I'd say this is a pretty good retoning job--it really caught my attention. --Jerry

yevrah

Looks like enviromental damage to me.

Shoedog

If you just want one for type you might look for one that is struck up better.Especially the stars.

When these coins are well struck they are really nice.

Some of the better copper dealers have these on thier websites you can study.

And I agree these are common coins and you can be fussy.

Good Luck.

Dog97

<<<<< It's a minor ding and doesn't bother me much. The cleaned & retoned surface bothers me though. >>



Dog,
The more I look at this the more I think you're right. The satiny finish is likely the result of harsh chemical cleaning. I'd say this is a pretty good retoning job--it really caught my attention. --Jerry >>>

It was corroded & cleaned up. The porus surface is clearly shown in the picture. The red areas are not original surfaces, they are red from cleaning.
The greasy shiny sheen on the high points of the design elements are the giveaway from Dells darkener. It's a common date for the series and the most common in TPG holders and there is no reason anyone should consider that cent.
It's a piece of junk and not CH BU by any accepted numismatic terms nor is it priced as CHBU, it's priced @ ms60 money & overpriced at that.

grip

The most obvious place is her neck(corroded).

Al

mozeppa

its ugly and beat to pieces....send it to me for instant destruction.

GoldenEyeNumismatics

they annoy me a lot. I try to stay away from them.