<< <i><>So, bad alloying was a common problem with wartime nickel planchets. The question is, how did this old reverse die get into a press in 1942? And was there a large production run that was caught and melted, except for this one which got out into circulation?
I'm not going to say whether this coin is genuine or fake or it's a product of Henning, which is possible. But as you say, a run had to take place and the rest would have had to been recycled otherwise, where are the others. I think we would need some facts from the mint when the silvers were implemented...early on or later in the year. I could speculate, but that would be useless. I would be interested in taking on Bern Nagengast and others on the why on how they assessed the coin when they had it in hand but that's not going to happen. Here we have a lousy picture and two dates when it sold and we don't know who has it now. Why I had no interest to ask Briggs when we ......encountered early this year......he doesn't know me as many as you don't........and it's just that way. It's possible, since the coin has not been certified............I'll let your generalities take off from here.
Leo >>
I can easily see the Mint making a run of coins and then, either because the run was a mistake or because they decided to do something differently, such as use the large mint mark reverses, consigning it to the furnace. I just don't know if it happened.
I do know from first hand experience during several visits to the working floor of the Denver Mint, and one of Philadelphia, that during production runs some coins end up on the actual floor. I presume that sometimes they are picked up and either conscientiously sorted back into the correct bin, tossed into a generic "scrap these" bin, or else tossed into the nearest bin to get rid of it. If a stray from a condemned press run ends up in a bin from a normal press run, it can get out of the Mint that way and end up as a unique example of a press run.
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Answering a question from six years ago, there are multiple reverse dies with the large S, including at least two RPMs and a strong DDR.
Sean Reynolds
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Interesting... I will have to check my nickel jar...I have about three quarts of nickels from change over the years. Usually the only ones I saved separately were the obvious silver war nickels with the MM over the Capitol. Yep... that is what treasure hunters think when seeking the pot of gold. Cheers, RickO
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<< <i><>So, bad alloying was a common problem with wartime nickel planchets. The question is, how did this old reverse die get into a press in 1942? And was there a large production run that was caught and melted, except for this one which got out into circulation?
I'm not going to say whether this coin is genuine or fake or it's a product of Henning, which is possible. But as you say, a run had to take place and the rest would have had to been recycled otherwise, where are the others. I think we would need some facts from the mint when the silvers were implemented...early on or later in the year. I could speculate, but that would be useless. I would be interested in taking on Bern Nagengast and others on the why on how they assessed the coin when they had it in hand but that's not going to happen. Here we have a lousy picture and two dates when it sold and we don't know who has it now. Why I had no interest to ask Briggs when we ......encountered early this year......he doesn't know me as many as you don't........and it's just that way. It's possible, since the coin has not been certified............I'll let your generalities take off from here.
Leo >>
I can easily see the Mint making a run of coins and then, either because the run was a mistake or because they decided to do something differently, such as use the large mint mark reverses, consigning it to the furnace. I just don't know if it happened.
I do know from first hand experience during several visits to the working floor of the Denver Mint, and one of Philadelphia, that during production runs some coins end up on the actual floor. I presume that sometimes they are picked up and either conscientiously sorted back into the correct bin, tossed into a generic "scrap these" bin, or else tossed into the nearest bin to get rid of it. If a stray from a condemned press run ends up in a bin from a normal press run, it can get out of the Mint that way and end up as a unique example of a press run.
<< <i>I think we would need some facts from the mint when the silvers were implemented...early on or later in the year. >>
October 8, 1942
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Interesting... I will have to check my nickel jar...I have about three quarts of nickels from change over the years. Usually the only ones I saved separately were the obvious silver war nickels with the MM over the Capitol. Yep... that is what treasure hunters think when seeking the pot of gold.
Cheers, RickO