You need to buy them A.S.A.P some sets are selling on fee bay for 100.00 over Mint price just sold out last week or you can go on a list at the mint you my or my not get them
After comparing my 2006 unc from the 20th anniversary set with a 1992 unc I have come to the conclusion that the "special burnishing" or whatever the Mint did to the 2006 uncs does not do them justice. In fact, I think the "regular" or "old-fashioned" look is better.
So everyone is wrong except for you?? buzz off already, your attitude and the way you reply shows your mentality >>
You are missing my point and misjudging my mentality.
Can the Mint explain how 1995 dated coins are tenth anniversary and 2006 dated are 20th anniversary?
Can PCGS explain how 2005 dated coins are 20th anniversary and 2006 dated coins are also 20th anniversary?
I am merely pointing out that both the Mint and PCGS have a discrepancy in their numerology.
It seems to me that something was wrong with their thinking at the Mint initially with the 1995 sets being tenth anniversary and so did they apparently as the 2006, not 2005 dated coins became the twentieth anniversary sets.
PCGS was merely following the Mint's lead on the 2005 that you have which was ascribed the 20th anniversary moniker.
And when the Mint said the 2006 sets were the 20th anniversary, of course PCGS would comply with their attribution.
It really isn't of life or death importance to me, but one has to admit that there are inconsistencies as noted above.
Who cares? Probably not many people and when all is said and done it is about the coins and their mintages and their appeal.
So I'm not buzzing off, because I want to make clear what I was trying to say earlier.
I am not trying to posture myself as righteous, but it just can't be both ways...and that is the essence of my mentality.
Someone at the mint made a mistake in 1995 calling it the 10th annv. That is clear. 10th issue would have been correct. PCGS did follow the mint's lead and they made a mistake calling 2005 the 20th annv.
The mint called this, correctly, the 20th annv (2006) and came out with product that showcased that. PCGS had no choice but to go along (hey, lot of grading and great for fees, right?).
So, it seems pretty simple to me. 1995 was a misnomer and mistake. It was correct this year. Last year's was not a mint sponsored anniversary but was PCGS's so, it is up to the person to decide what they want/like.
To me, I would stick with the mint's, even the 1995 "error" year, as that is the official one and I collect coins minted by the US Mint and not the PCGS plastic (though, yes, I will pay for certain plastic).
What would you do with an unopened 20th Anniv. Silver Set dated Nov 17 ? Is it worth joining the PCGS collectors club just to get them graded as "20th Anniv?"
“When you don't know what you're talking about, it's hard to know when you're finished.” - Tommy Smothers
<< <i>What would you do with an unopened 20th Anniv. Silver Set dated Nov 17 ? Is it worth joining the PCGS collectors club just to get them graded as "20th Anniv?" >>
It is a crapshoot! Are you feeling lucky?
There are excellent reasons to do whatever you do or don't do with the set.
Only you know what is right for you.
But, since you asked, get it graded... it will probably appreciate beyond the total of your original cost and grading fees anyway, so there is little to lose.
<< <i>Could some forum members please give me the approx. current values for the following:
PCGS
2006P RP PR68= My answer.......$125
2006P RP PR69= My answer.......$320
2006P RP PR70= My answer.......$4000-5000
Having personally sold appox 15-20% of all PCGS graded ASEs sold on Ebay in last 10-14 days I'll feel pretty good about accuracy of these price estimates.
Oddly enough - it comes down to time - or lack of it. I generally dont buy from the mint and resell, that seems like too much effort. If people are doing it and able to help put food on their table with it, more power to them, I guess.
Eventually enough of these will appear on ebay and the prices will be driven down to where its not worth the effort. On the other hand if you had a MS-70 reverse proof, you would want to know for sure.
“When you don't know what you're talking about, it's hard to know when you're finished.” - Tommy Smothers
<< <i>Could some forum members please give me the approx. current values for the following:
PCGS
2006P RP PR68= My answer.......$125
2006P RP PR69= My answer.......$320
2006P RP PR70= My answer.......$4000-5000
Having personally sold appox 15-20% of all PCGS graded ASEs sold on Ebay in last 10-14 days I'll feel pretty good about accuracy of these price estimates. >>
I ordered one set in September, with expected shipping date of 12/08/06. Got an email on Nov 17th saying the set was shipped. Was out of town last week, had my mail on hold. The set was in the batch of mail held until today, Nov 27th. So the shipping was 10 days or less! I guess I got lucky compared to what I'm reading on this thread.
The interesting thing is the DHL connection. DHL shipped it from the fullfilment center in Memphis, to the post office in my town. From there, the post office delivered it. I wonder if the post office in Memphis got overwhelmed with shipment of Mint orders and outsourced the initial delivery to DHL?
Either way, the set is beautiful. No scratches or any other problems noted, with the exception of all the capsules found loose in the container.
<< <i>Is it my imagination, or are there less and less eBay auctions for ASE sets or coins?????? >>
Raw sets don't even seem to be selling in the $200 range. >>
Using search term of 'PCGS 20th Silver' the number of items listed on Ebay has declined from almost 200 a few weeks ago to around 150-160 now. I expect this to change after next delivery of ASEs in Dec.
When that third shipment of ASEs hit it will be interesting to see how they are absorbed by the market. Prices on PCGS graded coins have held up pretty well but definately soft on the raw stuff. I haven't seen enough non FS PCGS sales to get a feel for prices/value. Thoughts?
The Mint site said they estimated that it would take 12 weeks to complete shipments. My guess is that they are 1/2 way there as I receive my sets in the very first shipment.
Edited to add: The seller of the eBay NGC MS70 set is someone who I would never trust, I will leave it at that.
Could be a bunch of shills. Personally, I would find another auction. NGC 70s in my mind are worth perhaps double PCGS69s, and the price is already above that level. The private ID makes this auction suspect. The coins may or may not actually change hands, the price realized may be meaningless.
Could be a bunch of shills. Personally, I would find another auction. NGC 70s in my mind are worth perhaps double PCGS69s, and the price is already above that level. The private ID makes this auction suspect. The coins may or may not actually change hands, the price realized may be meaningless. >>
Call me naive, but I thought eBay was a bit better regulated than that.
I do see your point, the Seller could in fact be the Buyer.......God that sucks!!!
I sold my NGC70 RP for 1400 and the W MS70 for 300, The PR70DC are about 150 in NGC slab. Total for all 3 70's around 17- 1800, of course PCGS is 3-4 X's that
So here's a thought, so far 6.5% of Reverse Proof silver eagles have been graded PCGS PR70.
Currently, the population count is still low at 177.
However, as of today's figures, only 8,787 reverse proofs have been graded between PCGS & NGC.
My guess is that the mint has only delivered about a quarter of the entire mintage so far, and that the population counts on these should increase steadily.
If the proportion of PCGS grades to NGC holds, and a quarter of the issue winds up graded over say the next year, and if the proportion of 70 grades holds steady, there should be some 1,250+ PCGS graded 70 reverse proofs floating around eventually!!!
Comments
Thanks in advance
PCGS
PR68=
PR69=
PR70=???
NGC
PF68=
PF69=
PF70=???
Edit, I want them in the Mint packaging (Raw). Funny calling BS raw.
Hoard the keys.
Hoard the keys.
Calling it a key date for the RP is more open to those that collect the series as they are the ones who will decide if they want it or not.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
Camelot
<< <i>Absolutely, although I understand the uncs sold through dealers are different from the "special" uncs sold directly through the mint. >>
The Unc. from the Mint have a "W" mint mark, the regular unc sold through dealers does not. Otherwise they are the same.
The Reg. Proof is exactly the same as the single.
PCGS
2006P RP PR68=
2006P RP PR69=
2006P RP PR70=
NGC
2006P RP PF68=
2006P RP PF69=
2006P RP PF70=
Thanks in advance
Sorry, but that is the way I see it.. >>
So everyone is wrong except for you?? buzz off already, your attitude and the way you reply shows your mentality >>
You are missing my point and misjudging my mentality.
Can the Mint explain how 1995 dated coins are tenth anniversary and 2006 dated are 20th anniversary?
Can PCGS explain how 2005 dated coins are 20th anniversary and 2006 dated coins are also 20th anniversary?
I am merely pointing out that both the Mint and PCGS have a discrepancy in their numerology.
It seems to me that something was wrong with their thinking at the Mint initially with the 1995 sets being tenth anniversary and so did they apparently as the 2006, not 2005 dated coins became the twentieth anniversary sets.
PCGS was merely following the Mint's lead on the 2005 that you have which was ascribed the 20th anniversary moniker.
And when the Mint said the 2006 sets were the 20th anniversary, of course PCGS would comply with their attribution.
It really isn't of life or death importance to me, but one has to admit that there are inconsistencies as noted above.
Who cares? Probably not many people and when all is said and done it is about the coins and their mintages and their appeal.
So I'm not buzzing off, because I want to make clear what I was trying to say earlier.
I am not trying to posture myself as righteous, but it just can't be both ways...and that is the essence of my mentality.
Happy holidays to you and yours!!
Several multi-grading posssibilities in a box......seller just didn't hype it enough.
;>
eBay Listing
I am wrong about it not being able to be both ways, because obviously it is both ways!
PCGS did follow the mint's lead and they made a mistake calling 2005 the 20th annv.
The mint called this, correctly, the 20th annv (2006) and came out with product that showcased that. PCGS had no choice but to go along (hey, lot of grading and great for fees, right?).
So, it seems pretty simple to me. 1995 was a misnomer and mistake. It was correct this year. Last year's was not a mint sponsored anniversary but was PCGS's so, it is up to the person to decide what they want/like.
To me, I would stick with the mint's, even the 1995 "error" year, as that is the official one and I collect coins minted by the US Mint and not the PCGS plastic (though, yes, I will pay for certain plastic).
Really, it is pretty simple.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
What would you do with an unopened 20th Anniv. Silver Set dated Nov 17 ?
Is it worth joining the PCGS collectors club just to get them graded as "20th Anniv?"
<< <i>What would you do with an unopened 20th Anniv. Silver Set dated Nov 17 ?
Is it worth joining the PCGS collectors club just to get them graded as "20th Anniv?" >>
It is a crapshoot! Are you feeling lucky?
There are excellent reasons to do whatever you do or don't do with the set.
Only you know what is right for you.
But, since you asked, get it graded... it will probably appreciate beyond the total of your original cost and grading fees anyway, so there is little to lose.
<< <i>Could some forum members please give me the approx. current values for the following:
PCGS
2006P RP PR68= My answer.......$125
2006P RP PR69= My answer.......$320
2006P RP PR70= My answer.......$4000-5000
Having personally sold appox 15-20% of all PCGS graded ASEs sold on Ebay in last 10-14 days I'll feel pretty good about accuracy of these price estimates.
Eventually enough of these will appear on ebay and the prices will be driven down to where its not worth the effort. On the other hand if you had a MS-70 reverse proof, you would want to know for sure.
<< <i>
<< <i>Could some forum members please give me the approx. current values for the following:
PCGS
2006P RP PR68= My answer.......$125
2006P RP PR69= My answer.......$320
2006P RP PR70= My answer.......$4000-5000
Having personally sold appox 15-20% of all PCGS graded ASEs sold on Ebay in last 10-14 days I'll feel pretty good about accuracy of these price estimates. >>
Thanks for your reply, 2manycoins
Got an email on Nov 17th saying the set was shipped.
Was out of town last week, had my mail on hold. The set was in the batch of mail held until today, Nov 27th. So the shipping was 10 days or less! I guess I got lucky compared to what I'm reading on this thread.
The interesting thing is the DHL connection. DHL shipped it from the fullfilment center in Memphis, to the post office in my town. From there, the post office delivered it. I wonder if the post office in Memphis got overwhelmed with shipment of Mint orders and outsourced the initial delivery to DHL?
Either way, the set is beautiful. No scratches or any other problems noted, with the exception of all the capsules found loose in the container.
Now waiting on the other 3 I ordered...
Vietnam Vet 1968-1969
<< <i>Just for grins I ordered two more sets today. What are the odds on them being delivered? >>
About the same odds as finding a 1909-S VDB Wheat Cent in my pants change.
Good luck!
<< <i>Just for grins I ordered two more sets today. What are the odds on them being delivered? >>
Same as me, probably. I ordered another one a week ago Saturday.
It's like free action! Nothing to lose!
"Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working" Pablo Picasso
Is the thrill waning?????
<< <i>Is it my imagination, or are there less and less eBay auctions for ASE sets or coins?????? >>
Raw sets don't even seem to be selling in the $200 range.
Done Deal!
U.S. Mint says:
American Eagle 20th Anniversary Silver Coin Set (A10)
Price: $100.00 More Info.
Product is not available.
<< <i>
<< <i>Is it my imagination, or are there less and less eBay auctions for ASE sets or coins?????? >>
Raw sets don't even seem to be selling in the $200 range. >>
Using search term of 'PCGS 20th Silver' the number of items listed on Ebay has declined from almost 200 a few weeks ago to around 150-160 now. I expect this to change after next delivery of ASEs in Dec.
When that third shipment of ASEs hit it will be interesting to see how they are absorbed by the market. Prices on PCGS graded coins have held up pretty well but definately soft on the raw stuff. I haven't seen enough non FS PCGS sales to get a feel for prices/value. Thoughts?
each of the three coins in 68. 69. and 70 (except the MS) ?
Camelot
here is / 68/ 69/ 70
799976 2006-W $1 Eagle PRDC / 47 / 6,378 / 488
89998 2006-W $1 Eagle-20th Anniversary PRDC / 92 / 1,979 / 460
799977 2006-P $1 Eagle-20th Anniv. Rev Pr PR / 750 /1,798 / 177
Non First strikes are showing up on ebay for the Rev. Pr. It appears they have the same number.
Ray
MGySgt USMC(ret)
1979-2003
Aviation Radar Technician
Communications & Electronics Chief
Where does it go from here????
eBay
Edited to add: The seller of the eBay NGC MS70 set is someone who I would never trust, I will leave it at that.
<< <i>A very telling auction............NGC 70's command some pretty nice dollars on this full ASE set with original box, COA, and Mint packaging.
Where does it go from here????
eBay >>
User ID kept private
Could be a bunch of shills. Personally, I would find another auction. NGC 70s in my mind are worth perhaps double PCGS69s, and the price is already above that level. The private ID makes this auction suspect. The coins may or may not actually change hands, the price realized may be meaningless.
<< <i>
<< <i>A very telling auction............NGC 70's command some pretty nice dollars on this full ASE set with original box, COA, and Mint packaging.
Where does it go from here????
eBay >>
User ID kept private
Could be a bunch of shills. Personally, I would find another auction. NGC 70s in my mind are worth perhaps double PCGS69s, and the price is already above that level. The private ID makes this auction suspect. The coins may or may not actually change hands, the price realized may be meaningless. >>
Call me naive, but I thought eBay was a bit better regulated than that.
I do see your point, the Seller could in fact be the Buyer.......God that sucks!!!
Your Privacy is our utmost concern
Has there been an all MS/PR70 ASE set auction graded by PCGS????
Up for grabs is one, ASE RP.....Grade: PCGS PR70
The NGC version would probably command 30% of what this PCGS slabbed RP is worth.
Thoughts?
Link
<< <i>Here's a HOT auction.
Up for grabs is one, ASE RP.....Grade: PCGS PR70
The NGC version would probably command 30% of what this PCGS slabbed RP is worth.
Thoughts?
Link >>
I'm not an Ebay seller, but the bid history shows bidders bumping their own bids....
Ray
MGySgt USMC(ret)
1979-2003
Aviation Radar Technician
Communications & Electronics Chief
Total for all 3 70's around 17- 1800, of course PCGS is 3-4 X's that
Rookie Joe
I am still waiting on 4 sets ordered on 10/5
Fred, Las Vegas, NV
<< <i>Here's a HOT auction.
Up for grabs is one, ASE RP.....Grade: PCGS PR70
The NGC version would probably command 30% of what this PCGS slabbed RP is worth.
Thoughts?
Link >>
Winning bid?????????
$3359
Anyone see a price higher for this coin????
<< <i>
<< <i>Here's a HOT auction.
Up for grabs is one, ASE RP.....Grade: PCGS PR70
The NGC version would probably command 30% of what this PCGS slabbed RP is worth.
Thoughts?
Link >>
Winning bid?????????
The latest PCGS POP is 155.. The rev prf got up too high , too fast ..Great for long term though
$3359
Anyone see a price higher for this coin???? >>
Currently, the population count is still low at 177.
However, as of today's figures, only 8,787 reverse proofs have been graded between PCGS & NGC.
My guess is that the mint has only delivered about a quarter of the entire mintage so far, and that the population counts on these should increase steadily.
If the proportion of PCGS grades to NGC holds, and a quarter of the issue winds up graded over say the next year, and if the proportion of 70 grades holds steady, there should be some 1,250+ PCGS graded 70 reverse proofs floating around eventually!!!