Anyone have the cliff notes version for this thread?
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
ctsox - "What a blunder, way to go driving up the payroll for everybody else for what will be a above average guy at best" softparade "What a great move by my beloved Yankees, the future is set"
The Red Sox DID post the highest bid
ctsox - "What a great move by my beloved Red Sox, the future is set" soft parade - "What a blunder, way to go driving up the payroll for everybody else for what will be a above average guy at best"
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
<< <i>Those are interesting articles, Dan - but one thing to remember is this:
The Yankees, have, for the last half decade or more, given the middle finger to the luxury tax threshold. The Yankees, and only the Yankees, have done this, while Boston has at least been under this threshold (and thereby playing by the "rules" of the game). Even your carefully selected article points out that even after Matsuzaka is signed, they will still be under the luxury tax threshold this season - while the Yankees will certainly exceed it by a cool $50 million or more. So, while Yankee fans will use this move by the Sox as a way to say - "look at the Sox! They are just as bad as we are!" - the Sox have a lot of catching up to do to get anywhere near Yankee spending levels.
This move was the result of a lot of planning and scouting by an organization who didn't want to be outbid at the 11th hour by anyone else. >>
I love the Sox too, but this one move (if successful) will not bring them back to the postseason (even if he wins the Cy Young award)!
He will sign. No doubt about it. If the Red Sox had the balls to hold Boras up by low balling him just because of the stupid posting bid then the Red Sox would be hurt more then this guy would in the long run. Who would want to deal with them for being pretenders by vomiting out a absurd amount of money with the intention of hurting the player by trying to add the posting bid in as if it meant anything to the players contract?
He will be signed and the Red Sox will be in for A-Rod money. And we all thought that contract was the end of single contract stupidty.
Would be scary if the Bosox welched on the deal because they would see that their bid was just too far out there? Would they allow the second highest bidder if they dont sign within the 30 day period?
I don't know the exact reasoning, but the only team with a chance to sign him, is the team that won the bid. From SI -
>If Matsuzaka is unhappy with the offers from the winning bidder, his lone option would be to return to Japan, where he could either try to post again next year or wait two years to become a free agent. While Boras is used to getting his targeted number, he is doubly handicapped here. For one, only the winning bidder will be negotiating with Matsuzaka. For another, there's a 30-day time limit to negotiate, so Boras can't use the clock to his advantage, like usual.<
By the way, don't discount the fact that the Seibu Lions (his team in Japan) are going to be getting that $51 million only if Matsuzaka signs a deal. From what I have read, they are in no position to lose that kind of an immediate windfall - so I'd bet they play a positive role in helping Matsuzaka (and Boras) see this deal through.
Just skimming this thread, there are some misconceptions that I can clear up (unless they already have and I missed them).
The winning bidder gets exclusive negotiations with him and the Japanese team will be pressuring him to sign because if he doesn't within this 30 day window, they don't get a dime.
If a player gets hurt, he still gets paid unless he violated terms outlined in his contract (ie if he isn't allowed to ride a motorcycle and pulls a Ben). However, if he's insured and didn't violate any terms, the team can make a claim against the insurance company and be reimbursed (ie Bagwell).
And finally, Clemens $22m salary was prorated based on the time he played, which came out to +/- $17m.
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
<< <i> From what I have read, they are in no position to lose that kind of an immediate windfall - so I'd bet they play a positive role in helping Matsuzaka (and Boras) see this deal through. >>
Obviously you are not up on the ol knowledge when it comes to Scott Boras. He will bilk the Red Sox for every possible dollar and the Red Sox are in NO position at this point to back away. You watch.
<< <i>This deal will break $100 million, but only if the Sox can get 4-5 years, and not the 3 that Boras will surely request. >>
Again, you are not up on Boras history. The ONLY way the SOx lock him up for 4-5 years is if the numbers go up by a large margin per year. You act as if the Red SOx hold the complete hammer here. Not the case. There is just NO WAY the Red Sox can walk away from this deal crying about Boras asking to much money after they just spit out 51 MILLION dollars just to talk to him. NO WAY. And Boras knows this.
<< <i>Anyone else wish this thread would die...at least until this guy pitches an inning in the majors ? >>
No, It is decent conversation about a landmark financial event. The thread should keep going until he is signed at least. It has not become uncivil or anything ....
I hear what you are saying, and it definately has been civil ( I think we all know the reason behind that ) but to me it seems like its been back and forth speculation and what ifs and maybes so far. Until we see what kind of deal actually goes down I feel like its getting beaten to death at this point.
Anyhow, I guess it would have been easy to just avoid the topic all together instead of commenting as I did. So please, feel free to tell me to f-off and get lost if I dont like whats being said !
"The other teams could make trouble for us if they win." -- Yogi Berra
yeah, no matter what ctsox or I cut and paste about this guys talent level you are correct. It is all hot air until he steps on the mound.
Now the financial aspect is another story and worth discussing. We should know in 3 plus weeks how much more Boras rakes out of the Red Sox. >>
reasonable-sounding stories I have read indicate that Boras doesn't have the usual leverage here. As long as the Sox bargain in good faith, there's not a lot Boras can do. It would be very bad for Boras, his client, and his client's team (and the Sox) if no deal is struck. Still, an offer in the $9 million/year range might go to Boras as a take it or leave it with no further room to negotiate. Pretty interesting stuff, this posting, bidding, and negotiating game.
So here we are, less than three weeks before D-Day for D-Mat, and here is what we know: Boras and the Red Sox are an ocean apart. The Sox believe Matsuzaka to be worth roughly $7 million to $8 million annually while Boras puts the number at somewhere near $15 million per. That sent Sox president Larry Lucchino scurrying to Japan in hopes of getting a cost-cutting rebate from the Seibu Lions.
What happens from here is anybody’s guess, but in retrospect, we should have known better. The Red Sox dazzled us all with their aggressiveness in the Matsuzaka sweepstakes, acting like the big-market bullies they are. The Sox outbid everyone by nearly $15 million, all but turning on the Fenway Park lights to indicate that they were open for business.
Unfortunately, there was just one small glitch to the plan. Scott Boras noticed. And so when Sox officials and Boras began assessing the player’s value at the start of negotiations, maybe it was no surprise that Boras used the Sox’ aggressiveness against them.
The following is a dramatization.
Sox: “Well, Scott, we think Jose Contreras is a good precedent here. Four years ago at this time, Contreras defected from Cuba as one of the game’s most celebrated international performers. He signed with those damned Yankees for four years and $32 million, which is a lot of cake for someone who has never pitched in the major leagues. We’d like to offer Daisuke the same amount.”
Boras: “Nice try, fellas, but I wasn’t born yesterday. D-Mat is younger and better, and the same rules don’t apply. You paid $51.11 million for his rights, for goodness sake, so you must think he’s better than Matt Clement. To me, the money you’ve paid already is nothing more than a security deposit.”
Of course, underneath all this sits the conclusion that nobody really wants: Matsuzaka goes back to Japan and the Sox get their money back. The Red Sox do not want that, the Seibu Lions do not want that, Matsuzaka certainly does not want that, and rest assured that Boras, deep down, does not want that.
For now, here is the problem: When it comes to high-profile contract negotiations, Boras is not afraid to kill the hostage. It is what makes him such a good negotiator. He held out J.D. Drew from a year of professional baseball and did the same with Jason Varitek, moves for which he has been highly criticized. Boras routinely walks out of negotiations with a look of I-told-you-so.
The Red Sox know all of this, which is probably why Lucchino is in Japan trying to get the Lions to contribute, say, $10 million to the cause. If Matsuzaka signs, after all, the Lions would still get more than $40 million for selling his rights to the Red Sox. If Matsuzaka goes back, they get zilch. As for the Sox, Lucchino was quoted by The Associated Press as saying “the club has made a fair” and “comprehensive” offer to Matsuzaka, which is interesting on two fronts. First, the Sox allegedly have a club policy of not commenting on negotiations. Second, what the Sox term “fair” and “comprehensive” might not necessarily be so to Boras, who has at least as much (or more) influence on the negotiation as they do.
Now, presumably because they have a cause to promote, the Sox are suddenly discussing their negotiation with Matsuzaka publicly.
You cannot help but feel that they are very, very worried.
I believe that if Matsuzaka walks, it will be his loss. I think Boras will have to listen to his client, who wants to be a major league player, and take less than $15 million a year. The Sox will likely settle for $11-12 million if they have to go that high. If Boston doesn't make this deal, I think there will be more pressure to trade Manny in order to get some pitching. I love the hot stove season, so full of rumors, good news, and bad news.
It's an opening offer - perfectly normal negotiation strategy, you had to expect the Red Sox to do that. There is one interesting dynamic here, though - everyone wants this deal done (Boston, Seibu Lions, D-Mat himself, even Boras), so if the Red Sox have shown Matsuzaka proper respect by giving him a fair and comprehensive offer (according to Lucchino, that's what it was) and the Red Sox are treating the Seibu Lions as an "partner" with regards to future deals and joint marketing promotions, then there is only one person left who might "dishonor" the process by dragging out the negotiations - Boras. Can he deal with being the sole reason a deal doesn't get done? I don't think so.
Boras is a shark and has proven he has no problem holding players back. Yes, this could be a bit different situation but his client is Matsuzaka, not the Red Sox or the Japanese team. He'll use the bid as leverage but in the end, he is out to make the most money for his client and more importantly, HIMSELF.
if no deal is done and Matsuzaka develops a bum shoulder or some other problem this year, that will look really good for Boras -- costing a client fifty million bucks. Of course, it no deal gets done and Matsuzaka signs next year with someone for $15 million per year, the Boras is a genius. If I'm the player, I take the sure thing after squeezing every dime I can out of Boston.
<< <i> so if the Red Sox have shown Matsuzaka proper respect by giving him a fair and comprehensive offer (according to Lucchino, that's what it was) and the Red Sox are treating the Seibu Lions as an "partner" with regards to future deals and joint marketing promotions, then there is only one person left who might "dishonor" the process by dragging out the negotiations - Boras. Can he deal with being the sole reason a deal doesn't get done? I don't think so. >>
Jerry,
Have you followed Scott Boras's career? Trust me, he cares about ONE THING and ONE THING ONLY. To extract every god damn penny possible out of a team for his client in which he wields much power with future prospective clients. Scott Boras does not and will never give a rats stinking a$$ about what any team might consider a "fair offer". And you better believe he as "D-Mats" ear all filled up with his propaganda and has been working on him for quite some time. It is easy to see that Boras will be letting everybody know that the "dis-honor" will be on the Red Sox and nobody else. He will drive home the point about how dishonorable it was for the Red Sox to pony up BIG TIME MONEY to "D-Mats" former team only to offer "D-Mat" himself less money.
This deal will not be done for under $100 million including that posting bid. You all watch
He's a greedy, slimeball agent who actually makes Rosenhaus look like a nice guy.
Buck Foras
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
<< <i>He's a greedy, slimeball agent who actually makes Rosenhaus look like a nice guy.
>>
Well yes,
And the only HONOR that Scott Boras cares about is the HONOR showed to his clients wallet. He does not care about anything else ..... NOTHING. He has made a name for himself, he has made quite a career for himself, and he signs up client after client after client no matter how much the media accuratley portrays him as a leech to a teams funds. Why? Because he shows his clients THE MONEY better then anybody else.
There is no way Boras lets the Red Sox off easy with that 51 million dollar posting bid they put up.
Comments
<< <i>Anyone have the cliff notes version for this thread? >>
Marcia has thrown down the guantlett and said Jan is all grown up now. Jan still just says "Marcia, Marcia, Marcia."
If the Yankees posted the highest bid
ctsox - "What a blunder, way to go driving up the payroll for everybody else for what will be a above average guy at best"
softparade "What a great move by my beloved Yankees, the future is set"
The Red Sox DID post the highest bid
ctsox - "What a great move by my beloved Red Sox, the future is set"
soft parade - "What a blunder, way to go driving up the payroll for everybody else for what will be a above average guy at best"
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<< <i>Those are interesting articles, Dan - but one thing to remember is this:
The Yankees, have, for the last half decade or more, given the middle finger to the luxury tax threshold. The Yankees, and only the Yankees, have done this, while Boston has at least been under this threshold (and thereby playing by the "rules" of the game). Even your carefully selected article points out that even after Matsuzaka is signed, they will still be under the luxury tax threshold this season - while the Yankees will certainly exceed it by a cool $50 million or more. So, while Yankee fans will use this move by the Sox as a way to say - "look at the Sox! They are just as bad as we are!" - the Sox have a lot of catching up to do to get anywhere near Yankee spending levels.
This move was the result of a lot of planning and scouting by an organization who didn't want to be outbid at the 11th hour by anyone else. >>
I love the Sox too, but this one move (if successful) will not bring them back to the postseason (even if he wins the Cy Young award)!
If he does not sign this year with the sox he goes free agent in 2 years not 1.
And from what i read the disgrace he will face is still something big in Japan.
steve
He will be signed and the Red Sox will be in for A-Rod money. And we all thought that contract was the end of single contract stupidty.
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This deal will break $100 million, but only if the Sox can get 4-5 years, and not the 3 that Boras will surely request.
Are you guys reading the facts about this at all?
By the way, no - the second bid (and I assume you mean maybe a Yankee bid) is not possible under any circumstances here.
>If Matsuzaka is unhappy with the offers from the winning bidder, his lone option would be to return to Japan, where he could either try to post again next year or wait two years to become a free agent. While Boras is used to getting his targeted number, he is doubly handicapped here. For one, only the winning bidder will be negotiating with Matsuzaka. For another, there's a 30-day time limit to negotiate, so Boras can't use the clock to his advantage, like usual.<
The winning bidder gets exclusive negotiations with him and the Japanese team will be pressuring him to sign because if he doesn't within this 30 day window, they don't get a dime.
If a player gets hurt, he still gets paid unless he violated terms outlined in his contract (ie if he isn't allowed to ride a motorcycle and pulls a Ben). However, if he's insured and didn't violate any terms, the team can make a claim against the insurance company and be reimbursed (ie Bagwell).
And finally, Clemens $22m salary was prorated based on the time he played, which came out to +/- $17m.
<< <i> From what I have read, they are in no position to lose that kind of an immediate windfall - so I'd bet they play a positive role in helping Matsuzaka (and Boras) see this deal through. >>
Obviously you are not up on the ol knowledge when it comes to Scott Boras. He will bilk the Red Sox for every possible dollar and the Red Sox are in NO position at this point to back away. You watch.
<< <i>This deal will break $100 million, but only if the Sox can get 4-5 years, and not the 3 that Boras will surely request. >>
Again, you are not up on Boras history. The ONLY way the SOx lock him up for 4-5 years is if the numbers go up by a large margin per year. You act as if the Red SOx hold the complete hammer here. Not the case. There is just NO WAY the Red Sox can walk away from this deal crying about Boras asking to much money after they just spit out 51 MILLION dollars just to talk to him. NO WAY. And Boras knows this.
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-- Yogi Berra
<< <i>Anyone else wish this thread would die...at least until this guy pitches an inning in the majors ? >>
No, It is decent conversation about a landmark financial event. The thread should keep going until he is signed at least. It has not become uncivil or anything ....
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I hear what you are saying, and it definately has been civil ( I think we all know the reason behind that ) but to me it seems like its been back and forth speculation and what ifs and maybes so far. Until we see what kind of deal actually goes down I feel like its getting beaten to death at this point.
Anyhow, I guess it would have been easy to just avoid the topic all together instead of commenting as I did. So please, feel free to tell me to f-off and get lost if I dont like whats being said !
-- Yogi Berra
yeah, no matter what ctsox or I cut and paste about this guys talent level you are correct. It is all hot air until he steps on the mound.
Now the financial aspect is another story and worth discussing. We should know in 3 plus weeks how much more Boras rakes out of the Red Sox.
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<< <i>Brian,
yeah, no matter what ctsox or I cut and paste about this guys talent level you are correct. It is all hot air until he steps on the mound.
Now the financial aspect is another story and worth discussing. We should know in 3 plus weeks how much more Boras rakes out of the Red Sox. >>
reasonable-sounding stories I have read indicate that Boras doesn't have the usual leverage here. As long as the Sox bargain in good faith, there's not a lot Boras can do. It would be very bad for Boras, his client, and his client's team (and the Sox) if no deal is struck. Still, an offer in the $9 million/year range might go to Boras as a take it or leave it with no further room to negotiate. Pretty interesting stuff, this posting, bidding, and negotiating game.
So here we are, less than three weeks before D-Day for D-Mat, and here is what we know: Boras and the Red Sox are an ocean apart. The Sox believe Matsuzaka to be worth roughly $7 million to $8 million annually while Boras puts the number at somewhere near $15 million per. That sent Sox president Larry Lucchino scurrying to Japan in hopes of getting a cost-cutting rebate from the Seibu Lions.
What happens from here is anybody’s guess, but in retrospect, we should have known better. The Red Sox dazzled us all with their aggressiveness in the Matsuzaka sweepstakes, acting like the big-market bullies they are. The Sox outbid everyone by nearly $15 million, all but turning on the Fenway Park lights to indicate that they were open for business.
Unfortunately, there was just one small glitch to the plan. Scott Boras noticed. And so when Sox officials and Boras began assessing the player’s value at the start of negotiations, maybe it was no surprise that Boras used the Sox’ aggressiveness against them.
The following is a dramatization.
Sox: “Well, Scott, we think Jose Contreras is a good precedent here. Four years ago at this time, Contreras defected from Cuba as one of the game’s most celebrated international performers. He signed with those damned Yankees for four years and $32 million, which is a lot of cake for someone who has never pitched in the major leagues. We’d like to offer Daisuke the same amount.”
Boras: “Nice try, fellas, but I wasn’t born yesterday. D-Mat is younger and better, and the same rules don’t apply. You paid $51.11 million for his rights, for goodness sake, so you must think he’s better than Matt Clement. To me, the money you’ve paid already is nothing more than a security deposit.”
Of course, underneath all this sits the conclusion that nobody really wants: Matsuzaka goes back to Japan and the Sox get their money back. The Red Sox do not want that, the Seibu Lions do not want that, Matsuzaka certainly does not want that, and rest assured that Boras, deep down, does not want that.
For now, here is the problem: When it comes to high-profile contract negotiations, Boras is not afraid to kill the hostage. It is what makes him such a good negotiator. He held out J.D. Drew from a year of professional baseball and did the same with Jason Varitek, moves for which he has been highly criticized. Boras routinely walks out of negotiations with a look of I-told-you-so.
The Red Sox know all of this, which is probably why Lucchino is in Japan trying to get the Lions to contribute, say, $10 million to the cause. If Matsuzaka signs, after all, the Lions would still get more than $40 million for selling his rights to the Red Sox. If Matsuzaka goes back, they get zilch.
As for the Sox, Lucchino was quoted by The Associated Press as saying “the club has made a fair” and “comprehensive” offer to Matsuzaka, which is interesting on two fronts. First, the Sox allegedly have a club policy of not commenting on negotiations. Second, what the Sox term “fair” and “comprehensive” might not necessarily be so to Boras, who has at least as much (or more) influence on the negotiation as they do.
Now, presumably because they have a cause to promote, the Sox are suddenly discussing their negotiation with Matsuzaka publicly.
You cannot help but feel that they are very, very worried.
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Seriously, I would like to see the deal get done. Everyone will look bad if it doesn't. They have a looooong ways to go in a short time.
Be ready to sweat hard on this one.
<< <i> so if the Red Sox have shown Matsuzaka proper respect by giving him a fair and comprehensive offer (according to Lucchino, that's what it was) and the Red Sox are treating the Seibu Lions as an "partner" with regards to future deals and joint marketing promotions, then there is only one person left who might "dishonor" the process by dragging out the negotiations - Boras. Can he deal with being the sole reason a deal doesn't get done? I don't think so. >>
Jerry,
Have you followed Scott Boras's career? Trust me, he cares about ONE THING and ONE THING ONLY. To extract every god damn penny possible out of a team for his client in which he wields much power with future prospective clients. Scott Boras does not and will never give a rats stinking a$$ about what any team might consider a "fair offer". And you better believe he as "D-Mats" ear all filled up with his propaganda and has been working on him for quite some time. It is easy to see that Boras will be letting everybody know that the "dis-honor" will be on the Red Sox and nobody else. He will drive home the point about how dishonorable it was for the Red Sox to pony up BIG TIME MONEY to "D-Mats" former team only to offer "D-Mat" himself less money.
This deal will not be done for under $100 million including that posting bid. You all watch
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Buck Foras
<< <i>He's a greedy, slimeball agent who actually makes Rosenhaus look like a nice guy.
>>
Well yes,
And the only HONOR that Scott Boras cares about is the HONOR showed to his clients wallet. He does not care about anything else ..... NOTHING. He has made a name for himself, he has made quite a career for himself, and he signs up client after client after client no matter how much the media accuratley portrays him as a leech to a teams funds. Why? Because he shows his clients THE MONEY better then anybody else.
There is no way Boras lets the Red Sox off easy with that 51 million dollar posting bid they put up.
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