Worst logic display I've ever seen.......

keoj

This person would never win on a debate team......read second and third paragraph in description. I love the reasoning.....

Enjoy,

keoj

Display of irrefutable logic

sweetwilliet

At least he convinced one person his logic is sound, himself.

Petescorner

It would make a nice belt buckle, great conversation piece in addition to a beautiful pendant.

And how exactly would that "great conversation" go?

"Hey Joe! That's pretty cool! What is it?"

"Some cheap coin copy that I picked up on eBay."

"Uh, ok."

ziggy29

Nice logic. Depends on what your definition of "is" is.

sweetwilliet

Is he saying he doesn't think the law for counterfeits applies to his coin because it doesn't have copy stamped on it?? Huh??

shirohniichan

Too bad there's no photo of the reverse. I'd like to add a type 1/2 reverse to my collection.

coinguy1

I sent this to him:

"Dear sir,

You are correct, it's not a copy, just a counterfeit/fake and should be listed as such."

robertpr

I believe he is right that the coin does not need to be stamped as a copy because no pieces were produced of that date. Technically, it's a "fantasy strike".

However, he is dead wrong about there having been no "intent to decieve".

StrikeOutXXX

<< <i>Is he saying he doesn't think the law for counterfeits applies to his coin because it doesn't have copy stamped on it?? Huh?? >>



I think his crazy logic tells him that the 1870-S trade dollar was never officially produced, therefore there is no need for "Copy" since there is no original...

However, coinfacts shows approximately 10 known, so who knows if it needs it or not.

At least he cares about the "integrity and artistry of the piece"

ziggy29

<< <i>I think his crazy logic tells him that the 1870-S trade dollar was never officially produced, therefore there is no need for "Copy" since there is no original...

However, coinfacts shows approximately 10 known, so who knows if it needs it or not. >>

You're thinking of 1870-S Seated Dollars, not Trade Dollars. The latter weren't made until 1873, of course.

He's saying that this coin isn't a "copy" because there were no real 1870-S Trade Dollars to "copy." And therefore it doesn't need to have "COPY" stamped on it.

keoj

Is there a lawyer in the house?

StrikeOutXXX

Aah crap, now he has my logic all screwed up too - yup, I got sidetracked with the Steelers game.

notlogical

This is my kind of thread.

RichieURich

And some of you wondered what Clinton's lawyers were doing now.

Coinosaurus

Not even collectable as a fake......

Conder101

He just might be right about his statement that the Hobby Protection Act might not apply because there never was any such coin, but if that is true the piece is still illegal under US code Title 18 Sec 489. That section make illegal possession with intent to sell of any "token, disk, or device in the likeness or similitude as to design, color, or the inscription thereof of any of the coins of the United States or of any foreign country issued as money either under the authority of the United States or under the authority of any foreign government. . . "

Even though no 1870-S trade dollars were ever struck, it would still qualify under the similitude description which means that it doesn't have to be an exact copy, "close" is good enough to make it illegal.

ccr

Woah, it isn`t a copy! Narly dude!

richardshipp

Maybe its a not "real issued coin" like say.................................. a 1913 Liberty Nickel?

saintguru

meanwhile clw54 is bidding on it!

Go get him Chuck!!

DesertRat

He doesn't show the reverse because the reverse is probably blank. Will be interesting to see.

CaptHenway

Well, I took the time to report all the other counterfeits he had listed. Let's see what happens.
TD

Shamika

<< <i>There has never been a 1870-S Trade Dollar Minted by any US Mint therefore this can not be considered a copy. >>


There is some truth to this logic.

RichieURich

<< <i>Well, I took the time to report all the other counterfeits he had listed. Let's see what happens.
TD >>



Thanks, Tom!

P. S. I reported an eBay seller yesterday who had for sale 3 counterfeit Seated dollars and a counterfeit 1885 Trade dollar. He said "I don't know that they're counterfeit." So I told him how to tell and he didn't reply. So I notified eBay and his items are now all gone!

TwoSides2aCoin

ya know what sucks now...


us folks who know these are going to want them as teaching tools and a mini bidding war is gonna start ...


watch Laura win this one