<< <i> The hater is back. Looks like you still reaching for straws knocking on a guy who kept his position and has shown he can get it done with the pressure on, unlike your mancrush Errod. >>
Yes, an MVP season last year just SCREAMS 'I can't handle the pressure!' Get a clue.
<< <i>"DH is a position just like any other - and Ortiz plays that position as well as anyone ever has. Don't hate the player, hate the DH rule."
You weren't saying this last season. >>
What's this have to do with Ortiz being a vastly better hitter than your man crush jeter?
<< <i>" How many times has Manny ran over to center, called off the center fielder, let the ball drop, and, instead of playing the dropped ball, glared at the center fielder? Never, but jeter's done it at least once on tape with Arod."
Like the CF, the SS has "rights" over those who play besides them on plays. Just like a catcher does over the corner infielders. Errod didn't fall back and who made the error? Errod, of course. >>
As expected, the point sailed completely over your head. The poster wanted to knock Manny for going into the wall to use the restroom and essentially calling him unprofessional on one play - if that's the case, one could call jeter unprofessional for letting his pettiness about the error get in the way of making a play.
Jete's hitting .444 with the bases juiced, .390 with RISP, .388 with RISP and 2 outs, and .355 with runners on. With men on and 2 outs he's batting .380, with a man on third and less than 2 outs Jete's batting .467.
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<< <i>Jete's hitting .444 with the bases juiced, .390 with RISP, .388 with RISP and 2 outs, and .355 with runners on. With men on and 2 outs he's batting .380, with a man on third and less than 2 outs Jete's batting .467. >>
Your point is?
I'd be willing to bet if you cut those numbers in half, the yankees would have roughly the same number of wins as they do now.
Sure they would. Take out the catalyst and YEAH, they'll be exactly the same out there.
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"I'd be willing to bet if you cut those numbers in half, the yankees would have roughly the same number of wins as they do now."
I don't know how it could be quantified but my guess is the Yankees would be at least 5 games worse off. Of course a lot would depend on who Jeter's replacement would be.
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<< <i>Jete's hitting .444 with the bases juiced, .390 with RISP, .388 with RISP and 2 outs, and .355 with runners on. With men on and 2 outs he's batting .380, with a man on third and less than 2 outs Jete's batting .467. >>
Your point is?
I'd be willing to bet if you cut those numbers in half, the yankees would have roughly the same number of wins as they do now. >>
Yet you continuously claim how Arods importance and value meant the difference in wins and losses last year. Flip flopping your way to credibility again I see.
"The other teams could make trouble for us if they win." -- Yogi Berra
<< <i> Yet you continuously claim how Arods importance and value meant the difference in wins and losses last year. Flip flopping your way to credibility again I see. >>
<< <i> Yet you continuously claim how Arods importance and value meant the difference in wins and losses last year. Flip flopping your way to credibility again I see. >>
Please tell me where I've ever made such a claim.
I'll wait. >>
Im not going to endlessly search threads to show exactly where you said it, but I know and others know, and you cant possibly argue that you have stated numerous times that Arods numbers meant the difference in wins and losses last year. Every time an Arod debate comes up you rant on about him being MVP last year and what that meant to the Yankees. Plain and simple, if you defend him by saying that, you are claiming he meant the difference in wins and losses. Otherwise the only conclusion we can all finally agree on here, once and for all is that the MVP award and Arods numbers last year meant nothing.
If you dissagree then you must also state emphatically that if Arod had not been on the team they would have been exactly in the same place they ended up at. No way around it, period.
"The other teams could make trouble for us if they win." -- Yogi Berra
Manny is "worthless"? You latch onto one little thing that is so insignificant in the grand scheme of things (he does run behind the Monster once in a while like many players who have played left field in Boston have always done during breaks in the game, and yes once a pitch was thrown - sound the alarm!!!) and say he's worthless? One of the best RBI producers in baseball history, and he's worthless. Okay, you are not exactly an astute baseball observer, this we can see. >>
If Manny is so great, how come every time he cries about not being wanted or appreciated there are no takers? sure he can drive in runs, but thats it, he's a mental case and a big selfish baby. I love the way the sox fans will defend a true ahole like Manny, must be somethin in the chowdah they serve at the ball park
<< <i>
And, you really want Manny and Ortiz to bunt? Are you insane, man? You clearly are the one with the lack of baseball knowledge, if you actually believe that is a good strategy - but, I guess you don't watch the Sox much. Big Papi has bunted many times, against the shift they employ against him, and he even has several hits this way. But, when you have two of the best power hitters in the game today in your lineup, I can't imagine anyone thinking that they should be playing small ball and bunting runners over. Does Sheffield do that? What an absolutely ridiculous concept. >>
I never said i wanted them to bunt, i was trying to point out that neither of them do ANY of the other things that are associated with a complete and well rounded ball player. And my beef isn't with Big Papi, he's a stud, but thru no fault of his own since he plays in the AL, he's just a DH, thats it, why doesn't he make the effort to become a complete ballplayer?, now i'd take him in a heartbeat as the DH for the yanks, but we were trying to compare true value to a franchise/team.
<< <i> Diving in to the stands is a sign of greatness, now? Well, when you play left field like Ramirez does, you don't have the same opportunity to go crowd diving, but he clearly fields his position. The average fan eats those kind of plays that Jeter made when he dove into the stands up like halloween candy, but while it was a nice play, it really doesn't mean jack in this context. I've seen Manny dive for balls hit to him as well, so what? That's what good defensive players do. And, Ortiz is primarily a DH, so yes, Jeter is a better defensive player than him. Great point! >>
Oh please, Manny won't even wear pants that fit correctly, much less dive into stands. Manny lives in his own little self centered world (much like most red sox fans), as a regular joe, how on earth can you defend Manny's attitude/playing style/way he presents himself to the world.
<< <i> And, to use the words "mentally retarded" in this context is childish and insensitive. I can't imagine even the Yankee fans coming to your defense here. >>
Last time i checked mentally retarded was a valid term or explanation for someone with limited mental capacities, neither childish nor insensitive. Quit hugging the trees
<< <i>If anyone really honestly thinks that you could take Jeter out of the lineup and replace him with your run of the mill shortstop and that the yankees wouldn't skip a beat, there can be only 2 theory's why someone would think that
A: they don't know sh*t about the game of baseball B: they are mentally retarded >>
<< <i> I think you are the one with mental deficiencies, clown. >>
Actually Axtell its been proven over and over again that you are the one thats deficient, did that touch a nerve
<< <i>The things he does day in and day out makes other players look like bush leaguers. How many times do you see "Manny" or "Big Papi" hustle down to first on a ground out? - Never, When do you see Manny or Big Papi drop down a sac bunt to move the runner over? Never >>
<< <i>If I saw Manny or Ortiz drop down a bunt I'd kick them in the heads myself - they don't have to hit that way, they can crush the ball (unlike that lady playing short in NY). >>
Once again, you missed the point, and left out the first point, when's the last time you saw Manny hustle on anything? I don't want them bunting, i'm trying to point out features that make a player a complete ballplayer, not just a homer machine
<< <i>When do you see Manny or Big Papi head into the stands to grab a pop up - Never >>
<< <i>Uhm Ortiz is a DH, Manny is a left fielder...how many times are they going to have the opportunity to do that? >>
Ortiz is a DH, REALLY????, you mean he doesn't play a position or contribute anything other than a big stick?? WOW Axtell, your a genius Manny plays left field - ohmygod, your right!, i see him hustling all the time, hustling ho's, hustling snacks, hustling naps in the left field corner, the point is Manny never gives any more effort than he has to, never
<< <i>Now, i like Big Papi as a DH, and he's as clutch as they come, but he's not a complete ballplayer, if he was he'd be at first or in one of the corners in the outfield. >>
<< <i>DH is a position just like any other - and Ortiz plays that position as well as anyone ever has. Don't hate the player, hate the DH rule. >>
DH is just that, the DH, not hating the player nor the position, but it limits a player ability to show all their skills on the field
<< <i>And Manny is basically worthless other than his tremendous bat and hitting ability, how many times has Jeter snuck off behind the sign in Fenway and missed a pitch in a game? Never, Manny - at least once on tape. >>
<< <i>How many times has Manny ran over to center, called off the center fielder, let the ball drop, and, instead of playing the dropped ball, glared at the center fielder? Never, but jeter's done it at least once on tape with Arod. >>
How many chances does Manny get in the field during a game? Not as many as the shortstop. How involved is he in positioning defenses? Not at all, someone from the dugout has to tell him where to play on hitters, How many double plays does he start or finish? How many times has Manny not hustled to get to a ball he could gotten to? - Many times on tape - How many times has Manny threatened not to finish out his contract, or ask to be traded because things weren't going Manny's way - Many times on tape, in print
<< <i>The Jeter bias is amazing >>
<< <i> You're right...the jeter jock sniffers would have you believe he's the best player in baseball (he 'knows' how to win!) but those with a grasp on reality realize he's an above average shortstop who hits for good average and little to no power. >>
Axtell, you are a complete and total idiot, do you even watch baseball, or god forbid ever played competitively. If Jeters an average shortstop, then your a PH.D
I would trust Proctor if they just let him rest his arm. He has made more appearances than anyone else in the majors. This would have been a great opportunity to allow Proctor to get more rest...especially now that they have the 40 man rosters now.
As far as Farnsworth goes, he is fine as long as he doesnt pitch back to back days. When they give him a day's rest he looks untouchable. Unfortunately, Yankees need more than that from him...hopefully they can get by!
I think you are being very optimistic. Believe me, I hope for their sake youre right, but Im not holding my breath no matter how much rest either of them get.
"The other teams could make trouble for us if they win." -- Yogi Berra
I should have also mentioned...I dont think I am understanding why Mike Myers isnt used more often. He is very effective against both righties and lefties. He goes in for one or two batters and taken out. He did some excellent middle relief for the Red Sox and it doesnt seem like he has lost it.
Maybe optomistic but I really think Torre has overused Proctor. Velocity is still there but a lot of pitches look flat when they didnt look flat the first half of the season.
I totally agree that Torre has overused Proctor. Torre has been the single worst culprit among managers for years now in overusing pitchers. Just look at the numbers. Year after year it is Yankee setup men who lead the league in appearances. Stanton and Nelson, to Gordon, to Proctor and Farnsworth this year.
I know some people will argue that the reason other teams pitchers dont lead this category is that they dont have reliable guys they can go to, and that they shuffle pitchers in those spots. That may be true to an extent but Torre certainly stretches one or two guys out every year.
"The other teams could make trouble for us if they win." -- Yogi Berra
Torre has over used Proctor and Farnsworth. It is his MO to do this. Torre finds it very hard to gain trust in his late inning relievers. Lately he has used them more spareingly and it would do wonders for the Yankee pen if Octavio Dotel gets more consistant before October. Torre was really spoiled with Stanton, Nelson, and Rivera once upon a time. Stanton and Nelson could pitch 140 games if they wanted to in those years ....
I see that Jeter is now the league leader in batting average. And is having an mvp type year. Mauer is falling fast. Dye will also get a few votes as well.
Does Wang have a shot at the Cy Young if he's the only 20-game winner in the AL? Right now, I think Santana is the odds-on favorite, but it's a weak field this year.
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<< <i>Does Wang have a shot at the Cy Young if he's the only 20-game winner in the AL? Right now, I think Santana is the odds-on favorite, but it's a weak field this year. >>
Not being a strikeout pitcher will give him practically zero chance even if he gets to 20. He just doesnt put up those "sexy" numbers that the voters & fans like.
"The other teams could make trouble for us if they win." -- Yogi Berra
I agree with that. Santana has the 200 KOs and the ERA under 3.00. too. Boy, has pitching changed these days, both these guys have a total of only 3 complete games between them and only 1 shutout all season. I remember Seaver would sometimes have 3 complete games and a shutout in a good month.
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<< <i>I agree with that. Santana has the 200 KOs and the ERA under 3.00. too. Boy, has pitching changed these days, both these guys have a total of only 3 complete games between them and only 1 shutout all season. I remember Seaver would sometimes have 3 complete games and a shutout in a good month. >>
You got that right ! I remember Guidry completing nearly every game he started years ago.
Great link, bri, thanks for sharing! Fernando with 32 CGs over a 2-year span in '86-'87, wow that screwball worked wonders for a while! Wonder why he never really captured the glory after that sensational rookie season, even though he stuck around for a while. I remember when he first came up and ripping '81 wax as a kid trying to pull that Dodgers future stars!
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Well, I am very HAPPY to see that Wang will be getting the nod in game one of the divisional series. That sets him up for a game 5 too. How about a beer for Wang's sinker doing its thing!
<< <i>Well, I am very HAPPY to see that Wang will be getting the nod in game one of the divisional series. That sets him up for a game 5 too. How about a beer for Wang's sinker doing its thing! >>
Wang is the only starter I trust going into the postseason. Johnson is done....Mussina, well, that hard fastball and sweet changeup he was dominating with early this year are gone, so he will be shaky. For them to win it all it'll have to be be outhitting the opponent.
P.S. They shoulda brought El Duque back.
"The other teams could make trouble for us if they win." -- Yogi Berra
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<< <i>
The hater is back. Looks like you still reaching for straws knocking on a guy who kept his position and has shown he can get it done with the pressure on, unlike your mancrush Errod.
>>
Yes, an MVP season last year just SCREAMS 'I can't handle the pressure!' Get a clue.
<< <i>"DH is a position just like any other - and Ortiz plays that position as well as anyone ever has. Don't hate the player, hate the DH rule."
You weren't saying this last season. >>
What's this have to do with Ortiz being a vastly better hitter than your man crush jeter?
<< <i>" How many times has Manny ran over to center, called off the center fielder, let the ball drop, and, instead of playing the dropped ball, glared at the center fielder? Never, but jeter's done it at least once on tape with Arod."
Like the CF, the SS has "rights" over those who play besides them on plays. Just like a catcher does over the corner infielders. Errod didn't fall back and who made the error? Errod, of course. >>
As expected, the point sailed completely over your head. The poster wanted to knock Manny for going into the wall to use the restroom and essentially calling him unprofessional on one play - if that's the case, one could call jeter unprofessional for letting his pettiness about the error get in the way of making a play.
Get it?
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<< <i>Jete's hitting .444 with the bases juiced, .390 with RISP, .388 with RISP and 2 outs, and .355 with runners on. With men on and 2 outs he's batting .380, with a man on third and less than 2 outs Jete's batting .467. >>
Your point is?
I'd be willing to bet if you cut those numbers in half, the yankees would have roughly the same number of wins as they do now.
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I don't know how it could be quantified but my guess is the Yankees would be at least 5 games worse off. Of course a lot would depend on who Jeter's replacement would be.
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<< <i>
<< <i>Jete's hitting .444 with the bases juiced, .390 with RISP, .388 with RISP and 2 outs, and .355 with runners on. With men on and 2 outs he's batting .380, with a man on third and less than 2 outs Jete's batting .467. >>
Your point is?
I'd be willing to bet if you cut those numbers in half, the yankees would have roughly the same number of wins as they do now. >>
Yet you continuously claim how Arods importance and value meant the difference in wins and losses last year. Flip flopping your way to credibility again I see.
-- Yogi Berra
<< <i>
Yet you continuously claim how Arods importance and value meant the difference in wins and losses last year. Flip flopping your way to credibility again I see. >>
Please tell me where I've ever made such a claim.
I'll wait.
<< <i>
<< <i>
Yet you continuously claim how Arods importance and value meant the difference in wins and losses last year. Flip flopping your way to credibility again I see. >>
Please tell me where I've ever made such a claim.
I'll wait. >>
Im not going to endlessly search threads to show exactly where you said it, but I know and others know, and you cant possibly argue that you have stated numerous times that Arods numbers meant the difference in wins and losses last year. Every time an Arod debate comes up you rant on about him being MVP last year and what that meant to the Yankees. Plain and simple, if you defend him by saying that, you are claiming he meant the difference in wins and losses. Otherwise the only conclusion we can all finally agree on here, once and for all is that the MVP award and Arods numbers last year meant nothing.
If you dissagree then you must also state emphatically that if Arod had not been on the team they would have been exactly in the same place they ended up at. No way around it, period.
-- Yogi Berra
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<< <i>
gfb, you have got to be kidding me.
Manny is "worthless"? You latch onto one little thing that is so insignificant in the grand scheme of things (he does run behind the Monster once in a while like many players who have played left field in Boston have always done during breaks in the game, and yes once a pitch was thrown - sound the alarm!!!) and say he's worthless? One of the best RBI producers in baseball history, and he's worthless. Okay, you are not exactly an astute baseball observer, this we can see. >>
If Manny is so great, how come every time he cries about not being wanted or appreciated there are no takers?
sure he can drive in runs, but thats it, he's a mental case and a big selfish baby. I love the way the sox fans will defend a true ahole like Manny, must be somethin in the chowdah they serve at the ball park
<< <i>
And, you really want Manny and Ortiz to bunt? Are you insane, man? You clearly are the one with the lack of baseball knowledge, if you actually believe that is a good strategy - but, I guess you don't watch the Sox much. Big Papi has bunted many times, against the shift they employ against him, and he even has several hits this way. But, when you have two of the best power hitters in the game today in your lineup, I can't imagine anyone thinking that they should be playing small ball and bunting runners over. Does Sheffield do that? What an absolutely ridiculous concept. >>
I never said i wanted them to bunt, i was trying to point out that neither of them do ANY of the other things that are associated with a complete and well rounded ball player. And my beef isn't with Big Papi, he's a stud, but thru no fault of his own since he plays in the AL, he's just a DH, thats it, why doesn't he make the effort to become a complete ballplayer?, now i'd take him in a heartbeat as the DH for the yanks, but we were trying to compare true value to a franchise/team.
<< <i>
Diving in to the stands is a sign of greatness, now? Well, when you play left field like Ramirez does, you don't have the same opportunity to go crowd diving, but he clearly fields his position. The average fan eats those kind of plays that Jeter made when he dove into the stands up like halloween candy, but while it was a nice play, it really doesn't mean jack in this context. I've seen Manny dive for balls hit to him as well, so what? That's what good defensive players do. And, Ortiz is primarily a DH, so yes, Jeter is a better defensive player than him. Great point!
>>
Oh please, Manny won't even wear pants that fit correctly, much less dive into stands. Manny lives in his own little self centered world (much like most red sox fans), as a regular joe, how on earth can you defend Manny's attitude/playing style/way he presents himself to the world.
<< <i>
And, to use the words "mentally retarded" in this context is childish and insensitive.
I can't imagine even the Yankee fans coming to your defense here. >>
Last time i checked mentally retarded was a valid term or explanation for someone with limited mental capacities, neither childish nor insensitive. Quit hugging the trees
<< <i>If anyone really honestly thinks that you could take Jeter out of the lineup and replace him with your run of the mill shortstop and that the yankees wouldn't skip a beat, there can be only 2 theory's why someone would think that
A: they don't know sh*t about the game of baseball
B: they are mentally retarded
>>
<< <i>
I think you are the one with mental deficiencies, clown.
>>
Actually Axtell its been proven over and over again that you are the one thats deficient, did that touch a nerve
<< <i>The things he does day in and day out makes other players look like bush leaguers. How many times do you see "Manny" or "Big Papi" hustle down to first on a ground out? - Never, When do you see Manny or Big Papi drop down a sac bunt to move the runner over? Never >>
<< <i>If I saw Manny or Ortiz drop down a bunt I'd kick them in the heads myself - they don't have to hit that way, they can crush the ball (unlike that lady playing short in NY).
>>
Once again, you missed the point, and left out the first point, when's the last time you saw Manny hustle on anything?
I don't want them bunting, i'm trying to point out features that make a player a complete ballplayer, not just a homer machine
<< <i>When do you see Manny or Big Papi head into the stands to grab a pop up - Never >>
<< <i>Uhm Ortiz is a DH, Manny is a left fielder...how many times are they going to have the opportunity to do that?
>>
Ortiz is a DH, REALLY????, you mean he doesn't play a position or contribute anything other than a big stick?? WOW Axtell, your a genius
Manny plays left field - ohmygod, your right!, i see him hustling all the time, hustling ho's, hustling snacks, hustling naps in the left field corner, the point is Manny never gives any more effort than he has to, never
<< <i>Now, i like Big Papi as a DH, and he's as clutch as they come, but he's not a complete ballplayer, if he was he'd be at first or in one of the corners in the outfield. >>
<< <i>DH is a position just like any other - and Ortiz plays that position as well as anyone ever has. Don't hate the player, hate the DH rule.
>>
DH is just that, the DH, not hating the player nor the position, but it limits a player ability to show all their skills on the field
<< <i>And Manny is basically worthless other than his tremendous bat and hitting ability, how many times has Jeter snuck off behind the sign in Fenway and missed a pitch in a game? Never, Manny - at least once on tape. >>
<< <i>How many times has Manny ran over to center, called off the center fielder, let the ball drop, and, instead of playing the dropped ball, glared at the center fielder? Never, but jeter's done it at least once on tape with Arod.
>>
How many chances does Manny get in the field during a game? Not as many as the shortstop. How involved is he in positioning defenses? Not at all, someone from the dugout has to tell him where to play on hitters, How many double plays does he start or finish? How many times has Manny not hustled to get to a ball he could gotten to? - Many times on tape - How many times has Manny threatened not to finish out his contract, or ask to be traded because things weren't going Manny's way - Many times on tape, in print
<< <i>The Jeter bias is amazing >>
<< <i>
You're right...the jeter jock sniffers would have you believe he's the best player in baseball (he 'knows' how to win!) but those with a grasp on reality realize he's an above average shortstop who hits for good average and little to no power. >>
Axtell, you are a complete and total idiot, do you even watch baseball, or god forbid ever played competitively. If Jeters an average shortstop, then your a PH.D
-- Yogi Berra
As far as Farnsworth goes, he is fine as long as he doesnt pitch back to back days. When they give him a day's rest he looks untouchable. Unfortunately, Yankees need more than that from him...hopefully they can get by!
I think you are being very optimistic. Believe me, I hope for their sake youre right, but Im not holding my breath no matter how much rest either of them get.
-- Yogi Berra
Maybe optomistic but I really think Torre has overused Proctor. Velocity is still there but a lot of pitches look flat when they didnt look flat the first half of the season.
I know some people will argue that the reason other teams pitchers dont lead this category is that they dont have reliable guys they can go to, and that they shuffle pitchers in those spots. That may be true to an extent but Torre certainly stretches one or two guys out every year.
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having an mvp type year. Mauer is falling fast. Dye will also get a few votes as well.
jeter has been clutch all season long.
Steve
<< <i>Did I ever mention to you fellas that I dont really care for the Yankees? >>
Probably as often as we'll mention how much we enjoy your Yankee icon come next month
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He pitched a nice game today. I didnt figure on him getting too much run support with Torre giving half the team the day off.
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<< <i>Does Wang have a shot at the Cy Young if he's the only 20-game winner in the AL? Right now, I think Santana is the odds-on favorite, but it's a weak field this year. >>
Not being a strikeout pitcher will give him practically zero chance even if he gets to 20. He just doesnt put up those "sexy" numbers that the voters & fans like.
-- Yogi Berra
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<< <i>I agree with that. Santana has the 200 KOs and the ERA under 3.00. too. Boy, has pitching changed these days, both these guys have a total of only 3 complete games between them and only 1 shutout all season. I remember Seaver would sometimes have 3 complete games and a shutout in a good month. >>
You got that right ! I remember Guidry completing nearly every game he started years ago.
Check out this link for complete games stats.....
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-- Yogi Berra
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240
<< <i>Well, I am very HAPPY to see that Wang will be getting the nod in game one of the divisional series. That sets him up for a game 5 too. How about a beer for Wang's sinker doing its thing!
Wang is the only starter I trust going into the postseason. Johnson is done....Mussina, well, that hard fastball and sweet changeup he was dominating with early this year are gone, so he will be shaky. For them to win it all it'll have to be be outhitting the opponent.
P.S. They shoulda brought El Duque back.
-- Yogi Berra