Widget or Not.......1915-S G$1 Panama-Pacific Gold Dollar MS66

karpman9

Hello,

I have an opportunity to purchase a 1915-S G$1 Panama-Pacific Gold Dollar MS66 PCGS, a coin which I find breathtaking in every way, shape and form. This little gold coin packs a huge visual wallop and makes me smile ear to ear! It's not an inexpensive coin however, so I'm curious:

Widget, or not a widget?

Thanks for your comments.

Ps: I'll post the scans when I receive them, sometime tomorrow.

kiyote

MS66? Coins like that tend to sit in collector's hands... I'd say a non-widget, especially if there's no copper spots. The cap on those are really prone to marks, so there's not a lot of 66s out there.

EDIT, ok, so there's like 600 some, but I still say if it's a widget but it sets your heart aflutter, take it!

mcheath

not a widget.

Outhaul

Most classic commems are NOT widgets by another's definition.

RYK

...many gold coins are more widget-like than copper, nickel and silver ones.



I have an opportunity to purchase a 1915-S G$1 Panama-Pacific Gold Dollar MS66 PCGS, a coin which I find breathtaking in every way, shape and form.

Who cares what we think? If you like it as much as you say, buy it.

BillJones

This "widget" stuff is getting to be overdone when one questions whether or not a high grade classic commeorative coin can be labeled as such. I don't know what is driving this. Some of my speculations might cause a fuss, so I shall remain quiet for the time being.

No, I would not consider a Pan-Pac gold dollar that is attractive for its true Mint State grade to be "a widget."

orie

Of them all, it's my favorite design on a US coin. Not a widget.

Cladiator

<< <i>makes me smile ear to ear! >>

As a general rule of thumb if a coin makes you say that, buy it. You'll most likely regret not getting it. Widget, Non-Widget, Wudget, Non-Wudget, Wohget, Non-Wohget....call it what you like but call it yours if it really clicks with you.

IGWT

-- "Widget, or not a widget?" --

Irrelevant.

topstuf

<< <i>so I shall remain quiet for the time being. >>



Unspoken eloquence.

TwoSides2aCoin

Buy it ! All coins are widgets. Some just cost more than others.
It's just like people.... all people are humans.... Eunuchs are rare nowadays, though.

karpman9

After doing search of the forum archives, I have come to understand how and why the term *widget* has come to life and its original condescending connotation.


As such, I rather like the plethora of widgets in my collection and I'll update you to the status of my purchase. I may opt out of 66 and go for a 63, decisions, decisions.

FatMan

I hate the term so I will not use it. Early gold commems are under appreciated by the collector community and are not rare by any stretch of the imagination. However, Pan Pac gold dollars are a bit more popular because of their relationship to the big brothers which are out of reach of most collectors. in 66 the piece is likely to be of nice quality and if you like the design or are putting together a set it would be a good grade to purchase. And since you have presented this piece as a Smile Coin, how can you go wrong. Loving the piece is more important than pops, rarity, or anything else.

TwoSides2aCoin

<< <i>After doing search of the forum archives, I have come to understand how and why the term *widget* has come to life and its original condescending connotation.
>>




Good eye Jeff. I hoped that you would sense the sarcasm in my first post. I've been saying the same thing since I got here with widgets, wannabes, and a few other terms.... Such is the case when the rich have to sit with the poor at the dinner table, huh ?
I'd take the 66 still. It's going to have clean surfaces where the 63 is going to be dinged up pretty good. The 66 will hold its value and probably increase in value much more than a 63, btw.


Joe

NumisOxide

<< <i>Loving the piece is more important than pops, rarity, or anything else. >>


Very well said FatMan.

Outhaul

I too detest the term. I am aware of its origin, and all I can say about it is it figures.

To think along the lines of every coin that you can't make a fortune on as being a widget, or has a grade pop of any more than three being a widget, or do not appeal to your narrow customer base are the rantings of an idiot.

Collect what you like and enjoy it.

CommemDude

I agree with the idea that you should buy what appeals to you, whether it's a white or colored coin, whether there are a few or hundreds, etc. But part of the decision-making process is value, and with the recent run up of prices and the high pops for gold commems, I have been hesitant to jump into this area to complete my set.

DickyBetz

There is no such thing as widgets.

Jcarney

<< <i>I too detest the term. I am aware of its origin, and all I can say about it is it figures.

To think along the lines of every coin that you can't make a fortune on as being a widget, or has a grade pop of any more than three being a widget, or do not appeal to your narrow customer base are the rantings of an idiot.

Collect what you like and enjoy it. >>



POTY

CoinRaritiesOnline

<< <i>Collect what you like and enjoy it. >>



I think this sentence says it all.

I also really dislike the term, "widget".

I have been told by some folks on this board that it is not meant to be derogatory, but I can't help thinking that it somehow is.

What if we in the coin community decided to come up with a label for a type of coin ( let's choose: Pattern Coins, so as not to offend too many people). Let's say we all started to call Pattern Coins:

"Scum sucking puss-bag coins," instead of "patterns". As in, "Hey, I just picked up a Judd-1776 scum sucking puss-bag coin. I'm pretty excited about it, since I have been wanting one all of my collecting life."

But -- we all as group insisted that we didn't mean it in a derogatory way. I STILL think that many people would take offense to this new term.

But maybe it is just me.


If someone wants to accumulate 1880-S Morgan Dollars in PCGS MS-61 because it make them happy, I say -- More power to them! This hobby is supposed to be about having fun. I hope we always remember that.

ms71

A beautiful coin - one of my favorites in the commem. series.

CoinRaritiesOnline

No -- I don't think ANY collectible coin should be called a widget. If you showed me an MS-62 1924 Saint when I was an 11 year old collector, I would have had trouble sleeping that night from the thrill of simply holding it.

I hope I never lose my wonder at looking at an interesting collectible coin. Even if a particular coin didn't thrill me anymore, why would I want to risk spoiling someone else's experience by calling it a widget?

oreville

<< <i>huge visual wallop and makes me smile ear to ear! >>



I think you answered your own question.

The huge visual wallop and superior quality of the coin is remembered long after the price is forgotten!

But it never hurts to get a second opinion from another expert as to the quality of the coin just in case you are not an expert in this series.

I certainly am not an expert in this area and wouldn't hestitate paying another trusted dealer for a few minutes of his time.

orie

It's a realitive term. To Bill Gates they would all be widgets.

Leiana

<< <i>It's a realitive term. To Bill Gates they would all be widgets. >>



My teacher said that it would be a waste of money for Bill Gates to bend down and pick up a 1000 dollar bill.

-Amanda