So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
"Not going to go on the guaranteed, but overall contract he will get more coin than Williams."
Not only did you attempt to qualify the bet, you used totally different terms in one sentence believing as usual that you are knowledgeable. "Overall contract" is all the money, not just salary.
I've tried, yawnie.. Oh lord, how I've tried. Tinkerbell followed me to several threads and kept instigating yet I resisted the bait and kept on keeping on.
When she yapped that Bush was going to get more money than the #1 pick, I told her to put her money where her mouth was. I have limited this "discussion", if you can cal it that, to this thread only, since it is on topic.
I have come to realize that even if she did accept the original bet, Tinkerbell would probably welch out of it and claim a mass conspiracy involving the twin towers or something. Therefore, it's all moot anyways...
<< <i>One of the sources took that a step further, saying Segal was considering not having Bush sign at all. Segal declined to comment when contacted Friday and messages left with multiple members of the New Orleans organization weren't returned.
While it appears unlikely on face value that Bush would sit out, he appears well-positioned to do so if he really wants.
Bush supposedly has more than $5 million in the bank from multiple endorsement deals Ornstein has negotiated since Bush left the University of Southern California. That money is guaranteed regardless of whether Bush plays this season.
Next, Bush could probably sit out 2006 and still be a high pick next year. >>
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
And to further elaborate on why Bush shouldn't get more money is because he will be setting a precedent for lower picks.
Regardless of how much hype a player gets, your draft position is your draft position, period. By allowing lower picks to get more money than higher picks, you will see more and more hold outs because of egos. Because of Bush, it wouldn't surprise me if the NFL steps in and caps each pick. #1s get $x, #2s get $x, and so on and so forth.
And let's be honest here, it's all about Bush's ego being hurt and he wants to say that he makes more money than the real #1 pick. How much difference is there between $54M with a $26.5M guaranteed and a $52M with a $24M guarantee? It's all about his ego...
As it's said in Wall Street, "How many yachts can you ski behind?"
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
Are you including incentives or just base salary (excluding guaranteed)? Also, must the Saints sign him this year?
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
Looks like Tinkerbell ran away with her tail inbetween her legs, again.
Have a great time fantasizing about A-Rod on a weekend night, again.
Owned again and again and again and again...
Goodnight Tinkerbell
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
So I made an offer of a bet on total contract money, stownie refused, end of story.
No, he made an offer and you refused. And at that point it should have been the end of the story but you had to keep insisting that he changed the terms.
He made a ridiculous offer of a bet, I made a compromise. He wanted to keep as many provisions in as possible to swing the odds of the bet in his favor, he didn't relent, so he's the one who backed out.
Too bad you can't see that WP...stownie's a coward.
Even salary is guaranteed for first rounders and they get the max allowable under the CBA.
Most first rounders will not get signing bonuses this year. Other incentives are included based on performance.
So since salary is guaranteed, your offer on the bet is basically "let's see which guy get closer to nothing."
All money is the only way to go, just as you said when you agreed to "overall contract."
Profootballtalk.com info on Kamerion Wimbley contract with Browns -
As expected, there's no signing bonus. Due to complex nuances regarding the rookie pool and bonus proration, there won't be signing bonuses for most of the players drafted in round one.
Wimbley will receive a $1.096 million roster bonus in 2006 and a $6.731250 million option bonus in 2007, which is guaranteed by future salaries. There's a one-time so-called "falling off of the log" bonus of $850,000, based on the achievement of minimum playing time (usually 35 percent of the snaps). The "log" is also guaranteed by future salaries.
Also, the base salaries for 2006 ($275,000) and 2007 ($360,000) are fully guaranteed.
The total guaranteed money, then, is $9.31225 million.
<< <i>He made a ridiculous offer of a bet, I made a compromise. He wanted to keep as many provisions in as possible to swing the odds of the bet in his favor, he didn't relent, so he's the one who backed out. >>
Where are all of these provisions you keep talking about? If Bush signs with the Saints this year for $54,000,001 with a signing bonus of $26,500,001, you win.
I then asked you to clarify your bet to which you responded with "Too late stown...that ship's sailed". Tinkerbell, that's YOU backing out
<< <i>Too bad you can't see that WP...stownie's a coward. >>
That's probably the 10th time you have called me that, Tinkerbell. Where did you come up with that name, hmmm?
Oh that's right, it was Spammy!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
The unoriginal Tinkerbell strikes again
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
Why don't you clarify what exactly you mean by "total contract money". Are you including incentives or is it only base salary?
Oh yeah, "that ship's sailed" which means YOU are the one barking.. I mean backing out
+ =
Edited to add: Well what do you know, Tinkerbell decided to ignore her ownage on this thread and ran with her tail in between her legs to post on the open forum here.
Seems that regardless of where she posts, the responses are the same:
"I really thought it wasn't possible for Axtell to become even stupider, yet he easily achieves a new low with that bilge."
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
What were you calling me, Tinkerbell? Oh yeah it was...
"what, are you chickening out?" "or the forum will know what a crybaby you truly are." "so I will take that as you are too CHICKEN to accept the bet." "CHICKEN" "it's ok, we all know you're a whiny little wimp - your cowering from this bet just PROVES it." "Get lost, twerp. You're a fraud." "If you aren't saying yes to this bet, then be quiet little man." "chicken chit." "either accept it or chicken out." "you're being the coward here little man." "Get lost chicken chit." "Too bad stown's all talk and no action." "stownie's a coward."
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
Oh Tinkerbell won't reply in this thread because she got owned like a $5 crack whore
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
Bush has not denied reports that he's considering holding out until next year.
What an ego-driven little baby. Booo-hooo, I wasn't drafted #1 but I want #1 money. Boooo-hoooo, if I don't get it then I'm going to hold my breath until you give into my demands.
I'm so thankful we drafted someone that wants to play, not someone who cares more about commercials and endorsement deals
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
Since Tinkerbell keeps bringing up the proposed bet...
Fine, I'll take it.
1) Saints sign Bush this year for more than $54,000,000 with no guarantees, signing bonuses, and/or incentives (ie base salary only). 2) Loser must keep icon/avatar for the entire football season. Said icon/avatar cannot violate CU's policies.
Put up or shut up, Tinkerbell
PS: Here's your avatar
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
Maybe next time you want a bet you won't try to load it down with provisions that spin it into your favor. >>
BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Since I'm making sooooooo many provisions, why don't you explain your side? You say total contract dollars yet won't clarify it. If you include incentives, that could take 5 or 6 years to kick in.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Owned again and again and again and again......
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
"what, are you chickening out?" "or the forum will know what a crybaby you truly are." "so I will take that as you are too CHICKEN to accept the bet." "CHICKEN" "it's ok, we all know you're a whiny little wimp - your cowering from this bet just PROVES it." "Get lost, twerp. You're a fraud." "If you aren't saying yes to this bet, then be quiet little man." "chicken chit." "either accept it or chicken out." "you're being the coward here little man." "Get lost chicken chit." "Too bad stown's all talk and no action." "stownie's a coward."
Tinkerbell met kettle
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
I gave you countless times to accept the bet...and yet you ran and hid like a little girl.
Then you want to call me a coward because, after giving up on you, you want to desperately agree to it?
Sorry chumpzilla, I'm done. Now, quit ruining other threads with your petty, pathetic, desperate attention grabs...it makes you look more ridiculous than you already do.
Wipe that egg off your face, grab your bottle, and go get in bed. Your mommy will be up to tuck you in.
You are the only one bringing up the bet in other threads, Tinkerbell.
And by the way, I never ran away, like you. Everyone who reads this thread will see who the real coward is; it's all explained perfectly in black and white.
You know Bush isn't going to get paid more and it's just eating you up inside. You were proven wrong, again...
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
Look and see how many times I offered a straight up bet: most money ever. Being the yellow, cowardly punk you are, tried to throw in 'guaranteed money' and other such nonsense to turn the odds even more in your favor. I refused.
Then, days after the midnight deadline, YOU want to agree? No, buddy boy, you lose. Everyone can read the posts and see your cowardly ass running and hiding behind the guaranteed clause of your bet.
Look and see how many times I offered a straight up bet: most money ever. Being the yellow, cowardly punk you are, tried to throw in 'guaranteed money' and other such nonsense to turn the odds even more in your favor. I refused.
Then, days after the midnight deadline, YOU want to agree? No, buddy boy, you lose. Everyone can read the posts and see your cowardly ass running and hiding behind the guaranteed clause of your bet.
You're a chicken chit POS.
Get lost, chump. >>
That's because you refused to see how a NFL contract worked. I decided, regardless, that you would still be wrong. When called out, you ran like the little girl you are.
Keep calling me chicken yet you refuse to take the bet YOU offered.
BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Now not only are you Tinkerbell but also back out of wagers at the last moment.
Owned again and again and again and again...
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
No, moron, you are the one who didn't want to take a bet that wasn't even more in your favor than it already was.
How good are the odds that he WON'T sign the biggest overall contract in football history? You couldn't just take those odds, you simple minded twit, you had to say he was going to get the most guaranteed money, too.
You to essentially make it a no lose bet for you - sorry, dipchit, I don't play that.
Backing out of wagers? That would be you fairy lover. I made a straight up bet offer, you turned it down. YOU, sir, are a coward.
You are the one who fails to see how NFL contracts work.
You are the one who ran away with tail firmly planted in between your legs.
Nice try, Tinkerbell, and better luck next time
In other news, Bush's ego still refuses to come to its senses
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
No, IDIOT, you are the COWARD who refused time and again to take me up on a simple, 'total contract dollars' bet.
You have no honor, you have no integrity.
I am satisfied that I offered you a straight up bet many, many times...plenty of time to accept it, yet, like the worthless sack of crap you are, you refused. After I posted that I would no longer be accepting a bet from a POS like you, THEN you say 'ok let's bet'.
YOU are the weak, pathetic one. YOU are the one who ran and hid behind 'guaranteed money' clauses in the bet. You are worthless.
It's all there in black and white, so I'm not worried about how my wager was laid out. People with knowledge knew there were no major provisions as you so claim.
While I know you would rather use a blanket statement of "total contract dollars", NFL contracts aren't simple, like you, and have moving parts.
The truth hurts, huh Tinkerbell
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
The only thing that hurts are my sides at laughing at you, and your feeble and weak minded attempt to backtrack from chickening out from the bet. Then after I pull my offer to bet, you then get the nuts to agree to the terms.
That's akin to showing up to a high noon gunfight at 2pm. Go home junior, you've just been OWNED.
No, it's because that regardless of how you tried to spin the Contract, I knew that you would be wrong, as always
How come whenever they announce a contract, they include guaranteed money, Tinkerbell?
Oh why am I asking you. You are a simple minded chiwawa who doesn't understand NFL economics.
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
<< <i>Where exactly did stown say ok to this bet and you said too late?
I just read the thread and I can't find it.
all i can find is him stating a bet, you declining and countering.
then the back and forth on who is chicken etc.
maybe you can show me/us exavtly where stown agreed to the bet (under your terms) and you said no?
Steve >>
'exavtly' here is where stown the clown agreed, AFTER I said I was no longer interested:
<< <i>Saturday July 22, 2006 4:35 PM
Too late stown...that ship's sailed. >>
<< <i>Monday July 24, 2006 7:56 PM
Fine, I'll take it.
1) Saints sign Bush this year for more than $54,000,000 with no guarantees, signing bonuses, and/or incentives (ie base salary only). 2) Loser must keep icon/avatar for the entire football season. Said icon/avatar cannot violate CU's policies. >>
But you never defined what "total contract dollars" meant, Tinkerbell. That's the whole point.. I never agreed to your simple minded, blanket statement. I put posted it in black and white with the exact, specific terms which you refused to do (and in fact, still haven't done). It could have included incentives that wouldn't kick in for another 3 or 4 years for crying out loud.
Who is the one that declined the original bet? It was you.
Who is the one that changed the bet yet never elaborated? Again, it was you.
Who is the one that decided to run away from this thread? What do you know, it was you.
Who is Tinkerbell? Surprise, surprise, surprise... It's you!
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
Who is the one that declined the original bet? It was you. <- FACT
Who is the one that changed the bet yet never elaborated? Again, it was you. <- FACT
Who is the one that decided to run away from this thread? What do you know, it was you. <- FACT
Who is Tinkerbell? Surprise, surprise, surprise... It's you! <- FACT
I'm excited to see my hometown team playing this year. Can you say that, Tinkerbell?
Oh and another fact, our #1 draft choice will be playing the first day of training camp.
The #2 pick? Well, he's too busy pouting and having his ego crushed just like you did on this thread....
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
The only getting crushed here is you - I made a plain and simple offer for a bet, and yet you refused. Over and over again (just like you claim you have done to me), then you try to call me out after you relent.
You're an idiot. You're a simple-minded twit who spends his days longing for a friend to say hi...instead you troll these message boards looking for a fight (and whining when you get your teeth knocked in).
But you never defined what "total contract dollars" meant, Tinkerbell. That's the whole point.. I never agreed to your simple minded, blanket statement. I put posted it in black and white with the exact, specific terms which you refused to do (and in fact, still haven't done). It could have included incentives that wouldn't kick in for another 3 or 4 years for crying out loud.
Who is the one that declined the original bet? It was you.
Who is the one that changed the bet yet never elaborated? Again, it was you.
Who is the one that decided to run away from this thread? What do you know, it was you.
Who is Tinkerbell? Surprise, surprise, surprise... It's you!
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
You sure have an odd fascination with fairies...I bet you have them hand painted in your bedroom, don't you sparky?
I laid it out there: total contract dollars...which any simpleton could have figured out was max amount. Sorry your brain is so limited that you can't get that.
Now beat it...I'm through crushing you over and over and over again dipchit.
Total contract dollars, huh? Even though you refused to elaborate on what you meant, technically, that's an open ended bet.
For example, Alex Smith signed last year for $49.5M with $24M guaranteed. However, if he hits incentives, the total contract dollars could be worth $57M.
So please, Tinkerbell, how could we have done the bet based upon the way you described it?
The answer, you can't, but in your simple minded yapping, you thought it could. Hence the reason why I asked repeatedly for you to clarify what you meant. Since you were only able to respond with "total contract dollars", it was obvious that your grade school eduction was unable to articulate your wager.
Owned again and again and again and again
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
Total contract dollars OBVIOUSLY means guaranteed money + any and all incentives.
How f'ing dense are YOU that you couldn't understand this very basic point, nitwit?
Get lost. I can't help that you are so DENSE that you can't understand what TOTAL CONTRACT DOLLARS mean.
OWNED like the 2 dollar ho you are. >>
BAWHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Thank you, Tinkerbell. You continue to show everyone what an idiot you truely are
You refused the original bet, with this response:
<< <i>Not going to go on the guaranteed, but overall contract he will get more coin than Williams. >>
BAWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
So now you are saying that per your proposal, our bet would be ongoing until both Contracts would run through and all incentives had or had not been reached???
Owned again and again and again and again.
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
<< <i>Total contract dollars OBVIOUSLY means guaranteed money + any and all incentives. >>
"No, more money means more money. You want to get into stipulations like signing bonuses; I don't play that. Straight up: more money." "No signing bonus crap, nothing but TOTAL contract dollars." "Total money was the bet, and you want to bring in guaranteed money into the mix as well." "It's obvious you aren't willing to take the 'total contract' bet, so I will take that as you are too CHICKEN to accept the bet." "Not man enough to make a simple bet, without throwing in additional provisions?" "either accept the bet of most money overall (none of this guaranteed money qualifier BS), or the bet's off." "Nope, no signing bonus or guaranteed money provisions."
Tinkerbell gets owned again and again and again and again and again and again and again
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
Are you ever going to shut your pie hole? I wonder if you run your yap like this in person, or are you as cowardly as you showed yourself to be when I initially brought up the 'entire contract' bet.
You're a weak and pathetic little man stown - wouldn't surprise me if you had your ass kicked daily in school.
Are you ever going to shut your pie hole? I wonder if you run your yap like this in person, or are you as cowardly as you showed yourself to be when I initially brought up the 'entire contract' bet. >>
HAHAHAHAHAHA! Tinkerbell meet kettle You really should re-read this entire thread and see how it came back full circle
<< <i>You're a weak and pathetic little man stown - wouldn't surprise me if you had your ass kicked daily in school. >>
We all know you are just talking about yourself, Tinkerbell
<< <i>Typical non response..................don't worry stown many of us here that have been reading this thread see that he (axhole) is FOS >>
Oh don't worry, WP. It was all a matter of time before he dug himself into a hole he couldn't get out of
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
Comments
stown offered the bet.
This statement was your response -
"Not going to go on the guaranteed, but overall contract he will get more coin than Williams."
Not only did you attempt to qualify the bet, you used totally different terms in one sentence believing as usual that you are knowledgeable. "Overall contract" is all the money, not just salary.
Get a clue.
When she yapped that Bush was going to get more money than the #1 pick, I told her to put her money where her mouth was. I have limited this "discussion", if you can cal it that, to this thread only, since it is on topic.
I have come to realize that even if she did accept the original bet, Tinkerbell would probably welch out of it and claim a mass conspiracy involving the twin towers or something. Therefore, it's all moot anyways...
So back on topic:
The Yahoo article is here
<< <i>One of the sources took that a step further, saying Segal was considering not having Bush sign at all. Segal declined to comment when contacted Friday and messages left with multiple members of the New Orleans organization weren't returned.
While it appears unlikely on face value that Bush would sit out, he appears well-positioned to do so if he really wants.
Bush supposedly has more than $5 million in the bank from multiple endorsement deals Ornstein has negotiated since Bush left the University of Southern California. That money is guaranteed regardless of whether Bush plays this season.
Next, Bush could probably sit out 2006 and still be a high pick next year. >>
Regardless of how much hype a player gets, your draft position is your draft position, period. By allowing lower picks to get more money than higher picks, you will see more and more hold outs because of egos. Because of Bush, it wouldn't surprise me if the NFL steps in and caps each pick. #1s get $x, #2s get $x, and so on and so forth.
And let's be honest here, it's all about Bush's ego being hurt and he wants to say that he makes more money than the real #1 pick. How much difference is there between $54M with a $26.5M guaranteed and a $52M with a $24M guarantee? It's all about his ego...
As it's said in Wall Street, "How many yachts can you ski behind?"
Too bad stown's all talk and no action.
Looks like Tinkerbell ran away with her tail inbetween her legs, again.
Have a great time fantasizing about A-Rod on a weekend night, again.
Owned again and again and again and again...
Goodnight Tinkerbell
No, he made an offer and you refused. And at that point it should have been the end of the story but you had to keep insisting that he changed the terms.
Steve
Too bad you can't see that WP...stownie's a coward.
Here's how little you know Ax.
Even salary is guaranteed for first rounders and they get the max allowable under the CBA.
Most first rounders will not get signing bonuses this year. Other incentives are included based on performance.
So since salary is guaranteed, your offer on the bet is basically "let's see which guy get closer to nothing."
All money is the only way to go, just as you said when you agreed to "overall contract."
Profootballtalk.com info on Kamerion Wimbley contract with Browns -
As expected, there's no signing bonus. Due to complex nuances regarding the rookie pool and bonus proration, there won't be signing bonuses for most of the players drafted in round one.
Wimbley will receive a $1.096 million roster bonus in 2006 and a $6.731250 million option bonus in 2007, which is guaranteed by future salaries. There's a one-time so-called "falling off of the log" bonus of $850,000, based on the achievement of minimum playing time (usually 35 percent of the snaps). The "log" is also guaranteed by future salaries.
Also, the base salaries for 2006 ($275,000) and 2007 ($360,000) are fully guaranteed.
The total guaranteed money, then, is $9.31225 million.
<< <i>He made a ridiculous offer of a bet, I made a compromise. He wanted to keep as many provisions in as possible to swing the odds of the bet in his favor, he didn't relent, so he's the one who backed out. >>
Where are all of these provisions you keep talking about? If Bush signs with the Saints this year for $54,000,001 with a signing bonus of $26,500,001, you win.
I then asked you to clarify your bet to which you responded with "Too late stown...that ship's sailed". Tinkerbell, that's YOU backing out
<< <i>Too bad you can't see that WP...stownie's a coward. >>
That's probably the 10th time you have called me that, Tinkerbell. Where did you come up with that name, hmmm?
Oh that's right, it was Spammy!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
The unoriginal Tinkerbell strikes again
Why don't you clarify what exactly you mean by "total contract money". Are you including incentives or is it only base salary?
Oh yeah, "that ship's sailed" which means YOU are the one barking.. I mean backing out
Edited to add: Well what do you know, Tinkerbell decided to ignore her ownage on this thread and ran with her tail in between her legs to post on the open forum here.
Seems that regardless of where she posts, the responses are the same:
"I really thought it wasn't possible for Axtell to become even stupider, yet he easily achieves a new low with that bilge."
"what, are you chickening out?"
"or the forum will know what a crybaby you truly are."
"so I will take that as you are too CHICKEN to accept the bet."
"CHICKEN"
"it's ok, we all know you're a whiny little wimp - your cowering from this bet just PROVES it."
"Get lost, twerp. You're a fraud."
"If you aren't saying yes to this bet, then be quiet little man."
"chicken chit."
"either accept it or chicken out."
"you're being the coward here little man."
"Get lost chicken chit."
"Too bad stown's all talk and no action."
"stownie's a coward."
And last but not least:
"that ship's sailed."
BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Pot meet kettle...
Or more simply put:
Forum meet Tinkerbell
Steve
What an ego-driven little baby. Booo-hooo, I wasn't drafted #1 but I want #1 money. Boooo-hoooo, if I don't get it then I'm going to hold my breath until you give into my demands.
I'm so thankful we drafted someone that wants to play, not someone who cares more about commercials and endorsement deals
Fine, I'll take it.
1) Saints sign Bush this year for more than $54,000,000 with no guarantees, signing bonuses, and/or incentives (ie base salary only).
2) Loser must keep icon/avatar for the entire football season. Said icon/avatar cannot violate CU's policies.
Put up or shut up, Tinkerbell
PS: Here's your avatar
Maybe next time you want a bet you won't try to load it down with provisions that spin it into your favor.
<< <i>Nope, sorry, that ship's sailed.
Maybe next time you want a bet you won't try to load it down with provisions that spin it into your favor. >>
BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Since I'm making sooooooo many provisions, why don't you explain your side? You say total contract dollars yet won't clarify it. If you include incentives, that could take 5 or 6 years to kick in.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Owned again and again and again and again......
"or the forum will know what a crybaby you truly are."
"so I will take that as you are too CHICKEN to accept the bet."
"CHICKEN"
"it's ok, we all know you're a whiny little wimp - your cowering from this bet just PROVES it."
"Get lost, twerp. You're a fraud."
"If you aren't saying yes to this bet, then be quiet little man."
"chicken chit."
"either accept it or chicken out."
"you're being the coward here little man."
"Get lost chicken chit."
"Too bad stown's all talk and no action."
"stownie's a coward."
Tinkerbell met kettle
I gave you countless times to accept the bet...and yet you ran and hid like a little girl.
Then you want to call me a coward because, after giving up on you, you want to desperately agree to it?
Sorry chumpzilla, I'm done. Now, quit ruining other threads with your petty, pathetic, desperate attention grabs...it makes you look more ridiculous than you already do.
Wipe that egg off your face, grab your bottle, and go get in bed. Your mommy will be up to tuck you in.
Goodnight, junior!
And by the way, I never ran away, like you. Everyone who reads this thread will see who the real coward is; it's all explained perfectly in black and white.
You know Bush isn't going to get paid more and it's just eating you up inside. You were proven wrong, again...
Look and see how many times I offered a straight up bet: most money ever. Being the yellow, cowardly punk you are, tried to throw in 'guaranteed money' and other such nonsense to turn the odds even more in your favor. I refused.
Then, days after the midnight deadline, YOU want to agree? No, buddy boy, you lose. Everyone can read the posts and see your cowardly ass running and hiding behind the guaranteed clause of your bet.
You're a chicken chit POS.
Get lost, chump.
<< <i>Plain and simple: you're a coward.
Look and see how many times I offered a straight up bet: most money ever. Being the yellow, cowardly punk you are, tried to throw in 'guaranteed money' and other such nonsense to turn the odds even more in your favor. I refused.
Then, days after the midnight deadline, YOU want to agree? No, buddy boy, you lose. Everyone can read the posts and see your cowardly ass running and hiding behind the guaranteed clause of your bet.
You're a chicken chit POS.
Get lost, chump. >>
That's because you refused to see how a NFL contract worked. I decided, regardless, that you would still be wrong. When called out, you ran like the little girl you are.
Keep calling me chicken yet you refuse to take the bet YOU offered.
BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Now not only are you Tinkerbell but also back out of wagers at the last moment.
Owned again and again and again and again...
How good are the odds that he WON'T sign the biggest overall contract in football history? You couldn't just take those odds, you simple minded twit, you had to say he was going to get the most guaranteed money, too.
You to essentially make it a no lose bet for you - sorry, dipchit, I don't play that.
Backing out of wagers? That would be you fairy lover. I made a straight up bet offer, you turned it down. YOU, sir, are a coward.
Stownie at his finest!!
You are the one who said, "that ship's sailed".
You are the one who fails to see how NFL contracts work.
You are the one who ran away with tail firmly planted in between your legs.
Nice try, Tinkerbell, and better luck next time
In other news, Bush's ego still refuses to come to its senses
You have no honor, you have no integrity.
I am satisfied that I offered you a straight up bet many, many times...plenty of time to accept it, yet, like the worthless sack of crap you are, you refused. After I posted that I would no longer be accepting a bet from a POS like you, THEN you say 'ok let's bet'.
YOU are the weak, pathetic one. YOU are the one who ran and hid behind 'guaranteed money' clauses in the bet. You are worthless.
It's all there in black and white, so I'm not worried about how my wager was laid out. People with knowledge knew there were no major provisions as you so claim.
While I know you would rather use a blanket statement of "total contract dollars", NFL contracts aren't simple, like you, and have moving parts.
The truth hurts, huh Tinkerbell
That's akin to showing up to a high noon gunfight at 2pm. Go home junior, you've just been OWNED.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
How come whenever they announce a contract, they include guaranteed money, Tinkerbell?
Oh why am I asking you. You are a simple minded chiwawa who doesn't understand NFL economics.
Sorry chump, you're a spineless wimp who can't even accept a stupid, simple bet.
Get lost, dipchit.
I just read the thread and I can't find it.
all i can find is him stating a bet, you declining and countering.
then the back and forth on who is chicken etc.
maybe you can show me/us exavtly where stown agreed to the bet (under your terms) and you said no?
Steve
<< <i>Where exactly did stown say ok to this bet and you said too late?
I just read the thread and I can't find it.
all i can find is him stating a bet, you declining and countering.
then the back and forth on who is chicken etc.
maybe you can show me/us exavtly where stown agreed to the bet (under your terms) and you said no?
Steve >>
'exavtly' here is where stown the clown agreed, AFTER I said I was no longer interested:
<< <i>Saturday July 22, 2006 4:35 PM
Too late stown...that ship's sailed. >>
<< <i>Monday July 24, 2006 7:56 PM
Fine, I'll take it.
1) Saints sign Bush this year for more than $54,000,000 with no guarantees, signing bonuses, and/or incentives (ie base salary only).
2) Loser must keep icon/avatar for the entire football season. Said icon/avatar cannot violate CU's policies. >>
Who is the one that declined the original bet? It was you.
Who is the one that changed the bet yet never elaborated? Again, it was you.
Who is the one that decided to run away from this thread? What do you know, it was you.
Who is Tinkerbell? Surprise, surprise, surprise... It's you!
By the way, how are those texans looking? 4-12? 3-11?
Yeah, not taking Bush was a BRILLIANT move. Williams is going to make a huge difference! (not).
Who is the one that declined the original bet? It was you. <- FACT
Who is the one that changed the bet yet never elaborated? Again, it was you. <- FACT
Who is the one that decided to run away from this thread? What do you know, it was you. <- FACT
Who is Tinkerbell? Surprise, surprise, surprise... It's you! <- FACT
I'm excited to see my hometown team playing this year. Can you say that, Tinkerbell?
Oh and another fact, our #1 draft choice will be playing the first day of training camp.
The #2 pick? Well, he's too busy pouting and having his ego crushed just like you did on this thread....
The only getting crushed here is you - I made a plain and simple offer for a bet, and yet you refused. Over and over again (just like you claim you have done to me), then you try to call me out after you relent.
You're an idiot. You're a simple-minded twit who spends his days longing for a friend to say hi...instead you troll these message boards looking for a fight (and whining when you get your teeth knocked in).
Get lost, moron.
Who is the one that declined the original bet? It was you.
Who is the one that changed the bet yet never elaborated? Again, it was you.
Who is the one that decided to run away from this thread? What do you know, it was you.
Who is Tinkerbell? Surprise, surprise, surprise... It's you!
I laid it out there: total contract dollars...which any simpleton could have figured out was max amount. Sorry your brain is so limited that you can't get that.
Now beat it...I'm through crushing you over and over and over again dipchit.
Total contract dollars, huh? Even though you refused to elaborate on what you meant, technically, that's an open ended bet.
For example, Alex Smith signed last year for $49.5M with $24M guaranteed. However, if he hits incentives, the total contract dollars could be worth $57M.
Source
So please, Tinkerbell, how could we have done the bet based upon the way you described it?
The answer, you can't, but in your simple minded yapping, you thought it could. Hence the reason why I asked repeatedly for you to clarify what you meant. Since you were only able to respond with "total contract dollars", it was obvious that your grade school eduction was unable to articulate your wager.
Owned again and again and again and again
Total contract dollars OBVIOUSLY means guaranteed money + any and all incentives.
How f'ing dense are YOU that you couldn't understand this very basic point, nitwit?
Get lost. I can't help that you are so DENSE that you can't understand what TOTAL CONTRACT DOLLARS mean.
OWNED like the 2 dollar ho you are.
So then what the hell is the problem ax? Stown's bet was for just that!
Or am I misunderstanding this??
good God
Steve
<< <i>Good god man are you really that dumb?
Total contract dollars OBVIOUSLY means guaranteed money + any and all incentives.
How f'ing dense are YOU that you couldn't understand this very basic point, nitwit?
Get lost. I can't help that you are so DENSE that you can't understand what TOTAL CONTRACT DOLLARS mean.
OWNED like the 2 dollar ho you are. >>
BAWHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Thank you, Tinkerbell. You continue to show everyone what an idiot you truely are
You refused the original bet, with this response:
<< <i>Not going to go on the guaranteed, but overall contract he will get more coin than Williams. >>
BAWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
So now you are saying that per your proposal, our bet would be ongoing until both Contracts would run through and all incentives had or had not been reached???
Owned again and again and again and again.
<< <i>Good god man are you really that dumb?
Total contract dollars OBVIOUSLY means guaranteed money + any and all incentives.
How f'ing dense are YOU that you couldn't understand this very basic point, nitwit?
Get lost. I can't help that you are so DENSE that you can't understand what TOTAL CONTRACT DOLLARS mean.
OWNED like the 2 dollar ho you are. >>
You have changed your stance.
It's apparent to those of us who have been watching this thread.
Your original counter offer was for "overall contract" which you mistakenly claimed is salary only.
It is all money, and now you have changed your tune days after it was proven to you.
<< <i>Total contract dollars OBVIOUSLY means guaranteed money + any and all incentives. >>
"No, more money means more money. You want to get into stipulations like signing bonuses; I don't play that. Straight up: more money."
"No signing bonus crap, nothing but TOTAL contract dollars."
"Total money was the bet, and you want to bring in guaranteed money into the mix as well."
"It's obvious you aren't willing to take the 'total contract' bet, so I will take that as you are too CHICKEN to accept the bet."
"Not man enough to make a simple bet, without throwing in additional provisions?"
"either accept the bet of most money overall (none of this guaranteed money qualifier BS), or the bet's off."
"Nope, no signing bonus or guaranteed money provisions."
Tinkerbell gets owned again and again and again and again and again and again and again
Are you ever going to shut your pie hole? I wonder if you run your yap like this in person, or are you as cowardly as you showed yourself to be when I initially brought up the 'entire contract' bet.
You're a weak and pathetic little man stown - wouldn't surprise me if you had your ass kicked daily in school.
Steve
<< <i>stownie,
Are you ever going to shut your pie hole? I wonder if you run your yap like this in person, or are you as cowardly as you showed yourself to be when I initially brought up the 'entire contract' bet. >>
HAHAHAHAHAHA! Tinkerbell meet kettle
<< <i>You're a weak and pathetic little man stown - wouldn't surprise me if you had your ass kicked daily in school. >>
We all know you are just talking about yourself, Tinkerbell
<< <i>Typical non response..................don't worry stown many of us here that have been reading this thread see that he (axhole) is FOS >>
Oh don't worry, WP. It was all a matter of time before he dug himself into a hole he couldn't get out of