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PrethenPrethen Posts: 3,466 ✭✭✭
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This is a nice, crusty CC 20¢. Like most others, it's poorly struck on the obverse. But, please give me your conservative grade on the coin. I'm getting cross-eyed by looking at what I'm seeing in PCGS/NGC holders for a similar coin. The little white speck/dot on the obverse between the last two stars does not show up on the coin in hand (somehow the scanner exaggerated something or picked up something that's not on the coin).

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    razorface1027razorface1027 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭
    Got a pic of the reverse? On my end it's coming up RedEx.image



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    KoinlinkKoinlink Posts: 593 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Got a pic of the reverse? On my end it's coming up RedEx.image >>



    Me too!

    From the obverse I'd say 25.
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    PrethenPrethen Posts: 3,466 ✭✭✭
    Oops...now the reverse is up.
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    ERER Posts: 7,345 ✭
    40
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    michaelmichael Posts: 9,524 ✭✭✭
    vf30 PQ
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    mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    obv looks tooled? Just looks odd.
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    razorface1027razorface1027 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭
    VF 35...Nice piece, too.image


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    constructconstruct Posts: 932
    My first thought was VF-35, but since you asked for my conservative estimate, I voted VF-30. image
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    ms70ms70 Posts: 13,958 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd give it a vf20. Nice original coin.
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    mirabelamirabela Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's really weird; look at how sharply detailed the head is, yet the shield & central part of the lady is so flat... guess it was just made that way.

    Conservatively, choice VF.

    From the pics, it looks like a highly worthwhile coin.
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    LanLordLanLord Posts: 11,756 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice looking double dime. Due to the raised LIBERTY on these coins, it usually doesn't hold up well with some circulation. Grading based on the amount of LIBERTY remaining would result in a lower than proper grade.

    I voted VF30, but wouldn't be suprised if it came out even a bit higher than that. Nice looking coin, I love the wide split in the C C on these coins. Just a neat coin overall.
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    FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,429 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You said conservative so the vote was VF35. XF40 would not be out of reach.

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    CarsonCityGoldCarsonCityGold Posts: 1,856 ✭
    VF25 tops
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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,977 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I graded it VF-35.

    The coin is a near EF, and by today's standards it could be called such.

    Many 1875-CC double dimes are weakly struck on the shield where "LIBERTY" appears and on the corrisponding area at the tip of the eagle's left wing. That's why you can't read the "LIBERTY" on this piece and why the wing is flat.

    There are fully struck 1875-CC 20 cent pieces available, but it's been my observation that more than half of them have this strike problem.
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    PrethenPrethen Posts: 3,466 ✭✭✭
    This coin was definitely one of my better eBay purchases. No one else bid on it and I won it at the minimum bid. It blew me away that no one else competed for a CC 20¢ piece. I purchased it as a VF/XF. After looking at it in hand (and the images show it pretty well); technically speaking the coin shows no worse than XF wear. However, the strike really makes it a challenge to grade.
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    BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I voted VF30

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    BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    The details are worn pretty evenly. I gave it a VF20. Hard to tell from the pic but it could go 30-35 if there is more than the pic shows.
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    PrethenPrethen Posts: 3,466 ✭✭✭
    Take a look at the details of the eagle's breast and leg feathers. Plus, look at Liberty's cap and hair. Not VF-type wear but I can understand why many people might believe so. My personal vote is VF35. Take a look at what you see in PCGS/NGC VF30+ holders. The detail on this coin is stronger. The other thing that I love about this coin is that it is extremely difficult to find them in original, crusty condition. Many of them have problems or have been dipped white...even in holders.
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,809 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice original VF30.


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    TorinoCobra71TorinoCobra71 Posts: 8,109 ✭✭✭
    Very Fine Twenty Five!


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    shirohniichanshirohniichan Posts: 4,992 ✭✭✭
    I think it's VF35 with a shot at EF40.

    I saw one in an ANACS MS60 holder years ago that was missing BER from LIBERTY. It was the worst struck double dime I'd ever seen, but I thought the ANACS graders were correct in calling it UNC.
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    PrethenPrethen Posts: 3,466 ✭✭✭
    I changed out the reverse picture with a slightly better one (which shows it out of the holder).
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    roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,374 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There is probably luster on that coin. I vote for EF-45 but may be a bit optimistic. I think the coin is EF based on eagle detail, drapery detail, wear on breast, leg and shield. If there is luster left you are at least at VF30. A friend of mine bought one of these 6 months ago as a fine, and it had field luster left.......we both agreed it was a solid VF.

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    Cam40Cam40 Posts: 8,146 ✭
    i went 40
    i could see 45, 50 maybe
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    shirohniichanshirohniichan Posts: 4,992 ✭✭✭
    The scan for my 1875-CC in XF stinks, but the coin looks much nicer. BERTY on the shield is still visible. I think it has a better strike and more wear than yours.

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    eyoung429eyoung429 Posts: 6,374 ✭
    I'll have to go with EF40
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    PrethenPrethen Posts: 3,466 ✭✭✭
    "shirohniichan"...I really like your coin. The strike is considerably better. I would say the wear is fairly equal. It's hard to say, but I'll be keeping my eyes open for better strike CC's for sale. Thanks for sharing!
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    shirohniichanshirohniichan Posts: 4,992 ✭✭✭


    << <i>"shirohniichan"...I really like your coin. The strike is considerably better. I would say the wear is fairly equal. It's hard to say, but I'll be keeping my eyes open for better strike CC's for sale. Thanks for sharing! >>



    I love double dimes, so I'm more than happy to share.

    Here is my 1875-S in XF (which looks very similar to my 75-CC).

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    ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    VF35
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    PrethenPrethen Posts: 3,466 ✭✭✭
    I love this ANACS XF 40 1875-S.

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    shirohniichanshirohniichan Posts: 4,992 ✭✭✭
    That's a nice coin for the grade.
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