Mariano Rivera Blows a Save!!!
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This happens so rarely, I thought it was worth noting. And we all love to have more threads about the Yankees.
Nice comeback by the Twinkies.
Nice comeback by the Twinkies.
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edit to add - blown saves that is...
You stay classy, New York!
And Ax, you just keep cheering your Mariners...you dont boo because they ALWAYS suck!
Good god you NY 'fans' are incredible (though not in a good way).
Keep thinking you're being a 'real' fan by booing the hometown team.
Dont you realize that we may boo our best players because of their recent performances and not because we dont like them? I see nothing wrong with fans showing their disapproval of a players performance. Maybe NY fans expect more than mediocracy from their players? Its no different when it comes to the Mets, Knicks, Giants, Jets, Rangers, or Islanders.
I know you NY dopes are so used to buying, err 'earning' wins that you can't stand the fact you lose, but it happens. And to have booed him in April was utterly and completely classless.
Yes you boo Rivera IF YOU ARE A RED SOX FAN. You DON'T boo him if you are a yankee fan. It's obvious you booed him. Shame on you, sir. Shame on you.
<< <i>Im so ashamed!!!! >>
As well you should be. I've never understood the mentality of a so-called 'fan' that allows him to boo the home team. Disappointed, sure, but how the hell are you encouraging a guy to do better by BOOING him?
The boos only proved how spoiled rotten yankee fans are. To boo the guy who's saved your team's collective asses time and time again in the postseason is inexcusable.
<< <i>Sucks being you, doesnt it. >>
No, actually it's pretty good being me.
Sucks for you that you are so spoiled by buying, I mean winning (I hate when I get those mixed up!) that you think you have the right to boo your star reliever when he has a bad couple of games.
Sucks to be you for you that you think you are owed a perfect season by a pitcher who has been lights out consistently.
Sucks to be you for you think that you are somehow being a 'good fan' by 'encouraging' your team's players by booing them.
Sucks to be you that you have no team loyalty.
<< <i>YOU NEVER BOO THE HOME TEAM.
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sigh
what a PUTZ. No doubt this dope just started "following" (and I mean that lightly) his Mariners. And CERTAINLY Axtell did not grow up with sports.
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What do they do? Toss their hands in the air, toast beer bottles, and laugh saying "HAHA! Maybe they will do better next time!"?
I may have to purchase the baseball package on my cable just to find this out!
Luis Castillo was a great pick-up. He started off the 9th with an intentionally chopped hit/bunt in front of home plate for his 4th hit. Then Joe Maurer had the most disciplined at bat you'll ever see. Passing on Rivera's well placed (but just out of strike zone) pitches. He then took it the other way to left field on a full-count as Castillo was running on the pitch. Then the incredibly bad (should be sent to minors or released) Rondell White looked as bad as me up there (he's batting about. 080) and then the over-rated Torri Hunter and his undisciplined self whiffed for the 5th time in 13 at bats against Rivera. Morneau (whom is equally undisciplined --- question that lineup string) places it perfectly in the hole for the win (likely broke his bat on it). Win Twins! Win Twins!
5 in a row to go 6-5. Twins may have had the hardest start of the season as far as schedule thus far. Playing Cleveland, White Sox, As, Yankees.
Erik
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Of course it's not just an east coast thing
I've seen the Lakers get boo'd at home many times
Dave
BUT, to come on here and foolishly scream that the home team should NEVER get booed is just plain silly and more than likely comes from ignorance. Passion is what fans are about and Axtell has never showed any PASSION for his teams. Which of course is why he can't relate to the vast majority of East Coast fans because they show alot of passion (misguided at times but passion) and Axtell can not relate to that.
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It's not like they can go out and sign another closer during the season.
(I know it's just one game, but he's not exactly a spring chicken anymore.)
With that said, Mo's stuff yesterday was as usual. Breaking bats, over powering in the upper strike zone.
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No, you don't boo the home team. It's classless, it's silly, and shows you have NO appreciation for their past accomplishments, you just want MORE. Of course Laker fans are going to boo the home team, they're the same spoiled children yankee fans are. I can't recall ever hearing Patriot fans boo Brady, or Packer fans booing Favre. You just don't do it.
I am sorry you equate passion with acting like a spoiled child. They aren't the same. Yes you get disappointed when your team performs poorly, but booing just reeks of classlessness. It proves you care not one iota what they've given you in the past, all you care about is what they can give you now, and if nothing, damn them.
Please tell me how a hometown player is supposed to feed off of negative energy in his home stadium? Opposing players feed off it, yes, but the home team? Support them ya crackhead.
It doesnt happen all the time....and since you are such an expert on Yankees and their fans, I would hope that you wont forget the beginning of the season for Jeter last year. The guy couldnt hit the side of the barn but yet Yankees fans cheered him like crazy ever time up to bat encouraging him.
And how about also a couple of years ago when David Wells pitched in NY when he was a San Diego Padre? Did you know he got an incredible standing ovation thanking him for what he has done for the Yankees?
There is just as much positive energy as there is negative energy given in NY. Its a nice, delicate balance and what makes us so passionate about our teams and success.
Something you will never experience Axhole....and thats why its sad to be you.
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It doesnt happen all the time....and since you are such an expert on Yankees and their fans, I would hope that you wont forget the beginning of the season for Jeter last year. The guy couldnt hit the side of the barn but yet Yankees fans cheered him like crazy ever time up to bat encouraging him.
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So why the disparity between how golden boy Jeter is treated struggling, and Rivera?
<< <i>And how about also a couple of years ago when David Wells pitched in NY when he was a San Diego Padre? Did you know he got an incredible standing ovation thanking him for what he has done for the Yankees?
So why are you continuing to justify your booing of Rivera? Nothing you can say will refute the fact that you booed.
<< <i>There is just as much positive energy as there is negative energy given in NY. Its a nice, delicate balance and what makes us so passionate about our teams and success.
Something you will never experience Axhole....and thats why its sad to be you. >>
Again, you are missing the point. What does booing your home town player, many who would argue is the one most responsible for your recent world series wins. Its simply classless.
All NY players in every sport even know why they get booed. If you dont get it then you dont belong in NY.
You think Jeter has never been booed? He sure has! Dont worry, Im sure Rivera, Jeter, or any other ball player isn't in the clubhouse crying because the fans booed them one evening.
I havent seen anyone refuting the fact that a player was booed. We just understand it. The players understand it. Only a child like mind doesnt understand it.
I have a hard time understanding why you cant understand that the fans are booing past accomplishments..they are booing their displeasure in the present performance. Maybe its because you dont care enough to want to win...or just no experience in success.
I guess I could try to explain this until my fingers are bleeding but I know it wont do any good. It's like trying to teach a chimpanzee calculus.
Booing Rivera, in April no less, is inexcusable.
There is no way to excuse it, no way to cut it, other than to say you NY fans are clowns.
And that's your take, eh?
Mariano hasnt much work so far, but look out now, the Yankees have a staff E.R.A. of 3.80, second only to Detroit whose team average is 3.73. The yanks have also given up the second fewest earned runs in all of baseball, with 62 to the Mets 59. Is it time to praise Guidry and reassess the staff, or just an early fluke ?
-- Yogi Berra
<< <i>Figured I would give this thread a bump...
Mariano hasnt much work so far, but look out now, the Yankees have a staff E.R.A. of 3.80, second only to Detroit whose team average is 3.73. The yanks have also given up the second fewest earned runs in all of baseball, with 62 to the Mets 59. Is it time to praise Guidry and reassess the staff, or just an early fluke ? >>
A tad early. Playing the Royals can do wonders for your staff ERA. If Aaron Small cannot effectively come back from the DL, they will be offering Clemens $30 million.
Carl Pavano and Octavio Dotel are their with Small too. We shall see .....
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<< <i>Carl Pavano and Octavio Dotel are their with Small too. We shall see ..... >>
I can't help but laugh every time I see the injury reports and it lists Pavano with "bruised buttocks".
Rivera gives up 2 runs and loses to the lowly Devil Rays. His ERA is above 4 now.
Over the Hill
Not only is Rivera's ERA above 4, it's nearly 5! 4.91.
<< <i>This thread should see a lot of life this season... >>
I bet Yankee fans wish Rivera's arm had as much life as this thread will.
And Axtell, I'm really gonna have a field day with you in the end. Lets not forget these gems
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AL West - Seattle
NL Wild Card - Florida
World Series - Chicago and Florida, all wild card world series, with Chicago winning it.
AL Cy Young - Felix Rodriguez
hey softy,
no one was asking for your insight on my picks, ok numbnuts?
Florida won't lose 100 games, dontrelle will win 20, and the yankees will finish THIRD in the al east behind boston and toronto.
Now go put that in your pipes and smoke it. God you guys are beyond stupid. >>
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I'm looking forward to the Jays/Yankees series this weekend. The Jays are an exciting team this year, but their offense has carried them (Wells, Rios, Glaus) so far. Their starting pitching needs to come together. This weekend should be exciting.
-- Yogi Berra
And yes, the yankees left a lot of men on base, but isn't Rivera's job to get people out, not worry about how many men they left on?
If we went through the Mariners and the Red Sox then Im sure we could find guys who are toast and dont even belong in the majors.
Go ahead and beat on Cano...he's having a much better season than Felix Hernandez!
Your chances of eating crow is very high!
The Yankees started off worse last year and ended up winning the division. Yankees haters are much more concerned about the Yankees performing then the Yankees fans! LOL....I guess we just know how it's going to end up
CT, I will make sure every time the Sox have a bad game that I come on here and turn that bad game into a season long trend for the Sox. I mean afterall, Curt Schilling was LOUSY the other night. Surely he is DONE and it will be a long season for the Sox huh? I mean he is "no spring chicken" as you would say.
None of you clowns even DARE mention that Derek Jeter is hitting OVER .400. Hell no, that would be something POSITIVE in Yankee land. But I gaurantee if he was hitting .125 all of the "over-rated" idiots would be blowing that horn.
Robinson Cano is hitting .375 with 1 error on the season AND a 13 game hitting streak. Again, nothing but SILENCE from the peanut gallery. BUT, if he had 6 errors and was hitting below the Mendoza line ALL of you would be on top of it.
What a joke all of you are
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CT, that was for you my friend! Obviously I know NONE of it is true but it might give you a little INSIGHT into how easy it is for the Yankee hater to jump right onto a BANDWAGON at every opportunity. The above rant is what the Yankee hater does with every bad outing by a Yankee. It is so so funny how you guys micro analyze every happening with the Yankees.
Worry about your own damn teams and the problems they have.
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I hate the Yankees but you gotta give them credit. By the way I hate the Red Sox too.
Go Rickey. You will waltz into the Hall of Fame!
don't know who you are but you just NAILED my point.
It is APRIL FOR PETE SAKE. In APRIL (1st month of the season for the beginners) all it takes is ONE bad night for the stats to COMPLETELEY FLIP FLOP. Axtell was real quick to get on Chacon for two so so starts early on but OF COURSE is nowhere to be found saying anything about him when he has two superb starts in a row. Also, where are the "STONE HANDS" taunts of Cano as he plays a near flawless second base and gets himself into a 13 game hitting streak?
I have watched this game long enough to KNOW that you don't make assumptions in APRIL or even MAY for that matter. Randy Johnson has a bad start and he is DONE according to the haters. A overpowering start? Nothing but crickets. And the beat goes on. The leaches that they are move to the next available poor outing by a Yankee making bombastic blanket statements about the downfall of whole careers.
It really is an incredible behavior to witness over a period of time.
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