What will happen to the Coin hobby/market if the Avian/Bird Flu strikes the US?????

oreville

This could be of concern in the year 2007 especially if we have a pandemic?

Will the internet save the coin collecting hobby?

Coin Finder

Did buying and selling and the "coin market" disappear during the depression of the early 30,s???

When was B max Mehl doing his thing?

Anyway, this pandemic may occure and if it does the hobby may take and need a little breather.

AU58WALKERS

"What will happen to the Coin market if the Avian/Bird Flu strikes the US?????"

The MINT will put out a special coin/medal???

cullenbryant

If the bird flu hits in the form that it's currently in bird to human then i believe it will have little impact.

however, if it morphs into human to human transmission, coin collecting among other things would suffer imo

Elcontador

What will happen to the Coin hobby/market if the Avian/Bird Flu strikes the US?????
Absolutely nothing.

Wingsrule

More internet bidders...

291fifth

Shows could be affected as people avoid large gatherings. Trading would be more internet oriented for the duration of the epidemic.

Let's hope it doesn't happen. I had a great uncle who died at age ten in the 1918 Spanish Flu epidemic.

lsica

<< <i>I had a great uncle who died at age ten in the 1918 Spanish Flu epidemic >>



And horrible as that was, and even with the lack of knowledge, cleanliness, and medical care back then, most people, by far survived.

I expect, if it ever does happen, the same this time.

So a good thing to be prepared for. Not frantic over.

fc

is a duck a bird?

if so, coin collecting will be all right.

matteproof

If the bird flu hits in the worst sense, coins and numismatics won't mean anything at all. The only thing that would matter is survival. The amount of sorrow and suffering in the world would be exceedingly huge. GOD forbid if that bird flu gets out of hand. matteproof

Coxe

Shows would drop off and many probably cancelled, especially small, regional ones. Sick people aren't goin to the post office and bank, so fewer transactions. eBay would really be pinched as would Teletrade. Less productivity means less money infusion from some tiers of the hobby. However, more people will probably take more time to read, learn and research, also look at their coins more. It would certainly cause a setback, though temporary.

Trime

More coins would come into the market

pontiacinf

if it becomes a coin to human transmission...look out

BillJones

The negative effect on the entire economy would hurt the collector coin market IMO. People would have other, more important concerns.

A partial offset could be the market for gold. That could go up as a hedge against uncertainty, although its illogical to think that gold could save you life from bird flu.

Coxe

<< <i>if it becomes a coin to human transmission...look out >>



Very good!

Imagine what the Economy Service turnaround time would end up being too.

Mercury

Nothing, IMHO this is nothing but hype by the news media.

BillJones

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<< <i>if it becomes a coin to human transmission...look out >>



Very good!

Imagine what the Economy Service turnaround time would end up being too. >>



You guys sound like the alarmists who said that the $2.50 and $5.00 incuse gold coins that Bella Pratt designed would spread desease and kill off the population.

cladking

<< <i>"What will happen to the Coin market if the Avian/Bird Flu strikes the US?????"

The MINT will put out a special coin/medal??? >>



They might be too busy grinding the birds off the ME, AR, CA, and SC quarters. ...And what will they do about the old clads?

CharlieB

Nothing

bushmaster8

<< <i>Nothing, IMHO this is nothing but hype by the news media. >>



Try telling that to the tens of millions that died in 1918, the last comparable time that there was an antigenic mutation of this magnitude.

messydesk

People will have to stop using fresh bird poop to artificially tone coins.

TheRaven

Nothing, because this is a hyped up story by the media.....

They have been talking about this for how long already.....

BobaFett72

totally Hype...just like the Sars bullspit a couple of years back....
"Try telling that to the tens of millions that died in 1918, the last comparable time that there was an antigenic mutation of this magnitude"

...in 1918 there wasnt the prevention, care, drugs or sanitation that exists today.
The virus does not currently have the capacity to move efficiently into the human population and then move from person to person. Until the virus develops this ability — if it ever does — your chances of being infected are virtually zero.


all just smoke and mirrors....

HOLY CRAP...post number 500...how the time flys....note to self....plan giveaway for post 1000! booyeah

errormaven

To me this seems like the "panic du jour". After all, people were freaking out about ebola virus, hantavirus, Marburg virus, etc. and nothing much came of it. On the other hand, AIDS came out of nowhere and was already a pandemic before people realized it. When it comes to bird or pig flu viruses, ANY one of them has the potential to become more virulent, and any one of them has the potential to mutate into a form easily transmissable to humans. Plagues and pandemics are not predictable.

northcoin

Maybe the Rooster gold pieces from Europe will qualify for a special label so the WTC promoters can add another death series.

Bear

Coin shows as we know them will be curtailed in a severe manner.

Public participation will be non existant at mass shows.

Coin collecting will revert to :

Coin stores

Dealer websites

E-Bay

Electronic bids at auctions

mozin

A lot of people would be staying home. This would give the collector lots of extra time to buy off the internet auctions. Payment could be made by credit card, and the postman would deliver the coins. The flu could turn out to be good for the hobby.

mcmxi

I'm gonna camp outside my dealers house and wait .

aficionado

Being that Bush has taken this once great country and reduced it to being the biggest bunch of wusses I've ever seen, I'm willing to bet that the economy will collapse with the first death of a chicken in the U.S.

Buy your duct tape now, beat the rush !!

Actually, I'm trying to figure out how I can profit from the ensuing irrational panic. Any ideas?

CarlWohlforth

<<And horrible as that was, and even with the lack of knowledge, cleanliness, and medical care back then, most people, by far survived>>

True, most people survived. However 20-40 million people died during the Spanish Flu pandemic of 1918, more than in WWI.

This flu is so scary because when it infects people they get very, very sick and many have died. Viruses mutate rapidly. There are already two major strains of the Avian Flu virus. The Spanish Flu and the other major killer flu viruses originated in animals and crossed over to humans.

If it happens people will stay home more. That is good for the hobby because people will have more time to organize their collection and purchase coins via internet. On the other hand it is bad for coin shows. Also if the world wide economy is affected it would hurt luxury spending but might help generic gold and silver if people want to hedge more.

KoinDawg

The government will recall all coins that have a bird (eagle) on them because those coins will remind us how many people died a horrible death. Hide all your coins except Lincolns, Jeffersons, IKES, Franklins, Buffalos, etc.

Michigan

KFC will see their sales go way down. Thanksgiving will be different
with many people refusing to eat turkey.

PerryHall

<< <i>The government will recall all coins that have a bird (eagle) on them because those coins will remind us how many people died a horrible death. Hide all your coins except Lincolns, Jeffersons, IKES, Franklins, Buffalos, etc. >>



Other than the 1976 bicentenial issue, Ike dollars have a bird on the reverse.

xbob

Fight the problem before it spreads! Just say NO to sex with birds.

relayer

All of the eagles will be removed from coins

Bear

The virulent Spanish Flue would attack a healthy person

at 9AM and the person would be dead by sundown. If the mutation

occures in the current bird flu, then it may turn out to be just as deadly.

In its current form, people who have been heavily infected have a 40%

chance of survival. This flu will attack the healthiest of our populatio, because it

causes the immune system to cascade drowning the person in their own blood

and secretions. Since us old fogies have diminished immune systems, we will have

a better chance of survival.

bushmaster8

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<< <i>I had a great uncle who died at age ten in the 1918 Spanish Flu epidemic >>



And horrible as that was, and even with the lack of knowledge, cleanliness, and medical care back then, most people, by far survived.

I expect, if it ever does happen, the same this time.

So a good thing to be prepared for. Not frantic over. >>



Well last I heard, of the 20 human cases reported, 18 died. So much for "modern medicine will save us " theory.

Apparently, YOUR money will be used to save us:

APHL E-UPDATE
07/13/2006
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HHS ANNOUNCES ADDITIONAL $225M FOR STATE AND LOCAL PANDEMIC
INFLUENZA PREPAREDNESS EFFORTS
HHS Secretary Michael Leavitt announced an additional $225
million in funding for state and local preparedness as part
of $350 million included in recent emergency appropriations
for upgrading state and local pandemic influenza
preparedness passed by Congress in December. In February,
the first phase of $100 million was awarded to states for
planning and exercising of pandemic response plans and to
identify gaps in preparedness. This second phase of funding
is being awarded to begin addressing those identified gaps
in pandemic influenza preparedness planning. For the
article, click here
[http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/060711/dctu033.html?.v=57] .
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CalGold

There will be a lot more Estate Sales on ebay.

CG

ozzysdad

What make's you think that it hasn't already made it here? Do you believe everything the media is fed by the government? Beside's when your dead and gone, It isn't coin's i would be worrying about..............

TheKidCollector1991

Increase in market of Veggie Burgers, at an all time record.

TKC

bidask

Ask the Mint to strike a new Commemorative.

ABC123

All the Ducks that collect coins will be SOL !

TwoSides2aCoin

quack quack, gobble gobble


that's bird talk for: " Duck, turkey " !

ziggy29

<< <i>All the Ducks that collect coins will be SOL ! >>

It would also explain Canada's "Diving Goose" coin...it's not diving, it's falling out of the sky...

Thenewguy

<< <i><< The government will recall all coins that have a bird (eagle) on them because those coins will remind us how many people died a horrible death. Hide all your coins except Lincolns, Jeffersons, IKES, Franklins, Buffalos, etc. >> >>




<< <i>Other than the 1976 bicentenial issue, Ike dollars have a bird on the reverse. >>


So do Franklins..a small one to the right of the bell.

RWB

Maybe collectors will, like Giovanni Boccaccio's company, go to some secret retreat far from crowds, surround themselves with beautiful women and fine wines, there to tell their tales of artificial vs natural toning....

itsnotjustme

More estate sales! Could be yours or mine....

DMWJR

All your flying eagles will look like this...

millennium

"Being that Bush has taken this once great country and reduced it to being the biggest bunch of wusses I've ever seen, I'm willing to bet that the economy will collapse with the first death of a chicken in the U.S."


Sheesh.....could you be more wrong...


The actual number of cases to July is around 229 cases with 113 deaths..mostly infants and elderly in third world countries.

morgannut2

Well it would take the Flu to make me stay home an by cr#ppy coins on Sleasebay!!

bushmaster8

It's amazin' the number of folks that think this could be spread by eating cooked bird flesh.

All influenza virus', no matter how virulent the strain, are extremely fragile and heat labile.

The virus would not survive in dead bird flesh you buy at your supermarket. And even if it did, no one, except maybe Russ eats raw birds.

If and when it comes, it will be transmitted like any other influenza virus: primarily by hand to hand to mucous membrane contact, and secondarily by airborne inhalation in crowded situations.

So 1)wash yer hands like you have obsessive compulsive disorder, and 2) stay off crowded public transportation.