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Bechtler $5 - Guess the NGC Grade (Answer on 1st post)

LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,408 ✭✭✭✭✭
I like Guess the Grade threads - hope you do too. The coin is more lustrous than the pic and is NGC AU58. It's tricky to get the luster and details on one pic - will post 4 on the next one, 2 with details, 2 with luster. image

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"My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose.

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  • kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,580 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've seen maybe one of these in person before. image

    VF-35.
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  • rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,875 ✭✭✭✭
    I like it AU 50
    "You keep your 1804 dollar and 1822 half eagle -- give me rainbow roosies in MS68."
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  • coinlieutenantcoinlieutenant Posts: 9,315 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,954 ✭✭✭✭
    I guess expensive.
  • ldhairldhair Posts: 7,262 ✭✭✭✭✭
    45image
    Larry

  • FatManFatMan Posts: 8,977
    Bechtlers are very cool. AU50
  • bonkroodbonkrood Posts: 796 ✭✭✭
    XF-45/ AU-50 nice
    image Steam Power
  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,423 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AU50
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  • RegulatedRegulated Posts: 2,992 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That coin was way lustrous in person...

    What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
  • dizzyfoxxdizzyfoxx Posts: 9,823 ✭✭✭
    I'll go with a XF45image
    image...There's always time for coin collecting. image
  • Very nice.. AU58
  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,408 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That coin was way lustrous in person...

    Yep - much nicer than my pathetic picture. image
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose.
  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭
    i also guess expensive.

    but seriously solid xf45.
  • RegulatedRegulated Posts: 2,992 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ouch.

    I'll buy Pioneer from all of these people.

    What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭
    I'll buy Pioneer from all of these people.

    i don't get it. pioneer is a sugar company to me.
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,797 ✭✭✭✭✭
    << I'll buy Pioneer from all of these people.>>

    i don't get it. pioneer is a sugar company to me.


    Pioneer refers to "pioneer" or "territorial" gold coins, those struck by private mints in the 19th century US.

    I think Regulated means that we are all undergrading the coin, and he would like to buy similar coins that we grade at prices commensurate with our grades, In fairness to us, in addition to the disclaimer about grading from photographs blah, blah, blah, these types of coins are not coins with which many of us have familiarity and in addition were crudely struck, such that it would be natural for those uninitiated among us to undergrade.
  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭
    in my defense and everyone elses.. the coin sure looks circulated
    from the pictures and lacks clear luster.

    hence no AU for it.

    if the coin is graded MS i quit. image
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,634 ✭✭✭✭✭
    XF-something-or-other, I suppose. Bechtlers have gotta be dang tough coins to grade.

    I used to dream of them when out metal detecting antebellum sites in Western NC- one local history of Asheville, where I lived (not too far from Rutherfordton where the Bechtlers were struck), described how the coins had circulated locally, and how folks used to bend 'em in doorframes to test the gold in 'em.

    I'd have settled for a bent one!

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,344 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AU50

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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,361 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like it and I would think in the AU53-55 range... I like the color. Nice image

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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AU.

    Reminds me of a 150g N.C. $5 Bechtler that came through my local dealer's shop mid-2005. It was sent out to PCGS and confirmed to be legit (AU53 or 55 as I recall). After giving the owner (who had no clue to its value or authenticity as it had been a family owned pc for generations), it promptly disappeared again. The $100 appraisal fee hardly compensated for the research, grading, and market value analysis that was done for the owner.

    roadrunner
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  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,408 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Answer is in the 1st post - NGC AU58.
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose.
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,797 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hey, I am on a roll grading your private mint stuff. (Where's the emoticon for me patting myself on the back?)
  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,408 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Gotta admit, RYK - you are good. image

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    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose.
  • FatManFatMan Posts: 8,977
    Hey RYK, you had the advantage of Regulated's first hand opinion of the luster when you posted your grade. I felt the details were all there but the luster was sorely lacking for a higher AU grade. With luster I have no problem with a 55-58 grade.image
  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,408 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Fats, you are correct.

    A coin in hand is worth a thousand pictures. The luster is there image
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose.
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,797 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hey RYK, you had the advantage of Regulated's first hand opinion of the luster when you posted your grade.

    I am at the hospital now (for real). I dislocated my shoulder patting myself on the back. imageimage

    I did not see regulated's post and would have graded it AU anyway, as much based on deductive reasoning and knowing the kinds of coins Lakesammman has recently bought as from any information present on the photo. There does appear to be some hidden luster in the photo, the kind we often see in original southern gold. image
  • RegulatedRegulated Posts: 2,992 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I really loved that coin. When are you going to post the last piece??

    What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,408 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The LAST PIECE?? Thanks....this was a private deal. No one was supposed to know.


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    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose.
  • IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭
    Don't even know what a beckler er bechtler is let alone how to grade one. image

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