Which of these two IHC's got a body bag and why do you think?
IrishMike
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Both coins were submitted to NGC to be graded and one of them came back in a body bag. This is a hard lesson in why it is so difficult to purchase coins from images. The white spot on the 1874 is glare from the plastic so ignore that when deciding. Interestingly some of you have seen this coin at FUN and expressed an opinion that the coin should have been graded. So please make a choice and tell me why you think it got the dreaded BB. This is difficult so don't be shy about it.
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That said, the 1887 looks hazy, so that would have been my guess...
Perhaps it's just the effect from the image, but the feather detail on the 1874 almost looks to be too sharp, at least compared to my recollection of others I've seen (and a few I just checked out on-line). So, I'm going to guess it got body-bagged for re-engraving.
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I only say this becuase we know for sure one of the two coins was BB'd. Had I not known that, it would have been difficult to tell from the image (at least for me).
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Oh and BigMoose I am almost positive I grab this out of my bag and showed it to you at Rick's table at FUN, I was setting there fascinated by Larry's collection and getting the coin education of my lifetime from him. Shylock was there next to me imaging coins on the fly.
Two things on the 1887. The area around the "L" and up through the feathers looks like some kind of AT or cleaning. Also, there appears to be damage to the "E" and adjoining areas of the Liberty and the lower band line. I'll say the 1887 because of physical damage and/or cleaning and retoning.
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A few of the expert IHC folks from here viewed the coin and like me saw nothing much wrong with it. I am talking about folks who have extensive knowledge and some who have expensive collections. To the eye of those of us who don't grade for a living and see thousands of coins this would go unnoticed. Rick Snow pointed out what he saw on the coin. I still don't see it, but then I bow to his expertise and experience. Mark Feld knows this coin too, the fox.
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<< <i>Are you going to crack it out and try again? >>
Barry I haven't in 3 years so I honestly don't know, it was purchase if memory serves me correctly for $185 and except for that so called wipe it would be a 65 or 66 red, trends show $5000 in 65 and $7500 in 66, which of course are exaggerated. It was purchased to go into my second IHC album which has other coins with problems. As Mark Feld said when he saw it, yes it was wiped but I would probably have graded it. I didn't put him on the spot by asking what grade.
Pushkin we talked about this coin a couple years back and you tried to lift it from me, remember?
A little voice keeps telling me to leave it right where it is.
<< <i>Pushkin we talked about this coin a couple years back and you tried to lift it from me, remember? >>
Sorry, I'm having trouble remembering things I talked about last week; a couple of years is an eternity for me anymore.
Sorry about the 1874, that's a tought date to have messed up
I do seem to remember that you were looking for an nice 1878 a long time ago, I think?
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