I just got the email of my grades from PSA. I submitted a mess of Burger King Tigers and came away with mostly 8's, an occasional 7, one 6, and one 9. Fortunately, the 9 was a Trammell. I am assuming it's this one ('cuz it's centered like a ferocious beast)...
Freehomepage won't let me post my Trammell. So I'll have to shrink it down and post it as a clickable image...
I also emailed the PSA Set Registry folks and requested that they weight the BK Tigers. Currently, everything is a '1'... which is absurd, since the Trammell, Whitaker and Morris cards are all rookies and sought after by collectors. I suggested that Tram be weighted a '5' and Whitaker and Morris both 3's.
Wow, let the bidding begin. I don't think I've ever seen this card for sale on Ebay. Considering a Jack Morris PSA 8 goes for around $30, what will this go for? It says it's a Pop 4 and it is by far the most sought after of all the BK cards. I only mention it because I have no intention of participating in the frenzy that will probably follow. Sorry if I ruined it for anybody else but the die-hard guys will find it anyways.
By the way, that weighting for the Tigers set sounds good to me. I hate it when sets aren't weighted. I noticed that a new guy took over the top spot. I need to submit my set to see where I rank.
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<< <i>Wow, let the bidding begin. I don't think I've ever seen this card for sale on Ebay. Considering a Jack Morris PSA 8 goes for around $30, what will this go for? It says it's a Pop 4 and it is by far the most sought after of all the BK cards. I only mention it because I have no intention of participating in the frenzy that will probably follow. Sorry if I ruined it for anybody else but the die-hard guys will find it anyways.
By the way, that weighting for the Tigers set sounds good to me. I hate it when sets aren't weighted. I noticed that a new guy took over the top spot. I need to submit my set to see where I rank. >>
You'll never make it to number 1 without getting in the frenzy!!!
Well, the Trammell closed at $261. That is a good amount but way way more than I would have bid. I believe it's worth every cent of $261, I'm just a cheepskate and I won't stop until I get one on a $5 submission. There is also currently a PSA 8 that just hit ebay, I wonder what that will go for? I'd guess about $50-$75 if $30 is correct for a Morris PSA 8.
I have a few Trammell 8's that I'll probably list at some point.
jimtb, how could you possibly part with your delicious Trammell 9? It's a very special rarity!
I got another nice-looking Trammell in an ebay set last week (along with an off-centered Lou and Jack). It's somewhere between 8 and 9 quality (great centering)... if I got a 9 on that one, I'd trade it for a Whitaker/Morris 9 combo. Unfortunately, there are no Morris 9's yet!
Steve- I was very pleased with the results. I know how hard it is to get 9s on BK cards. The 10s were a complete surprise. I think both the Tidrow and Gullett 10s and 9s are each 1/1. The Jim Wynn 9 is also 1/1.
Haven't updated my set yet. I am listed in the registry as Tom D. If you want to help me upgrade my 8s to 9s in my set, I will be happy to trade my duplicate 9s if you have any that I don't.
Hello, no not yet, I'm waiting for a $5 special. I have a complete set to submit plus some extras so I'll definately trade you if we have ones each other needs. This is going to be a good race for #1. Did your cards come from BBCExchange? Where did you get them?
Tom, you are the man! You not only took over #1 on that set but you crushed the other monster set in Rating. I thought it would be close but that Pinella must be huge. If the $5 special is May 1st, my cards will go off that day. I'm hoping.
Thanks Steve....I'm hoping I can hold on to #1 until the Set Registry Awards come out. Its the only set I'll ever have a shot at #1. Its amazing how much the value of the Piniella adds to the overall GPA. I know there are some 9s out there on that card, but not many.
I'm hoping we can help each other out with some trades once you get yours graded. Good luck in your quest to be the King of Burger King.
Good to see the Burger King thread back up on the forum as well. Its been a while.
These are the three nicest three. Four more 8's to go along with 'em. Two more Schmidts, a rose (better centered then the one pictured, and another Carlton but an 8.
Always buying 1984 Ralston Purina PSA 9s and 10s I NEED 19,21, and 29!!!
I saw that Munson this morning too. I would love to have that but I know the price is going to be way higher than what I'm wanting to pay. I'm trying to complete all the BK sets at once so I'm finding no shortage of stuff to spend money on. I paid $9.99 for my PSA 9 so I'm happy with that for now. I think when I get to the point of having all the sets done and rarely finding new stuff, I'll start chasing down huge cards like that.
When I saw that Munson, I had to click and see if it was legit. I checked the Pop Report and to my surprise it is a Pop4! With the tons of nice sets that BBCExchange has sold lately, I think that 77's will prove to not be that tough. From what I've seen so far, the toughest sets will be the 78 Astros and 78 Rangers followed by the 78 Tigers and the 80 PHR. Speaking of 80 PHR, I've noticed some of the Runners at the end of the set are super tough. I've bought about 20 sets and opened about a couple boxes worth of packs and there is still cards that I haven't ben able to find in PSA 8 condition.
I just sent off the rest of my Tigers cards which will complete that set for me and some more 80 PHR cards. A guy named Michael Clum is making a run at all the sets like I am and he dethroned me recently. Congrats to him but I'm coming back with a vengence. I have a few of the Pop 1 PSA 9's from that set and I'm not budging with them. Here's a link to that. Pitch, Hit and Run holds a special meaning to me because when I was a kid, I participated on that event one summer against a couple hundred other kids. I took first place in hitting and pitching and won a big overall trophy. I plan on never resting until I retake 1st place on that set.
I'm also planning on sending in my 77's next week to complete that set. I also have the 79 and 80 Phillies set ready to go and they are complete also. I have some really nice 78 and 79 Yankees ready to go also but I have to pick my fights one at a time.
I was flipping through an old beckett recently and I saw a listing for 1982 Burger King Cleveland Indians. Has anybody ever heard of that set or seen it? I've never seen any on EBay.
I didn't even realize the deadline was coming. I've never won an award for the registry. My goal next year is to take first on everything Burger King. I doubt I'll make it but I like to set my goals high.
I was in a cardshop in Philly a while back and I cherrypicked his 79 Phillies sets. I have the following that I'm getting ready to send off to PSA, and I think the chances of getting some 9s are pretty good. I won't say anything about 10s so I don't jinx myself..... Crap, I think I just jinxed myself.
Anyway, I'm sending off 4 Schmidt, 5 Carlton, a Rose, and a Luzinski, plus a Reggie from the 79 Yankees. I also have about 5 raw sets worth of cards which should yield a bunch of 8s and 9s (for commons) if you choose to send them off.
Those are some really nice examples, of Carlton in particular. I was never able to pull more than an 8 on any of the boxes I opened - but it seems like you scored some phenomenal examples. Good luck and cheers!
p.s. I am interested in commons from the set, too, if you purchased any of the Phillies 'lesser knowns' that you were not planning to submit.
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So ou still have an extra 1977 Burger King Nettles? I need one for my registry and would be glad to purchase it from you. Please email me if available at pjray55@aol.com.
Thanks, Patrick
Looking for additions or upgrades to my Graig Nettles master player set on the registry.
Wow, that is a nice Piniella. PSA shows only 2 9's and no 10's. I just picked up this one. It looks nice so I'm hoping for a 9. I have another to send in but it looks like about an 8.
In regards to the 1980 PHR set, I'm starting to notice which cards are tough that I thought I would share with you guys. So far, I've bought about 100 packs and about 40-50 complete sets. One that is really surprising me is the Pete Rose from that set. The card is constantly off center and never cut clean. It looks just like the regular 1980 card and the 1980 BK Phillies card but it is much much tougher than those two. I just checked the pop report and there is 4 8's, 0 9's and 0 10's so that proves my suspicion. This might wind up being one of the toughest Rose's out there. I just bought 35 sets from Kruk cards (which are really nice by the way), and while going through one after another of crap Rose's, there is was, bingo. A gorgeous Rose, it must be a freak of nature. Sharp corners and near perfect centering. I was beginning to think one didn't exist. Even in Michael Clum's set, which is #1 right now (not for long though), he only has a 7. I've yet to find one that even looked like an 8 before I found this one.
Another tough one is the Rod Carew, I haven't seen anything closely resembling a 9 on that one either. Also the Rollie Fingers was giving me problems too. A 9 doesn't exist yet in the Carew or the Fingers. Also, many of the cards at the end of the set and really tough too, but most of them are the commons from the set. I had the Pop 1 PSA 9 Brett until another one was recently graded. I still own the Pop 1 PSA 9 Reggie Jackson and I'm hoping that it stays that way for a while. A couple more tough ones are Don Baylor and George Foster. No 9's yet on those either.
I'll probably get to the point where I can see myself seriously overpaying for these cards if I can't eventually grade my own 9.
My grades just popped today. A lot of them are BK cards so I figured I would post it here. Overall a fair submission. A lot more 5,6, and 7's than I think was warranted but I can live with the 8's and higher on the BK's. I now have a BK Tigers complete set. The 80 BK Phillies was a little harsh with all 8's. Those were the best of the best that I had. The 81 Coca Cola's were a little tough too, but not bad. The 77 Topps Mexican Football all came out of PSA 8st holders so a 6,7,8,8 seems a bit weird. That tells me the were graded wrong the first time. The 82 Football Stickers were pack fresh and CRISPY mint. The more modern stuff was OK but I've done a lot better. The cards that really help me are most of the 9's on the BK's.
Oh yeah, and if you notice, the 78 BK Alan Trammell PSA 8 in this sub is the same PSA 6 that I posted here. It's sad that I have to pay grading fees twice to have it correctly graded when all the graders should be on the same page down there.
1 31665178 1975 TOPPS 70 MIKE SCHMIDT N/A 7 2 31665179 1975 TOPPS 80 CARLTON FISK N/A 8 3 31665180 1975 TOPPS 149 TIM FOLI N/A 8 4 31665181 1975 TOPPS 188 TOM GRIFFIN N/A 8 5 31665182 1975 TOPPS 233 BILLY GRABARKEWITZ N/A 8 6 31665183 1975 TOPPS 370 TOM SEAVER N/A 8 7 31665184 1975 TOPPS 416 LARRY LINTZ N/A 8 8 31665185 1975 TOPPS 421 METS TEAM YOGI BERRA, MGR. 8 9 31665186 1975 TOPPS 431 ROD GILBREATH N/A 8 10 31665187 1975 TOPPS 451 RICK DEMPSEY N/A 9 11 31665188 1975 TOPPS 485 SPARKY LYLE N/A Not Holdered, Did not meet Minimum Size Requirements 12 31665189 1975 TOPPS 598 BRUCE KISON N/A 8 13 31665190 1975 TOPPS 645 DANNY CATER N/A 7 14 31665191 1977 BURGER KING 2 THURMAN MUNSON YANKEES 8 15 31665192 1977 BURGER KING 17 REGGIE JACKSON YANKEES 8 15 31665193 1977 BURGER KING 17 REGGIE JACKSON YANKEES 8 15 31665194 1977 BURGER KING 17 REGGIE JACKSON YANKEES 8 16 31665195 1978 BURGER KING 21 REGGIE JACKSON YANKEES 9 17 31665196 1978 BURGER KING CHECKLIST 1-22 TIGERS 5 18 31665197 1978 BURGER KING 1 RALPH HOUK TIGERS 7 19 31665198 1978 BURGER KING 2 MILT MAY TIGERS 8 20 31665199 1978 BURGER KING 3 JOHNNY WOCKENFUSS TIGERS 8 21 31665200 1978 BURGER KING 4 MARK FIDRYCH TIGERS 8 22 31665201 1978 BURGER KING 5 DAVE ROZEMA TIGERS 8 23 31665202 1978 BURGER KING 6 JACK BILLINGHAM TIGERS 8 24 31665203 1978 BURGER KING 7 JIM SLATON TIGERS 8 25 31665204 1978 BURGER KING 9 JOHN HILLER TIGERS 8 26 31665205 1978 BURGER KING 10 STEVE FOUCAULT TIGERS 7 27 31665206 1978 BURGER KING 11 MILT WILCOX TIGERS 5 28 31665207 1978 BURGER KING 12 JASON THOMPSON TIGERS 8 29 31665208 1978 BURGER KING 13 LOU WHITAKER TIGERS 8 30 31665209 1978 BURGER KING 14 AURELIO RODRIGUEZ TIGERS 9 31 31665210 1978 BURGER KING 15 ALAN TRAMMELL TIGERS 8 32 31665211 1978 BURGER KING 16 STEVE DILLARD TIGERS 8 33 31665212 1978 BURGER KING 17 PHIL MANKOWSKI TIGERS 8 34 31665213 1978 BURGER KING 18 STEVE KEMP TIGERS 8 35 31665214 1978 BURGER KING 19 RON LeFLORE TIGERS 7 36 31665215 1978 BURGER KING 20 TIM CORCORAN TIGERS 8 37 31665216 1978 BURGER KING 21 MICKEY STANLEY TIGERS 8 38 31665217 1978 BURGER KING 22 RUSTY STAUB TIGERS 8 39 31665218 1979 BURGER KING 16 MIKE SCHMIDT PHILLIES 9 39 31665219 1979 BURGER KING 16 MIKE SCHMIDT PHILLIES 8 40 31665220 1979 TOPPS 237 BILLY SMITH N/A 9 41 31665221 1980 BURGER KING 4 PETE ROSE PHILLIES 8 41 31665222 1980 BURGER KING 4 PETE ROSE PHILLIES 8 41 31665223 1980 BURGER KING 4 PETE ROSE PHILLIES 8 41 31665224 1980 BURGER KING 4 PETE ROSE PHILLIES 8 42 31665225 1980 BURGER KING 6 MIKE SCHMIDT PHILLIES 8 42 31665226 1980 BURGER KING 6 MIKE SCHMIDT PHILLIES 8 43 31665227 1980 BURGER KING 15 STEVE CARLTON PHILLIES 8 43 31665228 1980 BURGER KING 15 STEVE CARLTON PHILLIES 8 44 31665229 1980 TOPPS 720 CARL YASTRZEMSKI N/A 9 45 31665230 1980 BURGER KING CHECKLIST 1-33 PITCH, HIT & RUN 9 46 31665231 1980 BURGER KING 2 STEVE CARLTON PITCH, HIT & RUN 8 47 31665232 1980 BURGER KING 6 PHIL NIEKRO PITCH, HIT & RUN 8 48 31665233 1980 BURGER KING 7 JIM PALMER PITCH, HIT & RUN 8 49 31665234 1980 BURGER KING 8 J.R. RICHARD PITCH, HIT & RUN 8 50 31665235 1980 BURGER KING 9 NOLAN RYAN PITCH, HIT & RUN 9 50 31665236 1980 BURGER KING 9 NOLAN RYAN PITCH, HIT & RUN 9 51 31665237 1980 BURGER KING 11 BRUCE SUTTER PITCH, HIT & RUN 9 52 31665238 1980 BURGER KING 16 KEITH HERNANDEZ PITCH, HIT & RUN 8 53 31665239 1980 BURGER KING 18 FRED LYNN PITCH, HIT & RUN 8 54 31665240 1980 BURGER KING 19 DAVE PARKER PITCH, HIT & RUN 8 55 31665241 1980 BURGER KING 21 PETE ROSE PITCH, HIT & RUN 8 56 31665242 1980 BURGER KING 22 DAVE WINFIELD PITCH, HIT & RUN 8 57 31665243 1980 BURGER KING 31 BILL NORTH PITCH, HIT & RUN 8 58 31665244 1980 BURGER KING 33 WILLIE WILSON PITCH, HIT & RUN 9 59 31665245 1981 COCA-COLA 8 PETE ROSE N/A 8 59 31665246 1981 COCA-COLA 8 PETE ROSE N/A 8 59 31665247 1981 COCA-COLA 8 PETE ROSE N/A 8 59 31665248 1981 COCA-COLA 8 PETE ROSE N/A 8 59 31665249 1981 COCA-COLA 8 PETE ROSE N/A 7 59 31665250 1981 COCA-COLA 8 PETE ROSE N/A 9 60 31665251 1964 TOPPS 181 DAVE WICKERSHAM N/A 8 61 31665252 1965 TOPPS 48 CLAUDE RAYMOND N/A 8 62 31665253 1989 FLEER 616 BILL RIPKEN SCRIBBLE OVER ERROR 9 63 31665254 1990 FLEER 271 ROGER CLEMENS N/A 8 64 31665255 1991 CLASSIC T65 ROGER CLEMENS SERIES II 10 65 31665256 1977 TOPPS MEXICAN 81 MEL GRAY N/A 6 66 31665257 1977 TOPPS MEXICAN 283 TOM DeLEONE N/A 7 67 31665258 1977 TOPPS MEXICAN 294 MIKE ESPOSITO N/A 8 68 31665259 1977 TOPPS MEXICAN 422 TIM FOX N/A 8 69 31665260 1982 TOPPS STICKERS 20 WALTER PAYTON N/A 8 69 31665261 1982 TOPPS STICKERS 20 WALTER PAYTON N/A 8 70 31665262 1982 TOPPS STICKERS 92 LAWRENCE TAYLOR N/A 7 71 31665263 1982 TOPPS STICKERS 120 RONNIE LOTT N/A 7 72 31665264 1984 TOPPS 3 DAN MARINO NFL STAR SET 8 73 31665265 1996 BOWMAN'S BEST 90 BARRY SANDERS N/A 10 74 31665266 1996 BOWMAN'S BEST 115 JOHN ELWAY N/A 10 75 31665267 1996 BOWMAN'S BEST 162 TEDY BRUSCHI N/A 9 76 31665268 1996 BOWMAN'S BEST 164 RAY LEWIS N/A 8 76 31665269 1996 BOWMAN'S BEST 164 RAY LEWIS N/A 8 76 31665270 1996 BOWMAN'S BEST 164 RAY LEWIS N/A 9 76 31665271 1996 BOWMAN'S BEST 164 RAY LEWIS N/A 9 77 31665272 1995 BOWMAN'S BEST 174 AMANI TOOMER N/A 9 78 31665273 1986 FLEER 53 MAGIC JOHNSON N/A 8 79 31665274 1986 FLEER 91 DOC RIVERS N/A 9 80 31665275 1998 BOWMAN'S BEST 60 MICHAEL JORDAN N/A 9 81 31665276 1998 FINEST 81 MICHAEL JORDAN N/A 10 82 31665277 * REFUND DO NOT GRADE N/A Not Holdered, No Holder Available
Yeah, I have the Morris in an 8 already. I used the BK cards to fill out the order to 100 cards and I had to choose which ones to submit so I went with the Tigers set for now. I usually submit stuff for resale and then I throw in a few for my collection. I REALLY wish I would have gotten a 9 on one of the 77 Reggie's. That means I have to buy a 9 off ebay or go with the 30 sets thing again through BBCExchange. I might try resubmitting one of them, they are nice Reggie's.
I was digging through the Pop Reports to check these BK sets. To show how really tough these cards are, I checked how many PSA 10's have been given for each set:
1977 Yankees - 21 1978 Yankees - 1 (Reggie Jackson) 1978 Tigers - 0 1978 Astros - 0 1978 Rangers - 0 1979 Phillies - 0 1979 Yankees - 8 1980 Phillies - 1 (Pete Rose, that card has gotta be worth a small fortune) 1980 PHR - 0 (out of about 300 submitted!)
I thought that 80 Phillies Rose card seemed kinda easy. I've gotten tons of nice ones from packs but as you can see, I wound up with 4 8's. Maybe tougher than I thought.
A) Which of the BK sets are/were available by vending Are these cards simply hard in 10, or also hard in 9? C) What % of submissions are 9/10 or 8/9/10? D) For some of the lesser-known Burger King sets, is anyone actually grading these out? For example, on the Burger King Rangers, you have one collector who has graded out one set. Not really what I would call a critical mass in terms of sample size. The Phillies and Yankees sets seem to be most popular, but I expect that many more of these will pop out of the woodwork in high grade should anyone ever start to place a high value on them. Currently, the value of commons in PSA 8/9 really is quite limited to a small handful of collectors that will generally not pay a premium over the grading fees.
~ms
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78 Tigers were only available in the cellophane packs - thus the crappy corners. I'm sure there is a Detroit PSA 10 out there somewhere waiting to be graded, but I haven't seen anything close. A lot of 9's are suspect in this set in my opinion because of centering issues.
Collecting all graded Alan Trammell graded cards as well as graded 1984 Topps, Donruss, and Fleer Detroit Tigers
The Burger King Tigers set is the greatest set ever. They were my first baseball cards. I can vividly remember the sunny day in 1978 when the Burger King employee gave me a pack with Jason Thompson on top because I told him he was my favorite player... he was his favorite, too.
Well. . .after some thought. . .I've decided to do a graded 1980 BK Pitch, Hit, & Run set. Ideally in all PSA9, but we'll see. I can never see doing a full-size (600+ card) regular-issue set again, but the 80 BK PHR set seems ideal for me - it's small, covers a sentimental card collecing year, and looks like it will be very challenging. So far, I'm all of 1 card in - a PSA9 Ryan I picked up a while ago.
As some of you know, my wife and I are relocating to Columbus, OH. We close on the new house tomorrow, and close on the sale of our old house at the end of the month. When things settle down, I'll begin this set in earnest
A) Which of the BK sets are/were available by vending Are these cards simply hard in 10, or also hard in 9? C) What % of submissions are 9/10 or 8/9/10? D) For some of the lesser-known Burger King sets, is anyone actually grading these out? For example, on the Burger King Rangers, you have one collector who has graded out one set. Not really what I would call a critical mass in terms of sample size. The Phillies and Yankees sets seem to be most popular, but I expect that many more of these will pop out of the woodwork in high grade should anyone ever start to place a high value on them. Currently, the value of commons in PSA 8/9 really is quite limited to a small handful of collectors that will generally not pay a premium over the grading fees.
~ms >>
Well, from what I've heard, the only ones issued in vending boxes were the 77 Yankees and the 79 Yankees, which makes sense on the 10's. Possibly the 80 PHR sets in vending also, but I'm not sure. As for the Rangers and Astros set, you are right. Not enough of them have been graded yet. But, I've been searching ebay for almost 2 years and I've never seen a box of Astros or Rangers for sale. They seem to be very rare. It's also hard to use a percentage yet on the 8/9/10 ratio since people are grading only the best of the best right now. When it gets up to 100 of each card graded, the % would be more accurate. Some cards I have gone through 50 examples to grade only 1 so the % would be screwed upwards as compared to mass grading. But, with only the finest examples being graded right now, the lack of 10's shows the difficultly.
that was my 1978 Reggie Jackson BK PSA 10 from a sub! Long since sold though.
I bought a raw set off eBay for the Nettles and wound up sending in Nettles, Munson and Jackson. Nettles and Munson came back 8's and I got a 10 on the Jackson.
Patrick
Looking for additions or upgrades to my Graig Nettles master player set on the registry.
I saw them all week and I kept debating on buying them. Then near the end, I noticed my main competition had bid on 2 of them. Well, I decided that I couldn't let that happen. Considering there is only 8 ever graded, 3 of them at once is a big chunk. I figured if anybody else bought these, I may never see them on the open market for years so I couldn't pass them up.
<< <i> Considering there is only 8 ever graded, 3 of them at once is a big chunk. I figured if anybody else bought these, I may never see them on the open market for years so I couldn't pass them up. >>
Nice pick-ups.
I purchased a number of 1981 Topps Philadelphia Phillies PSA 10s from GATOR a few years ago, under the same premise, and I never have seen most of those again.
If only I could find the Phillies Burger King cards in as nice as shape.
~ms
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Freehomepage won't let me post my Trammell. So I'll have to shrink it down and post it as a clickable image...
What do you guys think?
jimtb@cfl.rr.com
Thanks,
Jim
Let me know if you are planning on selling any of the Tigers. Including the nice Tram you've got there...
By the way, that weighting for the Tigers set sounds good to me. I hate it when sets aren't weighted. I noticed that a new guy took over the top spot. I need to submit my set to see where I rank.
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<< <i>Wow, let the bidding begin. I don't think I've ever seen this card for sale on Ebay. Considering a Jack Morris PSA 8 goes for around $30, what will this go for? It says it's a Pop 4 and it is by far the most sought after of all the BK cards. I only mention it because I have no intention of participating in the frenzy that will probably follow. Sorry if I ruined it for anybody else but the die-hard guys will find it anyways.
By the way, that weighting for the Tigers set sounds good to me. I hate it when sets aren't weighted. I noticed that a new guy took over the top spot. I need to submit my set to see where I rank. >>
You'll never make it to number 1 without getting in the frenzy!!!
jimtb, how could you possibly part with your delicious Trammell 9? It's a very special rarity!
I got another nice-looking Trammell in an ebay set last week (along with an off-centered Lou and Jack). It's somewhere between 8 and 9 quality (great centering)... if I got a 9 on that one, I'd trade it for a Whitaker/Morris 9 combo. Unfortunately, there are no Morris 9's yet!
8 31511183 1977 BURGER KING 1 BILLY MARTIN YANKEES 8
9 31511184 1977 BURGER KING 3 FRAN HEALY YANKEES 9
9 31511185 1977 BURGER KING 3 FRAN HEALY YANKEES 9
10 31511186 1977 BURGER KING 4 JIM HUNTER YANKEES 8
11 31511187 1977 BURGER KING 6 DON GULLETT YANKEES 10
11 31511188 1977 BURGER KING 6 DON GULLETT YANKEES 9
12 31511189 1977 BURGER KING 7 MIKE TORREZ YANKEES 9
13 31511190 1977 BURGER KING 8 KEN HOLTZMAN YANKEES 8
14 31511191 1977 BURGER KING 9 DICK TIDROW YANKEES 9
14 31511192 1977 BURGER KING 9 DICK TIDROW YANKEES 10
15 31511193 1977 BURGER KING 10 SPARKY LYLE YANKEES 8
16 31511194 1977 BURGER KING 11 RON GUIDRY YANKEES 9
16 31511195 1977 BURGER KING 11 RON GUIDRY YANKEES 8
16 31511196 1977 BURGER KING 11 RON GUIDRY YANKEES 8
17 31511197 1977 BURGER KING 12 CHRIS CHAMBLISS YANKEES 8
18 31511198 1977 BURGER KING 14 BUCKY DENT YANKEES 9
19 31511199 1977 BURGER KING 15 GRAIG NETTLES YANKEES 9
19 31511200 1977 BURGER KING 15 GRAIG NETTLES YANKEES 9
20 31511201 1977 BURGER KING 19 ROY WHITE YANKEES 9
20 31511202 1977 BURGER KING 19 ROY WHITE YANKEES 9
21 31511203 1977 BURGER KING 20 JIM WYNN YANKEES 9
22 31511204 1977 BURGER KING 21 PAUL BLAIR YANKEES 9
22 31511205 1977 BURGER KING 21 PAUL BLAIR YANKEES 9
23 31511206 1977 BURGER KING 23 LOU PINIELLA YANKEES 8
Date Received: 02/28/2006
Date of Grades Posted: 04/18/2006
Date Shipped: No Date Specified
I was very pleased with the results. I know how hard it is to get 9s on BK cards. The 10s were a complete surprise.
I think both the Tidrow and Gullett 10s and 9s are each 1/1. The Jim Wynn 9 is also 1/1.
Haven't updated my set yet. I am listed in the registry as Tom D.
If you want to help me upgrade my 8s to 9s in my set, I will be happy to trade my duplicate 9s if you have any that I don't.
Have you made your submission yet?
Tom
I have had the Piniella since '77 when the set was issued. Yes, should be a good race to #1.
I'm hoping we can help each other out with some trades once you get yours graded. Good luck in your quest to be the King of Burger King.
Good to see the Burger King thread back up on the forum as well. Its been a while.
'77 Munson
Steve, are you getting in on this one?
<< <i>Just saw this one on ebay.....wonder where it ends
'77 Munson
Steve, are you getting in on this one? >>
If all goes well that will end up in my collection
-- Yogi Berra
These are the three nicest three. Four more 8's to go along with 'em. Two more Schmidts, a rose (better centered then the one pictured, and another Carlton but an 8.
When I saw that Munson, I had to click and see if it was legit. I checked the Pop Report and to my surprise it is a Pop4! With the tons of nice sets that BBCExchange has sold lately, I think that 77's will prove to not be that tough. From what I've seen so far, the toughest sets will be the 78 Astros and 78 Rangers followed by the 78 Tigers and the 80 PHR. Speaking of 80 PHR, I've noticed some of the Runners at the end of the set are super tough. I've bought about 20 sets and opened about a couple boxes worth of packs and there is still cards that I haven't ben able to find in PSA 8 condition.
I just sent off the rest of my Tigers cards which will complete that set for me and some more 80 PHR cards. A guy named Michael Clum is making a run at all the sets like I am and he dethroned me recently. Congrats to him but I'm coming back with a vengence. I have a few of the Pop 1 PSA 9's from that set and I'm not budging with them. Here's a link to that. Pitch, Hit and Run holds a special meaning to me because when I was a kid, I participated on that event one summer against a couple hundred other kids. I took first place in hitting and pitching and won a big overall trophy. I plan on never resting until I retake 1st place on that set.
I'm also planning on sending in my 77's next week to complete that set. I also have the 79 and 80 Phillies set ready to go and they are complete also. I have some really nice 78 and 79 Yankees ready to go also but I have to pick my fights one at a time.
I was flipping through an old beckett recently and I saw a listing for 1982 Burger King Cleveland Indians. Has anybody ever heard of that set or seen it? I've never seen any on EBay.
Keep your '77s at bay for a few weeks so I can claim the Set Registry Award for this year. After this year, someone will likely pass me.
Tom
Anyway, I'm sending off 4 Schmidt, 5 Carlton, a Rose, and a Luzinski, plus a Reggie from the 79 Yankees. I also have about 5 raw sets worth of cards which should yield a bunch of 8s and 9s (for commons) if you choose to send them off.
PM me if interested.
Lee
79 BK 1
79 BK 2
79 BK 3
Lee
Those are some really nice examples, of Carlton in particular. I was never able to pull more than an 8 on any of the boxes I opened - but it seems like you scored some phenomenal examples. Good luck and cheers!
p.s. I am interested in commons from the set, too, if you purchased any of the Phillies 'lesser knowns' that you were not planning to submit.
So ou still have an extra 1977 Burger King Nettles? I need one for my registry and would be glad to purchase it from you. Please email me if available at pjray55@aol.com.
Thanks,
Patrick
In regards to the 1980 PHR set, I'm starting to notice which cards are tough that I thought I would share with you guys. So far, I've bought about 100 packs and about 40-50 complete sets. One that is really surprising me is the Pete Rose from that set. The card is constantly off center and never cut clean. It looks just like the regular 1980 card and the 1980 BK Phillies card but it is much much tougher than those two. I just checked the pop report and there is 4 8's, 0 9's and 0 10's so that proves my suspicion. This might wind up being one of the toughest Rose's out there. I just bought 35 sets from Kruk cards (which are really nice by the way), and while going through one after another of crap Rose's, there is was, bingo. A gorgeous Rose, it must be a freak of nature. Sharp corners and near perfect centering. I was beginning to think one didn't exist. Even in Michael Clum's set, which is #1 right now (not for long though), he only has a 7. I've yet to find one that even looked like an 8 before I found this one.
Another tough one is the Rod Carew, I haven't seen anything closely resembling a 9 on that one either. Also the Rollie Fingers was giving me problems too. A 9 doesn't exist yet in the Carew or the Fingers. Also, many of the cards at the end of the set and really tough too, but most of them are the commons from the set. I had the Pop 1 PSA 9 Brett until another one was recently graded. I still own the Pop 1 PSA 9 Reggie Jackson and I'm hoping that it stays that way for a while. A couple more tough ones are Don Baylor and George Foster. No 9's yet on those either.
I'll probably get to the point where I can see myself seriously overpaying for these cards if I can't eventually grade my own 9.
Nice pickup on the Piniella. Let me know when you get your '77s back. Maybe we can work out some trades.
Tom
Oh yeah, and if you notice, the 78 BK Alan Trammell PSA 8 in this sub is the same PSA 6 that I posted here. It's sad that I have to pay grading fees twice to have it correctly graded when all the graders should be on the same page down there.
1 31665178 1975 TOPPS 70 MIKE SCHMIDT N/A 7
2 31665179 1975 TOPPS 80 CARLTON FISK N/A 8
3 31665180 1975 TOPPS 149 TIM FOLI N/A 8
4 31665181 1975 TOPPS 188 TOM GRIFFIN N/A 8
5 31665182 1975 TOPPS 233 BILLY GRABARKEWITZ N/A 8
6 31665183 1975 TOPPS 370 TOM SEAVER N/A 8
7 31665184 1975 TOPPS 416 LARRY LINTZ N/A 8
8 31665185 1975 TOPPS 421 METS TEAM YOGI BERRA, MGR. 8
9 31665186 1975 TOPPS 431 ROD GILBREATH N/A 8
10 31665187 1975 TOPPS 451 RICK DEMPSEY N/A 9
11 31665188 1975 TOPPS 485 SPARKY LYLE N/A Not Holdered, Did not meet Minimum Size Requirements
12 31665189 1975 TOPPS 598 BRUCE KISON N/A 8
13 31665190 1975 TOPPS 645 DANNY CATER N/A 7
14 31665191 1977 BURGER KING 2 THURMAN MUNSON YANKEES 8
15 31665192 1977 BURGER KING 17 REGGIE JACKSON YANKEES 8
15 31665193 1977 BURGER KING 17 REGGIE JACKSON YANKEES 8
15 31665194 1977 BURGER KING 17 REGGIE JACKSON YANKEES 8
16 31665195 1978 BURGER KING 21 REGGIE JACKSON YANKEES 9
17 31665196 1978 BURGER KING CHECKLIST 1-22 TIGERS 5
18 31665197 1978 BURGER KING 1 RALPH HOUK TIGERS 7
19 31665198 1978 BURGER KING 2 MILT MAY TIGERS 8
20 31665199 1978 BURGER KING 3 JOHNNY WOCKENFUSS TIGERS 8
21 31665200 1978 BURGER KING 4 MARK FIDRYCH TIGERS 8
22 31665201 1978 BURGER KING 5 DAVE ROZEMA TIGERS 8
23 31665202 1978 BURGER KING 6 JACK BILLINGHAM TIGERS 8
24 31665203 1978 BURGER KING 7 JIM SLATON TIGERS 8
25 31665204 1978 BURGER KING 9 JOHN HILLER TIGERS 8
26 31665205 1978 BURGER KING 10 STEVE FOUCAULT TIGERS 7
27 31665206 1978 BURGER KING 11 MILT WILCOX TIGERS 5
28 31665207 1978 BURGER KING 12 JASON THOMPSON TIGERS 8
29 31665208 1978 BURGER KING 13 LOU WHITAKER TIGERS 8
30 31665209 1978 BURGER KING 14 AURELIO RODRIGUEZ TIGERS 9
31 31665210 1978 BURGER KING 15 ALAN TRAMMELL TIGERS 8
32 31665211 1978 BURGER KING 16 STEVE DILLARD TIGERS 8
33 31665212 1978 BURGER KING 17 PHIL MANKOWSKI TIGERS 8
34 31665213 1978 BURGER KING 18 STEVE KEMP TIGERS 8
35 31665214 1978 BURGER KING 19 RON LeFLORE TIGERS 7
36 31665215 1978 BURGER KING 20 TIM CORCORAN TIGERS 8
37 31665216 1978 BURGER KING 21 MICKEY STANLEY TIGERS 8
38 31665217 1978 BURGER KING 22 RUSTY STAUB TIGERS 8
39 31665218 1979 BURGER KING 16 MIKE SCHMIDT PHILLIES 9
39 31665219 1979 BURGER KING 16 MIKE SCHMIDT PHILLIES 8
40 31665220 1979 TOPPS 237 BILLY SMITH N/A 9
41 31665221 1980 BURGER KING 4 PETE ROSE PHILLIES 8
41 31665222 1980 BURGER KING 4 PETE ROSE PHILLIES 8
41 31665223 1980 BURGER KING 4 PETE ROSE PHILLIES 8
41 31665224 1980 BURGER KING 4 PETE ROSE PHILLIES 8
42 31665225 1980 BURGER KING 6 MIKE SCHMIDT PHILLIES 8
42 31665226 1980 BURGER KING 6 MIKE SCHMIDT PHILLIES 8
43 31665227 1980 BURGER KING 15 STEVE CARLTON PHILLIES 8
43 31665228 1980 BURGER KING 15 STEVE CARLTON PHILLIES 8
44 31665229 1980 TOPPS 720 CARL YASTRZEMSKI N/A 9
45 31665230 1980 BURGER KING CHECKLIST 1-33 PITCH, HIT & RUN 9
46 31665231 1980 BURGER KING 2 STEVE CARLTON PITCH, HIT & RUN 8
47 31665232 1980 BURGER KING 6 PHIL NIEKRO PITCH, HIT & RUN 8
48 31665233 1980 BURGER KING 7 JIM PALMER PITCH, HIT & RUN 8
49 31665234 1980 BURGER KING 8 J.R. RICHARD PITCH, HIT & RUN 8
50 31665235 1980 BURGER KING 9 NOLAN RYAN PITCH, HIT & RUN 9
50 31665236 1980 BURGER KING 9 NOLAN RYAN PITCH, HIT & RUN 9
51 31665237 1980 BURGER KING 11 BRUCE SUTTER PITCH, HIT & RUN 9
52 31665238 1980 BURGER KING 16 KEITH HERNANDEZ PITCH, HIT & RUN 8
53 31665239 1980 BURGER KING 18 FRED LYNN PITCH, HIT & RUN 8
54 31665240 1980 BURGER KING 19 DAVE PARKER PITCH, HIT & RUN 8
55 31665241 1980 BURGER KING 21 PETE ROSE PITCH, HIT & RUN 8
56 31665242 1980 BURGER KING 22 DAVE WINFIELD PITCH, HIT & RUN 8
57 31665243 1980 BURGER KING 31 BILL NORTH PITCH, HIT & RUN 8
58 31665244 1980 BURGER KING 33 WILLIE WILSON PITCH, HIT & RUN 9
59 31665245 1981 COCA-COLA 8 PETE ROSE N/A 8
59 31665246 1981 COCA-COLA 8 PETE ROSE N/A 8
59 31665247 1981 COCA-COLA 8 PETE ROSE N/A 8
59 31665248 1981 COCA-COLA 8 PETE ROSE N/A 8
59 31665249 1981 COCA-COLA 8 PETE ROSE N/A 7
59 31665250 1981 COCA-COLA 8 PETE ROSE N/A 9
60 31665251 1964 TOPPS 181 DAVE WICKERSHAM N/A 8
61 31665252 1965 TOPPS 48 CLAUDE RAYMOND N/A 8
62 31665253 1989 FLEER 616 BILL RIPKEN SCRIBBLE OVER ERROR 9
63 31665254 1990 FLEER 271 ROGER CLEMENS N/A 8
64 31665255 1991 CLASSIC T65 ROGER CLEMENS SERIES II 10
65 31665256 1977 TOPPS MEXICAN 81 MEL GRAY N/A 6
66 31665257 1977 TOPPS MEXICAN 283 TOM DeLEONE N/A 7
67 31665258 1977 TOPPS MEXICAN 294 MIKE ESPOSITO N/A 8
68 31665259 1977 TOPPS MEXICAN 422 TIM FOX N/A 8
69 31665260 1982 TOPPS STICKERS 20 WALTER PAYTON N/A 8
69 31665261 1982 TOPPS STICKERS 20 WALTER PAYTON N/A 8
70 31665262 1982 TOPPS STICKERS 92 LAWRENCE TAYLOR N/A 7
71 31665263 1982 TOPPS STICKERS 120 RONNIE LOTT N/A 7
72 31665264 1984 TOPPS 3 DAN MARINO NFL STAR SET 8
73 31665265 1996 BOWMAN'S BEST 90 BARRY SANDERS N/A 10
74 31665266 1996 BOWMAN'S BEST 115 JOHN ELWAY N/A 10
75 31665267 1996 BOWMAN'S BEST 162 TEDY BRUSCHI N/A 9
76 31665268 1996 BOWMAN'S BEST 164 RAY LEWIS N/A 8
76 31665269 1996 BOWMAN'S BEST 164 RAY LEWIS N/A 8
76 31665270 1996 BOWMAN'S BEST 164 RAY LEWIS N/A 9
76 31665271 1996 BOWMAN'S BEST 164 RAY LEWIS N/A 9
77 31665272 1995 BOWMAN'S BEST 174 AMANI TOOMER N/A 9
78 31665273 1986 FLEER 53 MAGIC JOHNSON N/A 8
79 31665274 1986 FLEER 91 DOC RIVERS N/A 9
80 31665275 1998 BOWMAN'S BEST 60 MICHAEL JORDAN N/A 9
81 31665276 1998 FINEST 81 MICHAEL JORDAN N/A 10
82 31665277 * REFUND DO NOT GRADE N/A Not Holdered, No Holder Available
Congratulations on your grades! You did well on the Tigers. Do you have a Morris? I didn't see one in your submission.
I was hoping you'd have some more '77 BKs in your submission that I could trade for.
Enjoy! Thanks for keeping the BK thread going!
1977 Yankees - 21
1978 Yankees - 1 (Reggie Jackson)
1978 Tigers - 0
1978 Astros - 0
1978 Rangers - 0
1979 Phillies - 0
1979 Yankees - 8
1980 Phillies - 1 (Pete Rose, that card has gotta be worth a small fortune)
1980 PHR - 0 (out of about 300 submitted!)
I thought that 80 Phillies Rose card seemed kinda easy. I've gotten tons of nice ones from packs but as you can see, I wound up with 4 8's. Maybe tougher than I thought.
I'll have to check out my other BK raw sets.
Interesting data, but a few thoughts stick out:
A) Which of the BK sets are/were available by vending
C) What % of submissions are 9/10 or 8/9/10?
D) For some of the lesser-known Burger King sets, is anyone actually grading these out? For example, on the Burger King Rangers, you have one collector who has graded out one set. Not really what I would call a critical mass in terms of sample size. The Phillies and Yankees sets seem to be most popular, but I expect that many more of these will pop out of the woodwork in high grade should anyone ever start to place a high value on them. Currently, the value of commons in PSA 8/9 really is quite limited to a small handful of collectors that will generally not pay a premium over the grading fees.
~ms
As some of you know, my wife and I are relocating to Columbus, OH. We close on the new house tomorrow, and close on the sale of our old house at the end of the month. When things settle down, I'll begin this set in earnest
Mike
<< <i>Steve:
Interesting data, but a few thoughts stick out:
A) Which of the BK sets are/were available by vending
C) What % of submissions are 9/10 or 8/9/10?
D) For some of the lesser-known Burger King sets, is anyone actually grading these out? For example, on the Burger King Rangers, you have one collector who has graded out one set. Not really what I would call a critical mass in terms of sample size. The Phillies and Yankees sets seem to be most popular, but I expect that many more of these will pop out of the woodwork in high grade should anyone ever start to place a high value on them. Currently, the value of commons in PSA 8/9 really is quite limited to a small handful of collectors that will generally not pay a premium over the grading fees.
~ms >>
Well, from what I've heard, the only ones issued in vending boxes were the 77 Yankees and the 79 Yankees, which makes sense on the 10's. Possibly the 80 PHR sets in vending also, but I'm not sure. As for the Rangers and Astros set, you are right. Not enough of them have been graded yet. But, I've been searching ebay for almost 2 years and I've never seen a box of Astros or Rangers for sale. They seem to be very rare. It's also hard to use a percentage yet on the 8/9/10 ratio since people are grading only the best of the best right now. When it gets up to 100 of each card graded, the % would be more accurate. Some cards I have gone through 50 examples to grade only 1 so the % would be screwed upwards as compared to mass grading. But, with only the finest examples being graded right now, the lack of 10's shows the difficultly.
I bought a raw set off eBay for the Nettles and wound up sending in Nettles, Munson and Jackson. Nettles and Munson came back 8's and I got a 10 on the Jackson.
Patrick
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I saw them all week and I kept debating on buying them. Then near the end, I noticed my main competition had bid on 2 of them. Well, I decided that I couldn't let that happen. Considering there is only 8 ever graded, 3 of them at once is a big chunk. I figured if anybody else bought these, I may never see them on the open market for years so I couldn't pass them up.
<< <i> Considering there is only 8 ever graded, 3 of them at once is a big chunk. I figured if anybody else bought these, I may never see them on the open market for years so I couldn't pass them up. >>
Nice pick-ups.
I purchased a number of 1981 Topps Philadelphia Phillies PSA 10s from GATOR a few years ago, under the same premise, and I never have seen most of those again.
If only I could find the Phillies Burger King cards in as nice as shape.
~ms