...OUCH! I keep my posts clean and try to be the voice of reason, make nice with you and you toss THAT out there...and you didn't even spell it correctly! It reminds me of the Jewish kid in "Porky's"..."You're even too dumb to be a good biggot."
The point is, I tried to explain my viewpoint since I was mentioned in the thread--I felt it was relevant to the rant. Why'dya have to go and get personal Ronald? You should try a sniping service and bid the moon on some class.
You certainly lost credit with me on this one, but truth be told, I never believed you anyway...not too sure anybody else could possibly, either.
This thread could have ended after a few posts. rbd is a liar. It's that simple. NOBODY, unless they have actual mental defiencies, would have to retract 23 bids. That's simple someone trying to see what others are bidding. All the other stuff, should Zef have brought it back up, etc... is irrelevant. In my opinion once you have about 2 or 3 bid retractions they should kick you off Ebay and make you start over. Total BS. In my opinion this guy is just a total scum bag! "I bid fast and furious." Whatever. You are a cheat.
<< <i>This thread could have ended after a few posts. rbd is a liar. It's that simple. NOBODY, unless they have actual mental defiencies, would have to retract 23 bids. That's simple someone trying to see what others are bidding. All the other stuff, should Zef have brought it back up, etc... is irrelevant. In my opinion once you have about 2 or 3 bid retractions they should kick you off Ebay and make you start over. Total BS. In my opinion this guy is just a total scum bag! "I bid fast and furious." Whatever. You are a cheat. >>
Just who in the H E L L do you think you are Larry? You don't know me, yet you come out on a public forum call me a scum bag, liar and a cheat?
It is not uncommon for me to bid on 200 to 400 items per week. And no, my bid retractions for the most part are just plain keyboard type-o's, and to a lesser degree, not reading a description correctly (i.e., bidding on a card and then noticing it was a qualifier, or bidding on a PSA 10, only to find out that it was actually a PSA 9, and card # 10, are a few common examples.). If I need to retract a bid because of not reading a description correctly, and the seller did not revise his description, per ebay rules, I would first eMail and ask the seller permission to retract my bid. I little problems with sellers on that subject.
So let me get this straight, you are saying my bid retractions are to see what someone else is bidding? So if I was bidding 9.99 and I hit 99.9, by accident, I want to see what someone else is bidding? Thats silly? I would just retract and correct. Only if there are multiple bidders, would I even take notice as to other people's bids. What would you like me to do Larry? Not look at any other bidders' bids when I type in my corrected bid? That's not cheating! ebay needs to have bid retractions, not as you say to see other bids and to cheat, but as a corrective device.
My retracted bids are way less than 1% of my total bids, and yes I wll try to clean-up my mistakes and read descriptions closer, but larryallen, senior member, I'm no cheat, far from it!
I thought I was finished with this topic, but I see I have to deal with the likes of you and I am forced to lower myself , "TO LARRY'S VERY LOW LEVEL" and defend myself here!
Larry, I don't know you (and I see I don't EVER want to! For if you called me a cheat, scumbag and liar to my face, "a world of hurt could come down", and we don't that cr@ p do we!) Anyone that believes someone should be booted off ebay with 2 or 3 bid retractions, is just "spewing c r@ p" here, and doesn't not really know what their talking about.
I simply make a lot of bids, easily 10,000 to 15,000 bids per year! I may bid on every single item a seller has listed in a certain category, go right down the line, one card after another, bid on them all, and yes Larry, if i made a mistake, I'd just correct it! But it has never been a problem, just correct it and submit it again! period! But not to as you say Larry, to cheat! That's nuts! I didn't even know I had bid 22 retractions. I will try to be careful from now on, when I place bids, but I NEVER cheated!
I do bid differently than most. Not better, just different! I'm sorry to dissapoint you Larry, if thats your real name but I'm not a cheat, and again, you don't know me, so please don't call me a scum bag, cheat on a public forum, ok?
I never thought my bid retractions would bother anyone, as they happen "one at a time".
I NEVER had a bid retraction that had anything to do with cheating, period!
...OUCH! I keep my posts clean and try to be the voice of reason, make nice with you and you toss THAT out there...and you didn't even spell it correctly! It reminds me of the Jewish kid in "Porky's"..."You're even too dumb to be a good biggot."
The point is, I tried to explain my viewpoint since I was mentioned in the thread--I felt it was relevant to the rant. Why'dya have to go and get personal Ronald? You should try a sniping service and bid the moon on some class.
You certainly lost credit with me on this one, but truth be told, I never believed you anyway...not too sure anybody else could possibly, either.
dgf >>
downgoesfrazier,
LOL! Didn't think you were a "follow the herd guy"? I've been wrong before! (yea, 'spell check' is cool, thanks dukie!) I can only imagine if my incorrect bid was, lets say, $290 (instead of $ 2.90), I'm sure your new collecting pal would be delighted to sell you that "well-centered" Bill Madlock card for a snipe price of $ 295.00 (such a deal!). What am I saying? If you had to pay $ 295 for that bill madlock card, I guess you wouldn't call zef your new collecting pal now would you? Yes dgf, I'll take that "as you described it, a "marginal PSA 9 Chambliss card" for my $ 2.90 winning bid, and you can have the Bill Madlock card at $ 311 (Which was your high "to the moon", as you called it, snipe bid, for a card worth easily ten times less!). Yea right, see you at Porky's dude! Oh yeah! The truth be told, I never believed for one minute, you wanted to pay $ 311 for a 1977 Bill Madlock! Yea man dgf, my opinion of you is now kinda low! (dgf, is that how you spell "kinda" dukie? rbd
P.S. What an outstanding PSA Registry '77 you amassed (dgf, did I spell ammased correctly?), congrats for spending years cracking packs & boxes, looking thru loops at raw material, trading, buying, bidding, shows, etc. I know once you got passed with the easy ones, just hard it is to find those others. Too bad you had to be the one, who was the underbidder of the madlock card. I do care that folks like you don't believe my $555 bid was a mistake. It was! I know you broke no rules with your sniped $311 bid, but of all auctions to do that, the very one I screwed-up on? Well maybe it was karma, that you got the card? Based on the unbelievable cards I saw in your retired set, you deserve the card more than I. With the exception of a few years of set building (1977 not being one of them!), I'm just a "type collector" of certain high end material, and I thought the Bill Madlock was a good buy to "salt away", plus I liked buying from zef, as he offered me great service (i.e., packaging and super-fast shipping!) the few times I dealt with him. I trya loyal buyer! In any event, I was "let off the hook" by zef, and you got the card you wanted.
I just had to agree 100% with what 97% of the board members had to say. This guy ruins the auctions by bidding far above the value to make sure he gets his item at any cost. When he runs into another bidder doing the same thing, his wonderful plan of attack falls apart. Besides entering his amount and hitting enter, he had to comfirm his bid with another button press, see that he was the high bidder and find his $555.00 bid in My Ebay. All of this while receiving an E-mail confimation confiming his bid.
23 bid retractions is way too excessive in my opinion. One time in my life on the bay did I enter a wrong amount and it was my 3rd transaction. I entered $200.00 instead of $20.00 and ended up winning the auction for $93.00. I sure did not plan on paying almost $100 with shipping for a 1966 topps #365 Roger Maris, but I had to. It was my mistake and I had to be accountable. I wanted to blame my fat fingers, my fast and furious bidding and the L.A.P.D. for my error, but Mom and Dad always said to step up and be a Man. I payed my bill, received my 1st positive feedback, submitted that card to GAI (hey, I was new) and received a 7.5.
My point in all this is people use the bid retraction to see what other people bid and to find out what the amount of the reserve is in reserve auctions. 23 retractions in 6 months is once a week??? People like this are taking advantage of a loophole in the system. Ebay needs to close this gap and start treating people that do this in the same class as scammers and auction interferers. They need to be kicked off. This guy should be so ASHAMED and EMBARRASSED, I can't believe he is still here defending his actions. I would run and hide and not come back till I had a new ID. The minimum is he should be banned from these forums and blocked from bidding on everyone's auctions. He is not worth the hassle of having him as a high bidder. He makes Ebay just a little bit darker and less fun. I feel a little dirty with him around.
I think you're all fu@ked in the head. We're ten hours from the fu@king fun park and you want to bail out. Well I'll tell you something. This is no longer a vacation. It's a quest. It's a quest for fun. I'm gonna have fun and you're gonna have fun. We're all gonna have so much fu@king fun we'll need plastic surgeory to remove our godamn smiles. You'll be whistling 'Zip-A-Dee Doo-Dah' out of you're a**holes! I gotta be crazy! I'm on a pilgrimage to see a moose. Praise Marty Moose! Holy Sh*t!
REMEMBER FOLKS, IT'S JUST A CARD IN A PIECE OF PLASTIC, THINK BACK ON ALL THOSE BEANIE BABIES YOU BOUGHT AND HOW YOUR WIFE LAUGHS AT YOU NOW FOR THAT INVESTMENT!!! YOU FOOL!!!
<< <i>I just had to agree 100% with what 97% of the board members had to say. This guy ruins the auctions by bidding far above the value to make sure he gets his item at any cost. When he runs into another bidder doing the same thing, his wonderful plan of attack falls apart. Besides entering his amount and hitting enter, he had to comfirm his bid with another button press, see that he was the high bidder and find his $555.00 bid in My Ebay. All of this while receiving an E-mail confimation confiming his bid.
23 bid retractions is way too excessive in my opinion. One time in my life on the bay did I enter a wrong amount and it was my 3rd transaction. I entered $200.00 instead of $20.00 and ended up winning the auction for $93.00. I sure did not plan on paying almost $100 with shipping for a 1966 topps #365 Roger Maris, but I had to. It was my mistake and I had to be accountable. I wanted to blame my fat fingers, my fast and furious bidding and the L.A.P.D. for my error, but Mom and Dad always said to step up and be a Man. I payed my bill, received my 1st positive feedback, submitted that card to GAI (hey, I was new) and received a 7.5.
My point in all this is people use the bid retraction to see what other people bid and to find out what the amount of the reserve is in reserve auctions. 23 retractions in 6 months is once a week??? People like this are taking advantage of a loophole in the system. Ebay needs to close this gap and start treating people that do this in the same class as scammers and auction interferers. They need to be kicked off. This guy should be so ASHAMED and EMBARRASSED, I can't believe he is still here defending his actions. I would run and hide and not come back till I had a new ID. The minimum is he should be banned from these forums and blocked from bidding on everyone's auctions. He is not worth the hassle of having him as a high bidder. He makes Ebay just a little bit darker and less fun. I feel a little dirty with him around.
I think you're all fu@ked in the head. We're ten hours from the fu@king fun park and you want to bail out. Well I'll tell you something. This is no longer a vacation. It's a quest. It's a quest for fun. I'm gonna have fun and you're gonna have fun. We're all gonna have so much fu@king fun we'll need plastic surgeory to remove our godamn smiles. You'll be whistling 'Zip-A-Dee Doo-Dah' out of you're a**holes! I gotta be crazy! I'm on a pilgrimage to see a moose. Praise Marty Moose! Holy Sh*t!
REMEMBER FOLKS, IT'S JUST A CARD IN A PIECE OF PLASTIC, THINK BACK ON ALL THOSE BEANIE BABIES YOU BOUGHT AND HOW YOUR WIFE LAUGHS AT YOU NOW FOR THAT INVESTMENT!!! YOU FOOL!!! >>
Robeson, you simply got it wrong, like many others here!
That bid WAS a mistake, a type-o, an error period! I did not think about other bids, I simply just left a decimil out, period. An underbidder who happened to have a snipe bid for $ 311 for this card that is worth in my opionion no more than $25.00 to $35.00 on its best day, triggered the problem. This underbidder, tried to defend his $ 311.00 high as price he was willing to pay for a 1977 Bill Madlock card. I'm not sure just why he would put a bid in that high? But he did, and if that was how much he was willing to pay, so be it!
For the 100th time, I did not put a $555 bid in to see what others were bidding, for God's sake, for most of the 1977s I bid on that day I was the only bidder, or at the most just 2 bidders, as was the case with this card! I was just a mistake! There was no need for me to know what others were bidding, it just wasn't the case!
I didn't even notice my error until the auction was over! That's what happened. I did not want to pay $ 316.00 for that card, and I eMailed the seller about my mistake, he did not force me to honor a "binding contract".
And, yes you got it wrong about my bid retractions, I was not interested in others' bids, just bidding errors on my part. Thats it! If you do not believe it, I can't help that! But its the truth!
rbd
edit: If I wanted to retract my bids to see what others have bid, I would have 100s of retractions. But i didn't do that! Why can't you guys get thru your very thick heads, these retractions were just errors!
<< 23 bid retractions is way too excessive in my opinion. One time in my life on the bay did I enter a wrong amount and it was my 3rd transaction. I entered $200.00 instead of $20.00 and ended up winning the auction for $93.00. I sure did not plan on paying almost $100 with shipping for a 1966 topps #365 Roger Maris, but I had to. It was my mistake and I had to be accountable. I wanted to blame my fat fingers, my fast and furious bidding and the L.A.P.D. for my error, but Mom and Dad always said to step up and be a Man. I payed my bill, received my 1st positive feedback, submitted that card to GAI (hey, I was new) and received a 7.5. >>
Roberson,
Congrats! For honoring you high bid in the example above. Nothing wrong with that! But you did have another honorable option, if you so desired. You could have simply eMailed the seller, explaining your bidding error, and ask him to "let you off the hook". If the seller said no, then you may honor your high bid and pay for the item. But if the seller agreed with you, and said "ok", then you would not have to overpay for the item. In my case, I chose to email the seller for relief, and he did agree.
Roberson, if you bid on my auctions, and emailed me explaining your error, and I saw that indeed you were overpaying for an item, I as a seller, would let you off the hook. Others here say no, they would make you pay. That's the seller's choice. But there is nothing dishonorable in asking a seller to "kill a deal", if an error occurred. I think the few that said, they would make a buyer pay, because it is a "binding contract" would reconsider, if a buyer asked them to, because of a bidding error.
Anyway, if one wants to just go ahead and pay 10 to 100 times more for an item because of an incorrect bed, without first asking the seller if he would let you off, thats your choice. There is no dishonor in asking first!
I am not taking sides, but aside from this transaction and possibly the bid retractions, rbdjr1 has received over 5,418 positive feedbacks and has 1 negative. His overall feedback rating is 99.9%.
...OUCH! I keep my posts clean and try to be the voice of reason, make nice with you and you toss THAT out there...and you didn't even spell it correctly! It reminds me of the Jewish kid in "Porky's"..."You're even too dumb to be a good biggot."
The point is, I tried to explain my viewpoint since I was mentioned in the thread--I felt it was relevant to the rant. Why'dya have to go and get personal Ronald? You should try a sniping service and bid the moon on some class.
You certainly lost credit with me on this one, but truth be told, I never believed you anyway...not too sure anybody else could possibly, either.
dgf >>
downgoesfrazier,
Question: You've been a member of this thread since 2002, but your a "newbie" to ebay with a feedback of 37, and it states you've been a member for only six months? Your new eBay ID: phil_apostle (as one has to assume it is a new user ID). You care to explain that? downgoesfrazier, please do use "your voice of reason" for your answer!
P.S. dgf, no thanks! I do not want a snipe service, so I can "bid to the moon" like you and your $311.00 high snipe bid of a Bill Madlock card that I'm quite sure was worth about 25 dollars on a good day. Nope, I'll leave that trickery to the likes of you!
<< <i>I do not want a snipe service, so I can "bid to the moon" like you and your $311.00 high snipe bid of a Bill Madlock card that I'm quite sure was worth about 25 dollars on a good day. Nope, I'll leave that trickery to the likes of you! >>
Was the 311.00 high enough to win this Madlock card? Maybe he typed in the wrong amount? I try to give guys like Phil the benefit of the doubt. He probably uses a snipe service so people won't run him up when he bids the minute the card hits ebay? There are alot of jerks out there and if they see a guy like you or Phil bidding and know you need the card for your set they might just bid you up knowing you have to have the card?
<< <i>Question: You've been a member of this thread since 2002, but your a "newbie" to ebay with a feedback of 37, and it states you've been a member for only six months? Your new eBay ID: phil_apostle (as one has to assume it is a new user ID). You care to explain that? downgoesfrazier, please do use "your voice of reason" for your answer! >>
Bob, Phil has been on ebay for a long time and has several id's like most of us , like you he collects 70;s , you have the #1 76 set , Phil had the #1 77 set until he took it out of the registry. He still has the best set , just not registered and has the greatest collection of 77 topps imaginable so you are wrong on this one. Like you fire all in on certain 76 cards , phil does the same on 77 and is as passionate as anyone so I don;t think he has any explaining to do and I think you owe him an apology
LOL! Didn't think you were a "follow the herd guy"? I've been wrong before! (yea, 'spell check' is cool, thanks dukie!) I can only imagine if my incorrect bid was, lets say, $290 (instead of $ 2.90), I'm sure your new collecting pal would be delighted to sell you that "well-centered" Bill Madlock card for a snipe price of $ 295.00 (such a deal!). What am I saying? If you had to pay $ 295 for that bill madlock card, I guess you wouldn't call zef your new collecting pal now would you? Yes dgf, I'll take that "as you described it, a "marginal PSA 9 Chambliss card" for my $ 2.90 winning bid, and you can have the Bill Madlock card at $ 311 (Which was your high "to the moon", as you called it, snipe bid, for a card worth easily ten times less!). Yea right, see you at Porky's dude! Oh yeah! The truth be told, I never believed for one minute, you wanted to pay $ 311 for a 1977 Bill Madlock! Yea man dgf, my opinion of you is now kinda low! (dgf, is that how you spell "kinda" dukie? rbd >>
RBD
There is no doubt in anyones mind that if DGF won that Madlock card for any amount up to $311 mistake or no mistake he would of paid . Anyone who has ever dealt with him or read his posts on these boards knows he is a stand up guy who is a true collector of high grade material whether its 1952 Topps or 1988 Topps. Unfortunately for you he has the respect factor of most of this board that you do not
Whoever mentioned Crandell ? Yup bang on
RBD if i were you i would go back to spending that Trust money and drop this one
<< <i>Question: You've been a member of this thread since 2002, but your a "newbie" to ebay with a feedback of 37, and it states you've been a member for only six months? Your new eBay ID: phil_apostle (as one has to assume it is a new user ID). You care to explain that? downgoesfrazier, please do use "your voice of reason" for your answer! >>
Bob, Phil has been on ebay for a long time and has several id's like most of us , like you he collects 70;s , you have the #1 76 set , Phil had the #1 77 set until he took it out of the registry. He still has the best set , just not registered and has the greatest collection of 77 topps imaginable so you are wrong on this one. Like you fire all in on certain 76 cards , phil does the same on 77 and is as passionate as anyone so I don;t think he has any explaining to do and I think you owe him an apology >>
<< <i>downgoesfrazier, LOL! Didn't think you were a "follow the herd guy"? I've been wrong before! (yea, 'spell check' is cool, thanks dukie!) I can only imagine if my incorrect bid was, lets say, $290 (instead of $ 2.90), I'm sure your new collecting pal would be delighted to sell you that "well-centered" Bill Madlock card for a snipe price of $ 295.00 (such a deal!). What am I saying? If you had to pay $ 295 for that bill madlock card, I guess you wouldn't call zef your new collecting pal now would you? Yes dgf, I'll take that "as you described it, a "marginal PSA 9 Chambliss card" for my $ 2.90 winning bid, and you can have the Bill Madlock card at $ 311 (Which was your high "to the moon", as you called it, snipe bid, for a card worth easily ten times less!). Yea right, see you at Porky's dude! Oh yeah! The truth be told, I never believed for one minute, you wanted to pay $ 311 for a 1977 Bill Madlock! Yea man dgf, my opinion of you is now kinda low! (dgf, is that how you spell "kinda" dukie? rbd >>
RBD There is no doubt in anyones mind that if DGF won that Madlock card for any amount up to $311 mistake or no mistake he would of paid . Anyone who has ever dealt with him or read his posts on these boards knows he is a stand up guy who is a true collector of high grade material whether its 1952 Topps or 1988 Topps. Unfortunately for you he has the respect factor of most of this board that you do not Whoever mentioned Crandell ? Yup bang on RBD if i were you i would go back to spending that Trust money and drop this one >>
Sure I'll drop it. I'm just defending myself here. And as long others continue to question my honesty, I'll post my @zze--off, defending it! The fact that Phil's "poo poo doesn't stink" here, doen't give him the right to trash talk me! (i.e., Too Dumb to be a biggot, "a jewish kid that can't spell at Porky's etc etc etc.). To putting me down for winning a $2.90 '77 Chambliss card, etc. The fact that he put together a #1 '77 set. But brags about sniping a $25 card, with a $311 bid, along with his uncalled-for trash-talk, doesn't not sould like a classy guy to me? I didn't ask for all this. My original post was not meant to harm or single out anyone. I honestly made an incorrect bid on that Bill Madlock card (100 times more than I wanted to bid!). It was not just a high bid to see what others were bidding, nor was it a high $311 snipe bid, like downgoesfraiser's (Phil's) bid was, it was just a type-o mistake period. And because zef took my original post here personally (which I did not mean to happen, as I thought I was becoming a good customer of his, and in no way was i trying to say anthing personal about him or his items!). The seller "backtracked" and dis-regarded our emailings to let this deal die. All of a sudden, weeks after, and the day I made the original post did the seller suddenly appear, he and suddenly changed his tune about that killed Bill Madlock transaction. He never once questioned me about the bid, all we agreed on was I would cover any excess fees he may incur, if he wanted me too. Thats it! All of a sudden, because I had 22 ebay retractions (WHICH HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH SEEING WHAT OTHER BIDDERS WERE BIDDING), I'm getting dumped on for these retractions, that I explained here what, about 25 times now, were just bidding errors! downgoesfraiser, may have "standing" here, but he has shown me zero respect. I'm on this thread because I believe in PSA and I'm "salting away" some PSA material. In addition I've been a PSA Set Registry builder, spend the past few years building a #1 1976 PSA set in PSA 10s and 9s, plus I'm a seller on eBay that sold well over 2,500 items in the past couple of years! I purchased over 3,000 cards, packs, boxes, collections on ebay. I have 5,400 positive feedbacks, with just one negative, a 99.9% rating. Over past few years, I've gained hundreds of loyal customers, and have dozens of sellers that have zero problems with me, my bidding or my purchases. So other than this Bill Madlock deal with a seller that mixed his selling with an emotional public outbust on this thread, making a private transaction, that was settled, a public matter. As far as downgoesfraiser is concerned, he was the so-caleed "newbie" that put in a snipe bid for $311, which triggered this whole mess to begin with. I made a bidding error that became a high bid because of another's need to pozess a $25 card, via a snipe bid of $311. If you think thats cool, then there is nothing more to say! rbd
Excellent original post. Might have to look into some OPC material. Maybe years 71, 72 and 75. Unfortunately, the topic of this conversation switched totally from underpriced OPC cards to a critique of your eBay practices.
<< <i>Anyone else have a luck cracking OPC wax ? >>
if you call 7 miscut cards and 1 nice card per pack then I will say yes. I have opened a lot and that is what you can expect. it is fun though so no regfrets and I will keep cracking to fill my boredom
RBD is a very, very, very ignorant man and is a newbie himself if he hasnt been around long enough to know that sometimes so-called "common" cards sell for huge dollars..
<< <i>RBD is a very, very, very ignorant man and is a newbie himself if he hasnt been around long enough to know that sometimes so-called "common" cards sell for huge dollars.. >>
p.a.,
The only reason that card was going to sell for big dollars, wan an inflated snipe bid of $311 and a type-o'd bid for $555. I know all about commons selling for big dollars, but it was not the case here. Ignorance has nothing to do with this. That takes more than one bidder wanting the item with a passion. I bid $5.55 and dgf, bid $311, nice try, this common card only had a huge price tag because of an error from one bidder and a passionate inflated bid from a 1977 collector. Thats it!
I' not going to continue to "exchange slaps" with you here in cyberspace, its getting ridiculious already. p.a., please don't tell me what I bid, I was there and you were not. I bid $ 5.55, but somehow omitted the decimal point, that's how $ 555 came out, so p.a., please, lets stop with this madness, already ok?
I think it was inappropriate of RBD to highlight some of his recent inexpensive OPC purchases--it is just not something that should be done, in my opinion. However, I am also prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt on the $555 bid. It seems inconceivable to me that a semi-star like Madlock would garner anywhere near that amount (and RBD would know this as well as anyone, as he regularly wins highgrade '70s OPC). If he was fishing to see the card's value then why such a huge bid? Why not simply $99 or $110 or $199 or $200 or.........any of these would have seemed plenty enough to be high bidder. I am prepared to accept his claim that he missed the decimal point.
Eyebone
"I'm not saying I'm the best manager in the world, but I'm in the top one." Brian Clough
I' not going to continue to "exchange slaps" with you here in cyberspace, its getting ridiculious already. p.a., please don't tell me what I bid, I was there and you were not. I bid $ 5.55, but somehow omitted the decimal point, that's how $ 555 came out, so p.a., please, lets stop with this madness, already ok?
rbd >>
ok i'll stop, but please quit telling us you bid $5.55.. regardless of whether i was "there" or not, the auctionis still there, and you bid $555.00..
and i'm also not beyond believing you made a mistake, but so far i think you've shown alot of ignorance in your bidding pattern and your statements..
I' not going to continue to "exchange slaps" with you here in cyberspace, its getting ridiculious already. p.a., please don't tell me what I bid, I was there and you were not. I bid $ 5.55, but somehow omitted the decimal point, that's how $ 555 came out, so p.a., please, lets stop with this madness, already ok?
rbd >>
ok i'll stop, but please quit telling us you bid $5.55.. regardless of whether i was "there" or not, the auctionis still there, and you bid $555.00..
and i'm also not beyond believing you made a mistake, but so far i think you've shown alot of ignorance in your bidding pattern and your statements.. >>
Thank you p.a., I guess being sucessful in life, health, money, and living here in South Florida, I'm, entitled to show a little ignorance somewhere, It might as well be bidding in cyberspace? Anyway, I bought a nice private lot of beautiful PSA 9s and a PSA 10 today, so my ingnorant bidding habits, woun't kick in until tonite!
<< <i>Thank you p.a., I guess being sucessful in life, health, money, and living here in South Florida, I'm, entitled to show a little ignorance somewhere, It might as well be bidding in cyberspace? >>
i guess as long as your ignorance isnt at the expense of others financially or mentally, thats fine.. florida is a nice place to live, I like it..
<< <i>Thank you p.a., I guess being sucessful in life, health, money, and living here in South Florida, I'm, entitled to show a little ignorance somewhere, It might as well be bidding in cyberspace? Anyway, I bought a nice private lot of beautiful PSA 9s and a PSA 10 today, so my ingnorant bidding habits, woun't kick in until tonite! >>
I don't anybody here really cares that you have been sucessful in life, have good health, lots of money and live in South Florida? Just remeber all of the above can change pretty fast!
What's even funnier is that you have enough time to read the entire thread. See you at the local hospital, I hear the kids love your voice. Hahahahaaa >>
Jayhawke - You ignorant pr*ck. I had non-hodgkins lymphoma for nearly 3 years and had several wonderful volunteers who read to me, played cards and even rented movies. Your comments suddenly don't seem as funny.
Greg M.
Collecting vintage auto'd fb cards and Dan Marino cards!!
"Jayhawke - You ignorant pr*ck. I had non-hodgkins lymphoma for nearly 3 years and had several wonderful volunteers who read to me, played cards and even rented movies. Your comments suddenly don't seem as funny."
Greg,
Play nice in the sand box. You think you are funny, by being a sarcastic dumb A-hole to everyone with you comments. Your personal health has nothing to do with your comments or mine. At least you are a survivor! My father died. Now, I don't think your comments are even remotely cute!!
<< <i>"Jayhawke - You ignorant pr*ck. I had non-hodgkins lymphoma for nearly 3 years and had several wonderful volunteers who read to me, played cards and even rented movies. Your comments suddenly don't seem as funny."
Greg,
Play nice in the sand box. You think you are funny, by being a sarcastic dumb A-hole to everyone with you comments. Your personal health has nothing to do with your comments or mine. At least you are a survivor! My father died. Now, I don't think your comments are even remotely cute!! >>
You may want to re-read the dictionary entry for the word "sarcastic". I was not being sarcastic - I was making a point that the thread was ridiculous and if people (especially rjb) had enough time to spend HOURS writing post after post, he should make good use of his time (such as volunteering at a hospital). Your comment was an misguided, ignorant pot shot at me that was completely unwarranted. Too bad about your father - maybe it was god's payment for having you as a son.
Greg M.
Collecting vintage auto'd fb cards and Dan Marino cards!!
<< <i>How much time has been spent on this ridiculous thread? My god, I hope everyone here has better things to do than argue over a friggin card. If you find yourself with enough time to spend countless hours fighing about a bid retraction, then go to the local hospital and volunteer to read to sick children. >>
regardless of what this thread topic was originally meant to be, it turned into a worthy discussion about the stupid bidding patterns of ignorant eBayers, in particular, rbdjr..
in my opinion, a thread about bid retractions and non-paying bidders is completely relevant to these message boards.
although I personally couldn't care less, you basically ridiculed everybody that has posted to this thread with the above quote..
but like i said, i dont care, and you're still an OK guy as far as im concerned..
this is what sucks about this board at times and how people can think this benefits the hobby is beyond me . this thread started off as a great thread about a segment of the hobby and has taken so many turns down the wrong path . It is now become a useless thread which nobody will gain any card collecting information from. you wonder why people leave these boards. I think the hobby is lucky that this board is less that 1% ers as Joe put it one time as this board does more to turn people off to collecting graded cards than it does to turning people on . signing off!
<< <i>How much time has been spent on this ridiculous thread? My god, I hope everyone here has better things to do than argue over a friggin card. If you find yourself with enough time to spend countless hours fighing about a bid retraction, then go to the local hospital and volunteer to read to sick children. >>
regardless of what this thread topic was originally meant to be, it turned into a worthy discussion about the stupid bidding patterns of ignorant eBayers, in particular, rbdjr..
in my opinion, a thread about bid retractions and non-paying bidders is completely relevant to these message boards.
although I personally couldn't care less, you basically ridiculed everybody that has posted to this thread with the above quote..
but like i said, i dont care, and you're still an OK guy as far as im concerned..
>>
The intent of my original post was misinterpreted (or maybe I didn't clarify enough). I wasn't trying to ridicule the people who have posted to this thread. My point was that I can't believe how people (directed at rbdjr) would waste hours posting long message after long message about what he did or didn't do. I was trying to make a point.
Greg M.
Collecting vintage auto'd fb cards and Dan Marino cards!!
<< <i>Too bad about your father - maybe it was god's payment for having you as a son.
>>
I'm sure that was just emotion getting the best of you...I hope.
pack-collector, Do you think I am ever going to find a gem mint 85 Topps UD Vince Coleman? You're a magician at pulling nice cards from your boxes...any help with that one? I'll pay "Madlock Money" for that bad boy! I recieved a 10 on my 86 Topps RC, but the 85 UD would be the BOMB! Also looking for... 85-87 Fleer 86-87 Donruss Vince Colemans.
Sorry to hijack the thread and get back to paying stupid money for cards that I can't live without
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<< <i>I remember when I had too much time on my hands and "all I wanted to do".....
<< <i>I remember when I had too much time on my hands and "all I wanted to do".....
guess I just want vintage material now! Strangers On My Flight?
rbd
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Some things just get out of hand don't u think, heh?
ALL U HAD TO SAY IS I'M SORRY!
rbd
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<< <i>One thing leads to another,
Some things just get out of hand don't u think, heh?
ALL U HAD TO SAY IS I'M SORRY!
rbd >>
rbd
I assume "you" are included in the U?
mike
<< <i>I assume "you" are included in the U?
mike >>
Of course!
rbd
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<< <i>(Dogiehauser!) >>
...OUCH! I keep my posts clean and try to be the voice of reason, make nice with you and you toss THAT out there...and you didn't even spell it correctly! It reminds me of the Jewish kid in "Porky's"..."You're even too dumb to be a good biggot."
The point is, I tried to explain my viewpoint since I was mentioned in the thread--I felt it was relevant to the rant. Why'dya have to go and get personal Ronald? You should try a sniping service and bid the moon on some class.
You certainly lost credit with me on this one, but truth be told, I never believed you anyway...not too sure anybody else could possibly, either.
dgf
<< <i>This thread could have ended after a few posts. rbd is a liar. It's that simple. NOBODY, unless they have actual mental defiencies, would have to retract 23 bids. That's simple someone trying to see what others are bidding. All the other stuff, should Zef have brought it back up, etc... is irrelevant. In my opinion once you have about 2 or 3 bid retractions they should kick you off Ebay and make you start over. Total BS. In my opinion this guy is just a total scum bag! "I bid fast and furious." Whatever. You are a cheat. >>
Just who in the H E L L do you think you are Larry? You don't know me, yet you come out on a public forum call me a scum bag, liar and a cheat?
It is not uncommon for me to bid on 200 to 400 items per week. And no, my bid retractions for the most part are just plain keyboard type-o's, and to a lesser degree, not reading a description correctly (i.e., bidding on a card and then noticing it was a qualifier, or bidding on a PSA 10, only to find out that it was actually a PSA 9, and card # 10, are a few common examples.). If I need to retract a bid because of not reading a description correctly, and the seller did not revise his description, per ebay rules, I would first eMail and ask the seller permission to retract my bid. I little problems with sellers on that subject.
So let me get this straight, you are saying my bid retractions are to see what someone else is bidding? So if I was bidding 9.99 and I hit 99.9, by accident, I want to see what someone else is bidding? Thats silly? I would just retract and correct. Only if there are multiple bidders, would I even take notice as to other people's bids. What would you like me to do Larry? Not look at any other bidders' bids when I type in my corrected bid? That's not cheating! ebay needs to have bid retractions, not as you say to see other bids and to cheat, but as a corrective device.
My retracted bids are way less than 1% of my total bids, and yes I wll try to clean-up my mistakes and read descriptions closer, but larryallen, senior member, I'm no cheat, far from it!
I thought I was finished with this topic, but I see I have to deal with the likes of you and I am forced to lower myself , "TO LARRY'S VERY LOW LEVEL" and defend myself here!
Larry, I don't know you (and I see I don't EVER want to! For if you called me a cheat, scumbag and liar to my face, "a world of hurt could come down", and we don't that cr@ p do we!) Anyone that believes someone should be booted off ebay with 2 or 3 bid retractions, is just "spewing c r@ p" here, and doesn't not really know what their talking about.
I simply make a lot of bids, easily 10,000 to 15,000 bids per year! I may bid on every single item a seller has listed in a certain category, go right down the line, one card after another, bid on them all, and yes Larry, if i made a mistake, I'd just correct it! But it has never been a problem, just correct it and submit it again! period! But not to as you say Larry, to cheat! That's nuts! I didn't even know I had bid 22 retractions. I will try to be careful from now on, when I place bids, but I NEVER cheated!
I do bid differently than most. Not better, just different! I'm sorry to dissapoint you Larry, if thats your real name but I'm not a cheat, and again, you don't know me, so please don't call me a scum bag, cheat on a public forum, ok?
I never thought my bid retractions would bother anyone, as they happen "one at a time".
I NEVER had a bid retraction that had anything to do with cheating, period!
rbd
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<< <i>
<< <i>(Dogiehauser!) >>
...OUCH! I keep my posts clean and try to be the voice of reason, make nice with you and you toss THAT out there...and you didn't even spell it correctly! It reminds me of the Jewish kid in "Porky's"..."You're even too dumb to be a good biggot."
The point is, I tried to explain my viewpoint since I was mentioned in the thread--I felt it was relevant to the rant. Why'dya have to go and get personal Ronald? You should try a sniping service and bid the moon on some class.
You certainly lost credit with me on this one, but truth be told, I never believed you anyway...not too sure anybody else could possibly, either.
dgf >>
downgoesfrazier,
LOL! Didn't think you were a "follow the herd guy"? I've been wrong before! (yea, 'spell check' is cool, thanks dukie!) I can only imagine if my incorrect bid was, lets say, $290 (instead of $ 2.90), I'm sure your new collecting pal would be delighted to sell you that "well-centered" Bill Madlock card for a snipe price of $ 295.00 (such a deal!). What am I saying? If you had to pay $ 295 for that bill madlock card, I guess you wouldn't call zef your new collecting pal now would you? Yes dgf, I'll take that "as you described it, a "marginal PSA 9 Chambliss card" for my $ 2.90 winning bid, and you can have the Bill Madlock card at $ 311 (Which was your high "to the moon", as you called it, snipe bid, for a card worth easily ten times less!). Yea right, see you at Porky's dude! Oh yeah! The truth be told, I never believed for one minute, you wanted to pay $ 311 for a 1977 Bill Madlock! Yea man dgf, my opinion of you is now kinda low! (dgf, is that how you spell "kinda" dukie? rbd
P.S. What an outstanding PSA Registry '77 you amassed (dgf, did I spell ammased correctly?), congrats for spending years cracking packs & boxes, looking thru loops at raw material, trading, buying, bidding, shows, etc. I know once you got passed with the easy ones, just hard it is to find those others. Too bad you had to be the one, who was the underbidder of the madlock card. I do care that folks like you don't believe my $555 bid was a mistake. It was! I know you broke no rules with your sniped $311 bid, but of all auctions to do that, the very one I screwed-up on? Well maybe it was karma, that you got the card? Based on the unbelievable cards I saw in your retired set, you deserve the card more than I. With the exception of a few years of set building (1977 not being one of them!), I'm just a "type collector" of certain high end material, and I thought the Bill Madlock was a good buy to "salt away", plus I liked buying from zef, as he offered me great service (i.e., packaging and super-fast shipping!) the few times I dealt with him. I trya loyal buyer! In any event, I was "let off the hook" by zef, and you got the card you wanted.
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23 bid retractions is way too excessive in my opinion. One time in my life on the bay did I enter a wrong amount and it was my 3rd transaction. I entered $200.00 instead of $20.00 and ended up winning the auction for $93.00. I sure did not plan on paying almost $100 with shipping for a 1966 topps #365 Roger Maris, but I had to. It was my mistake and I had to be accountable. I wanted to blame my fat fingers, my fast and furious bidding and the L.A.P.D. for my error, but Mom and Dad always said to step up and be a Man. I payed my bill, received my 1st positive feedback, submitted that card to GAI (hey, I was new) and received a 7.5.
My point in all this is people use the bid retraction to see what other people bid and to find out what the amount of the reserve is in reserve auctions. 23 retractions in 6 months is once a week??? People like this are taking advantage of a loophole in the system. Ebay needs to close this gap and start treating people that do this in the same class as scammers and auction interferers. They need to be kicked off.
This guy should be so ASHAMED and EMBARRASSED, I can't believe he is still here defending his actions. I would run and hide and not come back till I had a new ID. The minimum is he should be banned from these forums and blocked from bidding on everyone's auctions. He is not worth the hassle of having him as a high bidder. He makes Ebay just a little bit darker and less fun. I feel a little dirty with him around.
I think you're all fu@ked in the head. We're ten hours from the fu@king fun park and you want to bail out. Well I'll tell you something. This is no longer a vacation. It's a quest. It's a quest for fun. I'm gonna have fun and you're gonna have fun. We're all gonna have so much fu@king fun we'll need plastic surgeory to remove our godamn smiles. You'll be whistling 'Zip-A-Dee Doo-Dah' out of you're a**holes! I gotta be crazy! I'm on a pilgrimage to see a moose. Praise Marty Moose! Holy Sh*t!
REMEMBER FOLKS, IT'S JUST A CARD IN A PIECE OF PLASTIC, THINK BACK ON ALL THOSE BEANIE BABIES YOU BOUGHT AND HOW YOUR WIFE LAUGHS AT YOU NOW FOR THAT INVESTMENT!!! YOU FOOL!!!
<< <i>I just had to agree 100% with what 97% of the board members had to say. This guy ruins the auctions by bidding far above the value to make sure he gets his item at any cost. When he runs into another bidder doing the same thing, his wonderful plan of attack falls apart. Besides entering his amount and hitting enter, he had to comfirm his bid with another button press, see that he was the high bidder and find his $555.00 bid in My Ebay. All of this while receiving an E-mail confimation confiming his bid.
23 bid retractions is way too excessive in my opinion. One time in my life on the bay did I enter a wrong amount and it was my 3rd transaction. I entered $200.00 instead of $20.00 and ended up winning the auction for $93.00. I sure did not plan on paying almost $100 with shipping for a 1966 topps #365 Roger Maris, but I had to. It was my mistake and I had to be accountable. I wanted to blame my fat fingers, my fast and furious bidding and the L.A.P.D. for my error, but Mom and Dad always said to step up and be a Man. I payed my bill, received my 1st positive feedback, submitted that card to GAI (hey, I was new) and received a 7.5.
My point in all this is people use the bid retraction to see what other people bid and to find out what the amount of the reserve is in reserve auctions. 23 retractions in 6 months is once a week??? People like this are taking advantage of a loophole in the system. Ebay needs to close this gap and start treating people that do this in the same class as scammers and auction interferers. They need to be kicked off.
This guy should be so ASHAMED and EMBARRASSED, I can't believe he is still here defending his actions. I would run and hide and not come back till I had a new ID. The minimum is he should be banned from these forums and blocked from bidding on everyone's auctions. He is not worth the hassle of having him as a high bidder. He makes Ebay just a little bit darker and less fun. I feel a little dirty with him around.
I think you're all fu@ked in the head. We're ten hours from the fu@king fun park and you want to bail out. Well I'll tell you something. This is no longer a vacation. It's a quest. It's a quest for fun. I'm gonna have fun and you're gonna have fun. We're all gonna have so much fu@king fun we'll need plastic surgeory to remove our godamn smiles. You'll be whistling 'Zip-A-Dee Doo-Dah' out of you're a**holes! I gotta be crazy! I'm on a pilgrimage to see a moose. Praise Marty Moose! Holy Sh*t!
REMEMBER FOLKS, IT'S JUST A CARD IN A PIECE OF PLASTIC, THINK BACK ON ALL THOSE BEANIE BABIES YOU BOUGHT AND HOW YOUR WIFE LAUGHS AT YOU NOW FOR THAT INVESTMENT!!! YOU FOOL!!! >>
Robeson, you simply got it wrong, like many others here!
That bid WAS a mistake, a type-o, an error period! I did not think about other bids, I simply just left a decimil out, period. An underbidder who happened to have a snipe bid for $ 311 for this card that is worth in my opionion no more than $25.00 to $35.00 on its best day, triggered the problem. This underbidder, tried to defend his $ 311.00 high as price he was willing to pay for a 1977 Bill Madlock card. I'm not sure just why he would put a bid in that high? But he did, and if that was how much he was willing to pay, so be it!
For the 100th time, I did not put a $555 bid in to see what others were bidding, for God's sake, for most of the 1977s I bid on that day I was the only bidder, or at the most just 2 bidders, as was the case with this card! I was just a mistake! There was no need for me to know what others were bidding, it just wasn't the case!
I didn't even notice my error until the auction was over! That's what happened. I did not want to pay $ 316.00 for that card, and I eMailed the seller about my mistake, he did not force me to honor a "binding contract".
And, yes you got it wrong about my bid retractions, I was not interested in others' bids, just bidding errors on my part. Thats it! If you do not believe it, I can't help that! But its the truth!
rbd
edit: If I wanted to retract my bids to see what others have bid, I would have 100s of retractions. But i didn't do that! Why can't you guys get thru your very thick heads, these retractions were just errors!
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Roberson,
Congrats! For honoring you high bid in the example above. Nothing wrong with that! But you did have another honorable option, if you so desired. You could have simply eMailed the seller, explaining your bidding error, and ask him to "let you off the hook". If the seller said no, then you may honor your high bid and pay for the item. But if the seller agreed with you, and said "ok", then you would not have to overpay for the item. In my case, I chose to email the seller for relief, and he did agree.
Roberson, if you bid on my auctions, and emailed me explaining your error, and I saw that indeed you were overpaying for an item, I as a seller, would let you off the hook. Others here say no, they would make you pay. That's the seller's choice. But there is nothing dishonorable in asking a seller to "kill a deal", if an error occurred. I think the few that said, they would make a buyer pay, because it is a "binding contract" would reconsider, if a buyer asked them to, because of a bidding error.
Anyway, if one wants to just go ahead and pay 10 to 100 times more for an item because of an incorrect bed, without first asking the seller if he would let you off, thats your choice. There is no dishonor in asking first!
rbd
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I thought I was only person who liked Porky's!! I haven't heard a Porky's quote in 10-15 years. Very nice.
<< <i>
<< <i>(Dogiehauser!) >>
...OUCH! I keep my posts clean and try to be the voice of reason, make nice with you and you toss THAT out there...and you didn't even spell it correctly! It reminds me of the Jewish kid in "Porky's"..."You're even too dumb to be a good biggot."
The point is, I tried to explain my viewpoint since I was mentioned in the thread--I felt it was relevant to the rant. Why'dya have to go and get personal Ronald? You should try a sniping service and bid the moon on some class.
You certainly lost credit with me on this one, but truth be told, I never believed you anyway...not too sure anybody else could possibly, either.
dgf >>
downgoesfrazier,
Question: You've been a member of this thread since 2002, but your a "newbie" to ebay with a feedback of 37, and it states you've been a member for only six months? Your new eBay ID: phil_apostle (as one has to assume it is a new user ID). You care to explain that? downgoesfrazier, please do use "your voice of reason" for your answer!
P.S. dgf, no thanks! I do not want a snipe service, so I can "bid to the moon" like you and your $311.00 high snipe bid of a Bill Madlock card that I'm quite sure was worth about 25 dollars on a good day. Nope, I'll leave that trickery to the likes of you!
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<< <i>I do not want a snipe service, so I can "bid to the moon" like you and your $311.00 high snipe bid of a Bill Madlock card that I'm quite sure was worth about 25 dollars on a good day. Nope, I'll leave that trickery to the likes of you! >>
Was the 311.00 high enough to win this Madlock card? Maybe he typed in the wrong amount? I try to give guys like Phil the benefit of the doubt. He probably uses a snipe service so people won't run him up when he bids the minute the card hits ebay? There are alot of jerks out there and if they see a guy like you or Phil bidding and know you need the card for your set they might just bid you up knowing you have to have the card?
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<< <i>Question: You've been a member of this thread since 2002, but your a "newbie" to ebay with a feedback of 37, and it states you've been a member for only six months? Your new eBay ID: phil_apostle (as one has to assume it is a new user ID). You care to explain that? downgoesfrazier, please do use "your voice of reason" for your answer!
>>
Bob, Phil has been on ebay for a long time and has several id's like most of us , like you he collects 70;s , you have the #1 76 set , Phil had the #1 77 set until he took it out of the registry. He still has the best set , just not registered and has the greatest collection of 77 topps imaginable so you are wrong on this one. Like you fire all in on certain 76 cards , phil does the same on 77 and is as passionate as anyone so I don;t think he has any explaining to do and I think you owe him an apology
<< <i>downgoesfrazier,
LOL! Didn't think you were a "follow the herd guy"? I've been wrong before! (yea, 'spell check' is cool, thanks dukie!) I can only imagine if my incorrect bid was, lets say, $290 (instead of $ 2.90), I'm sure your new collecting pal would be delighted to sell you that "well-centered" Bill Madlock card for a snipe price of $ 295.00 (such a deal!). What am I saying? If you had to pay $ 295 for that bill madlock card, I guess you wouldn't call zef your new collecting pal now would you? Yes dgf, I'll take that "as you described it, a "marginal PSA 9 Chambliss card" for my $ 2.90 winning bid, and you can have the Bill Madlock card at $ 311 (Which was your high "to the moon", as you called it, snipe bid, for a card worth easily ten times less!). Yea right, see you at Porky's dude! Oh yeah! The truth be told, I never believed for one minute, you wanted to pay $ 311 for a 1977 Bill Madlock! Yea man dgf, my opinion of you is now kinda low! (dgf, is that how you spell "kinda" dukie? rbd >>
RBD
There is no doubt in anyones mind that if DGF won that Madlock card for any amount up to $311 mistake or no mistake he would of paid . Anyone who has ever dealt with him or read his posts on these boards knows he is a stand up guy who is a true collector of high grade material whether its 1952 Topps or 1988 Topps. Unfortunately for you he has the respect factor of most of this board that you do not
Whoever mentioned Crandell ? Yup bang on
RBD if i were you i would go back to spending that Trust money and drop this one
<< <i>
<< <i>Question: You've been a member of this thread since 2002, but your a "newbie" to ebay with a feedback of 37, and it states you've been a member for only six months? Your new eBay ID: phil_apostle (as one has to assume it is a new user ID). You care to explain that? downgoesfrazier, please do use "your voice of reason" for your answer!
>>
Bob, Phil has been on ebay for a long time and has several id's like most of us , like you he collects 70;s , you have the #1 76 set , Phil had the #1 77 set until he took it out of the registry. He still has the best set , just not registered and has the greatest collection of 77 topps imaginable so you are wrong on this one. Like you fire all in on certain 76 cards , phil does the same on 77 and is as passionate as anyone so I don;t think he has any explaining to do and I think you owe him an apology >>
Thats cool, then I apologize!
rbd
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<< <i>downgoesfrazier, LOL! Didn't think you were a "follow the herd guy"? I've been wrong before! (yea, 'spell check' is cool, thanks dukie!) I can only imagine if my incorrect bid was, lets say, $290 (instead of $ 2.90), I'm sure your new collecting pal would be delighted to sell you that "well-centered" Bill Madlock card for a snipe price of $ 295.00 (such a deal!). What am I saying? If you had to pay $ 295 for that bill madlock card, I guess you wouldn't call zef your new collecting pal now would you? Yes dgf, I'll take that "as you described it, a "marginal PSA 9 Chambliss card" for my $ 2.90 winning bid, and you can have the Bill Madlock card at $ 311 (Which was your high "to the moon", as you called it, snipe bid, for a card worth easily ten times less!). Yea right, see you at Porky's dude! Oh yeah! The truth be told, I never believed for one minute, you wanted to pay $ 311 for a 1977 Bill Madlock! Yea man dgf, my opinion of you is now kinda low! (dgf, is that how you spell "kinda" dukie? rbd >>
RBD There is no doubt in anyones mind that if DGF won that Madlock card for any amount up to $311 mistake or no mistake he would of paid . Anyone who has ever dealt with him or read his posts on these boards knows he is a stand up guy who is a true collector of high grade material whether its 1952 Topps or 1988 Topps. Unfortunately for you he has the respect factor of most of this board that you do not Whoever mentioned Crandell ? Yup bang on RBD if i were you i would go back to spending that Trust money and drop this one >>
Sure I'll drop it. I'm just defending myself here. And as long others continue to question my honesty, I'll post my @zze--off, defending it! The fact that Phil's "poo poo doesn't stink" here, doen't give him the right to trash talk me! (i.e., Too Dumb to be a biggot, "a jewish kid that can't spell at Porky's etc etc etc.). To putting me down for winning a $2.90 '77 Chambliss card, etc. The fact that he put together a #1 '77 set. But brags about sniping a $25 card, with a $311 bid, along with his uncalled-for trash-talk, doesn't not sould like a classy guy to me? I didn't ask for all this. My original post was not meant to harm or single out anyone. I honestly made an incorrect bid on that Bill Madlock card (100 times more than I wanted to bid!). It was not just a high bid to see what others were bidding, nor was it a high $311 snipe bid, like downgoesfraiser's (Phil's) bid was, it was just a type-o mistake period. And because zef took my original post here personally (which I did not mean to happen, as I thought I was becoming a good customer of his, and in no way was i trying to say anthing personal about him or his items!). The seller "backtracked" and dis-regarded our emailings to let this deal die. All of a sudden, weeks after, and the day I made the original post did the seller suddenly appear, he and suddenly changed his tune about that killed Bill Madlock transaction. He never once questioned me about the bid, all we agreed on was I would cover any excess fees he may incur, if he wanted me too. Thats it! All of a sudden, because I had 22 ebay retractions (WHICH HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH SEEING WHAT OTHER BIDDERS WERE BIDDING), I'm getting dumped on for these retractions, that I explained here what, about 25 times now, were just bidding errors! downgoesfraiser, may have "standing" here, but he has shown me zero respect. I'm on this thread because I believe in PSA and I'm "salting away" some PSA material. In addition I've been a PSA Set Registry builder, spend the past few years building a #1 1976 PSA set in PSA 10s and 9s, plus I'm a seller on eBay that sold well over 2,500 items in the past couple of years! I purchased over 3,000 cards, packs, boxes, collections on ebay. I have 5,400 positive feedbacks, with just one negative, a 99.9% rating. Over past few years, I've gained hundreds of loyal customers, and have dozens of sellers that have zero problems with me, my bidding or my purchases. So other than this Bill Madlock deal with a seller that mixed his selling with an emotional public outbust on this thread, making a private transaction, that was settled, a public matter. As far as downgoesfraiser is concerned, he was the so-caleed "newbie" that put in a snipe bid for $311, which triggered this whole mess to begin with. I made a bidding error that became a high bid because of another's need to pozess a $25 card, via a snipe bid of $311. If you think thats cool, then there is nothing more to say! rbd
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Your kidding right?
SD
Excellent original post. Might have to look into some OPC material. Maybe years 71, 72 and 75.
Unfortunately, the topic of this conversation switched totally from underpriced OPC cards to a critique of your eBay practices.
Anyone else have a luck cracking OPC wax ?
They call me "Pack the Ripper"
<< <i>Anyone else have a luck cracking OPC wax ? >>
if you call 7 miscut cards and 1 nice card per pack then I will say yes. I have opened a lot and that is what you can expect. it is fun though so no regfrets and I will keep cracking to fill my boredom
RBD is a very, very, very ignorant man and is a newbie himself if he hasnt been around long enough to know that sometimes so-called "common" cards sell for huge dollars..
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<< <i>which is worth, maybe $25 tops to most, >>
ignorance..
<< <i>RBD is a very, very, very ignorant man and is a newbie himself if he hasnt been around long enough to know that sometimes so-called "common" cards sell for huge dollars.. >>
p.a.,
The only reason that card was going to sell for big dollars, wan an inflated snipe bid of $311 and a type-o'd bid for $555. I know all about commons selling for big dollars, but it was not the case here. Ignorance has nothing to do with this. That takes more than one bidder wanting the item with a passion. I bid $5.55 and dgf, bid $311, nice try, this common card only had a huge price tag because of an error from one bidder and a passionate inflated bid from a 1977 collector. Thats it!
bye
rbd
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<< <i>I bid $5.55 and dgf, bid $311, nice try, >>
incorrect.
you did not bid $5.55, you bid $555.00.
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<< <i>I bid $5.55 and dgf, bid $311, nice try, >>
incorrect.
you did not bid $5.55, you bid $555.00. >>
p.a.
I' not going to continue to "exchange slaps" with you here in cyberspace, its getting ridiculious already. p.a., please don't tell me what I bid, I was there and you were not. I bid $ 5.55, but somehow omitted the decimal point, that's how $ 555 came out, so p.a., please, lets stop with this madness, already ok?
rbd
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p.a.
I' not going to continue to "exchange slaps" with you here in cyberspace, its getting ridiculious already. p.a., please don't tell me what I bid, I was there and you were not. I bid $ 5.55, but somehow omitted the decimal point, that's how $ 555 came out, so p.a., please, lets stop with this madness, already ok?
rbd >>
ok i'll stop, but please quit telling us you bid $5.55.. regardless of whether i was "there" or not, the auction is still there, and you bid $555.00..
and i'm also not beyond believing you made a mistake, but so far i think you've shown alot of ignorance in your bidding pattern and your statements..
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p.a.
I' not going to continue to "exchange slaps" with you here in cyberspace, its getting ridiculious already. p.a., please don't tell me what I bid, I was there and you were not. I bid $ 5.55, but somehow omitted the decimal point, that's how $ 555 came out, so p.a., please, lets stop with this madness, already ok?
rbd >>
ok i'll stop, but please quit telling us you bid $5.55.. regardless of whether i was "there" or not, the auction is still there, and you bid $555.00..
and i'm also not beyond believing you made a mistake, but so far i think you've shown alot of ignorance in your bidding pattern and your statements.. >>
Thank you p.a., I guess being sucessful in life, health, money, and living here in South Florida, I'm, entitled to show a little ignorance somewhere, It might as well be bidding in cyberspace? Anyway, I bought a nice private lot of beautiful PSA 9s and a PSA 10 today, so my ingnorant bidding habits, woun't kick in until tonite!
rbd
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<< <i>Thank you p.a., I guess being sucessful in life, health, money, and living here in South Florida, I'm, entitled to show a little ignorance somewhere, It might as well be bidding in cyberspace? >>
i guess as long as your ignorance isnt at the expense of others financially or mentally, thats fine.. florida is a nice place to live, I like it..
<< <i>Thank you p.a., I guess being sucessful in life, health, money, and living here in South Florida, I'm, entitled to show a little ignorance somewhere, It might as well be bidding in cyberspace? Anyway, I bought a nice private lot of beautiful PSA 9s and a PSA 10 today, so my ingnorant bidding habits, woun't kick in until tonite! >>
I don't anybody here really cares that you have been sucessful in life, have good health, lots of money and live in South Florida? Just remeber all of the above can change pretty fast!
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<< <i>gregm13,
What's even funnier is that you have enough time to read the entire thread. See you at the local hospital, I hear the kids love your voice. Hahahahaaa >>
Jayhawke - You ignorant pr*ck. I had non-hodgkins lymphoma for nearly 3 years and had several wonderful volunteers who read to me, played cards and even rented movies. Your comments suddenly don't seem as funny.
Greg M.
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Greg,
Play nice in the sand box. You think you are funny, by being a sarcastic dumb A-hole to everyone with you comments. Your personal health has nothing to do with your comments or mine. At least you are a survivor! My father died. Now, I don't think your comments are even remotely cute!!
<< <i>"Jayhawke - You ignorant pr*ck. I had non-hodgkins lymphoma for nearly 3 years and had several wonderful volunteers who read to me, played cards and even rented movies. Your comments suddenly don't seem as funny."
Greg,
Play nice in the sand box. You think you are funny, by being a sarcastic dumb A-hole to everyone with you comments. Your personal health has nothing to do with your comments or mine. At least you are a survivor! My father died. Now, I don't think your comments are even remotely cute!! >>
You may want to re-read the dictionary entry for the word "sarcastic". I was not being sarcastic - I was making a point that the thread was ridiculous and if people (especially rjb) had enough time to spend HOURS writing post after post, he should make good use of his time (such as volunteering at a hospital). Your comment was an misguided, ignorant pot shot at me that was completely unwarranted. Too bad about your father - maybe it was god's payment for having you as a son.
Greg M.
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<< <i>How much time has been spent on this ridiculous thread? My god, I hope everyone here has better things to do than argue over a friggin card. If you find yourself with enough time to spend countless hours fighing about a bid retraction, then go to the local hospital and volunteer to read to sick children. >>
regardless of what this thread topic was originally meant to be, it turned into a worthy discussion about the stupid bidding patterns of ignorant eBayers, in particular, rbdjr..
in my opinion, a thread about bid retractions and non-paying bidders is completely relevant to these message boards.
although I personally couldn't care less, you basically ridiculed everybody that has posted to this thread with the above quote..
but like i said, i dont care, and you're still an OK guy as far as im concerned..
<< <i>Too bad about your father - maybe it was god's payment for having you as a son. >>
I would recommend that gregm13's forum membership be suspended for that comment.
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<< <i>How much time has been spent on this ridiculous thread? My god, I hope everyone here has better things to do than argue over a friggin card. If you find yourself with enough time to spend countless hours fighing about a bid retraction, then go to the local hospital and volunteer to read to sick children. >>
regardless of what this thread topic was originally meant to be, it turned into a worthy discussion about the stupid bidding patterns of ignorant eBayers, in particular, rbdjr..
in my opinion, a thread about bid retractions and non-paying bidders is completely relevant to these message boards.
although I personally couldn't care less, you basically ridiculed everybody that has posted to this thread with the above quote..
but like i said, i dont care, and you're still an OK guy as far as im concerned..
The intent of my original post was misinterpreted (or maybe I didn't clarify enough). I wasn't trying to ridicule the people who have posted to this thread. My point was that I can't believe how people (directed at rbdjr) would waste hours posting long message after long message about what he did or didn't do. I was trying to make a point.
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<< <i>Too bad about your father - maybe it was god's payment for having you as a son.
>>
I'm sure that was just emotion getting the best of you...I hope.
pack-collector,
Do you think I am ever going to find a gem mint 85 Topps UD Vince Coleman? You're a magician at pulling nice cards from your boxes...any help with that one? I'll pay "Madlock Money" for that bad boy! I recieved a 10 on my 86 Topps RC, but the 85 UD would be the BOMB!
Also looking for...
85-87 Fleer
86-87 Donruss
Vince Colemans.
Sorry to hijack the thread and get back to paying stupid money for cards that I can't live without
dgf
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<< <i>Too bad about your father - maybe it was god's payment for having you as a son. >>
I would recommend that gregm13's forum membership be suspended for that comment. >>
That is so totally out of line it isn't even funny. Greg, you owe someone an apology.
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<< <i>Too bad about your father - maybe it was god's payment for having you as a son. >>
I would recommend that gregm13's forum membership be suspended for that comment. >>
That is so totally out of line it isn't even funny. Greg, you owe someone an apology. >>
Before you call me out on the carpet, why don't you re-read jayhawk's prior posts. I didn't start this...
Greg M.
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