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How much would a fingerprint change the price??

SmittysSmittys Posts: 9,876 ✭✭✭✭✭
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I just looked at a 1947 Mint set in orginal envolpe and cards,
However the one half keeps dropping out and the owner has
picked it up to replace it in the past leave a light fingerprint.
Also one 1947-S quarter was missing. They went home to look for it.
Hopefully the will be bringing it back and selling the set.
How much does the fingerprint effect the price.
The toning is ok but nothing special.
Just looking for opinions.
Thanks
https://www.ebay.com/str/christyscoins

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  • pharmerpharmer Posts: 8,355 ✭
    Do the coins look similarly toned? Since the dimes are close together, a similarity in toning can give some hint as to whether it's an original set versus one in which coins have been switched out, which I would wonder about if they are falling out easily. Not always, but I look for that. Fingerprints turn me off.
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."

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  • StunnerStunner Posts: 128

    Unless a quick dip can remove the fingerprint - I wouldnt be interested
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A fingerprint on the half dollar is a big deal because usually the half dollars represent a substantial part of the value of the set. Dipping it off does not work because originality is a MAJOR part of the value of a mint set. So far as I'm concerned, dipped coin in a mint set = substitured coin(s) in a mint set. It's NOT a good thing. image

    As for the "missing coin," watch out. They may have taken a gem coin out of the set and had it certified for sale at big buck$. If the the "found" coin does not match up with the rest of the silver in the set, PASS, unless the price has been reduced to reflect that.

    Gray Sheet bid/ask is $ 1,025 / $ 1,125. Don't expect to buy a really nice set for that, really nice sets are worth more, sometimes A LOT more; but it is a baseline number you can use.
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570 ✭

    stman scored this puppy for $10 delivered


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  • SmittysSmittys Posts: 9,876 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's all orginal, they inherited it, they thought it was three sets.
    In the orginal mint shipping enevople but ripped.
    They just didn't know how to handle it. They had other
    coins but this was the big item.
    They haven't brought it back yetimage
    https://www.ebay.com/str/christyscoins
  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Relayer, somehow I still think you must have shanked me on the shipping for that superb set you sold me.
    I know you had a steak dinner out of the deal. I was kinda disappointed though.... it's not a "Matched" set.
    Please... Save The Stories, Just Answer My Questions, And Tell Me How Much!!!!!
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>stman scored this puppy for $10 delivered


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    "Scored" is a relative term. If I got a 1965 SMS set with a half dollar that looked like that, I'd say that for $10 I'd been scored upon. image Sorry, but the half dollar is THE COIN in these sets, and if it looks like that, the set is crap IMO.
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>stman scored this puppy for $10 delivered


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    "Scored" is a relative term. If I got a 1965 SMS set with a half dollar that looked like that, I'd say that for $10 I'd been scored upon. image Sorry, but the half dollar is THE COIN in these sets, and if it looks like that, the set is crap IMO. >>



    image You're too serious sometimes. I knew exactly what I was buying and asked Relayer to sell it to me.
    Please... Save The Stories, Just Answer My Questions, And Tell Me How Much!!!!!
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>stman scored this puppy for $10 delivered


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    "Scored" is a relative term. If I got a 1965 SMS set with a half dollar that looked like that, I'd say that for $10 I'd been scored upon. image Sorry, but the half dollar is THE COIN in these sets, and if it looks like that, the set is crap IMO. >>



    image You're too serious sometimes. I knew exactly what I was buying and asked Relayer to sell it to me. >>



    Well, whatever floats your boat. If you like the evidence from a 40 year old, mint caused fingerprint, be my guest. It's not my thing ...

    ENJOY!
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    YUP, that's all I could afford from "Making a living in California."
    Please... Save The Stories, Just Answer My Questions, And Tell Me How Much!!!!!
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>YUP, that's all I could afford from "Making a living in California." >>



    Hey lighten up!

    I'm on YOUR side when comes to what the Californai legislature is doing to the coin business to make the slimy pawn brokers happy.

    I'm just glad that I don't live there.
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570 ✭


    Well, I did wave my normal excessive S/H fee for stman image

    But just this one time image
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  • PrethenPrethen Posts: 3,454 ✭✭✭
    Typically, the more obvious the print, the bigger the hit on the price. There are rare cases where an obvious finger-print actually because an attractive center-point of a coin, but very rarely so. Partial finger prints on early proofs are extremely common and as long as they don't stick out like a sore thumb (excuse the pun) they don't really hurt the value. In fact, they're pretty much expected especially if they're subtle.
  • LincolnfreakLincolnfreak Posts: 71



    I don't like fingerprints and would consider it a big deal.
  • PrethenPrethen Posts: 3,454 ✭✭✭
    Here's an early proof that has gorgeous even gold toning but has a partial fingerprint on the reverse. Yes, I'd prefer the print wasn't there, but the toning is so nice that the coin is a keeper. The shadowing on the top obverse is just that, a shadow, nothing more. It's in an NGC PF65 holder. I'm guessing there's not much else holding it back from a higher grade but the print.
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