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No offense, but does anyone else find this distrubing..
MadMarty
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That Cameron (congrats on the job), has a link to ICG in his siggy line? I'm sorry, advertising for another grading company on CUs forum is just wrong! That would be like me going to Xerox's forum and advertising that I work at Canon. Very poor taste Mr. Kiefer.
It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!
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Cameron Kiefer
What is distRUbing?
Jim
<< <i>What? You don't advertise for NGC with the almost daily posts about the grades you got at NGC? Come on Marty.
Cameron Kiefer >>
I don't have a link in my siggy, and I DON'T work for NGC.
<< <i>What? You don't advertise for NGC with the almost daily posts about the grades you got at NGC? Come on Marty.
Cameron Kiefer >>
Marty doesn't work for NGC. That's the difference. IMHO.
Cameron Kiefer
<< <i>What? You don't advertise for NGC with the almost daily posts about the grades you got at NGC? Come on Marty. >>
I think he's got you on this one. Give Cameron his due, he's earned the opportunity and I doubt if it hurts PCGS in anyway.
TPN
Jim
<< <i>Put it back up there Cam, Marty is a punk.
Jim >>
<< <i>What? You don't advertise for NGC with the almost daily posts about the grades you got at NGC? Come on Marty.
Cameron Kiefer >>
Oh oh, I better not post the ANACS grades when they come in!!
<< <i>Put it back up there Cam, Marty is a punk.
Jim >>
No. ICG has been great and allowed me to post here. PCGS has allowed me to post here also and not banned me like some members think they should. I don't want to start any trouble and I just want to talk coins with my friends.
Cameron Kiefer
in removing the reference. Case closed.
Camelot
Cameron - In that case, you should also remove the link for SampleSlabs.com. After all, you know that some of us find it distrubing that you are advertising plastic in a coin forum.
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<< <i>Link removed then. I don't want to cause any trouble.
Cameron - In that case, you should also remove the link for SampleSlabs.com. After all, you know that some of us find it distrubing that you are advertising plastic in a coin forum. >>
Cam-0
<< <i>X >>
word!!
<< <i>What? You don't advertise for NGC with the almost daily posts about the grades you got at NGC? Come on Marty. >>
Advertise To make public announcement of, especially to proclaim the qualities or advantages of (a product or business) so as to increase sales.
Cam...with the grades he gets, are you sure you're using the word "advertise" properly?
RELLA
who boasts of twenty years experience in his craft
while in fact he has had only one year of experience...
twenty times.
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<< <i>this is all BS. Put what you want in your sig line. >>
Right on!
Not disturbing. The needle on my level of disturbment intensity meter has not moved; is not moving. :Yikes
Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters.
<< <i>Cameron - In that case, you should also remove the link for SampleSlabs.com. After all, you know that some of us find it distrubing that you are advertising plastic in a coin forum. >>
A coin forum hosted by a company dedicated to the promotion of plastic.
Best,
Billy
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Never want to be like papa
Working for the boss every night and day
--"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)
So maybe "inappropriate," yes...but not "disturbing."
<< <i>It's only right. That was like wearing an IGC tee-shirt to your visit to PCGS! Hell, at work we can get written up if we say the
<< <i>X >>
word!! >>
Oh! That's a great idea!!
42/92
Marty please send me a xerox copy of your Canon regulations.
Joe
<< <i><<IMO, there are far more serious things to be "disturbed" about, in my life, in the world and in numismatics.>>> >>
<< <i>So maybe "inappropriate," yes...but not "disturbing." >>
Does someone on a PCGS forum going to buy ICG products because of a sig line?
That cook Island coin with the Hat on Martys Icon could be disturbing to some as well, should we ban that too.
Something about this thread is very disturbing to me.
Tbig
I think we should put whatever we want in the sigline.
If CU doesn't like it, they're sure to raise an issue,
otherwise..
BACK OFF!
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in removing the reference. Case closed."
Also, would like to see MORE pictures of "The girls in the training bras"
GrandAm
<< <i>So who made Marty sigline police?
I think we should put whatever we want in the sigline.
If CU doesn't like it, they're sure to raise an issue,
otherwise..
BACK OFF! >>
No one did, that's why I just asked about it here. I didn't go crying to the moderators, I was just wondering out loud...
<< <i>Also, would like to see MORE pictures of "The girls in the training bras" >>
Think about this. If you were the people at ICG, would you want your graders posting such things on a coin forum operated by the competition??
Cameron is a nice fellow and an intelligent one at that. But, there comes a time in your life to stop doing certain things and move on. Whether you like the pictures of the girls or not, it shines a bad light on his employer!
<< <i>and he has yet to grade a single coin. >>
I went to Denver and graded for a week before they offered me a job.
Cameron Kiefer
<< <i>I still don't understand how before Cameron went to work for ICG they were the biggest joke in the industry...Now all of a sudden, it's a great company and he has yet to grade a single coin. I wonder how many here would REALLY buy coins in those slabs... >>
ICG was never the biggest joke in the industry. I think they overgrade high-end MS coins, but they are far from a joke and other than coins designated MS-65+, I think they're quite good.
<< <i>I still don't understand how before Cameron went to work for ICG they were the biggest joke in the industry...Now all of a sudden, it's a great company and he has yet to grade a single coin. I wonder how many here would REALLY buy coins in those slabs... >>
I've got some (buy the coin, not the holder).
-g
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<< <i>ICG was never the biggest joke in the industry. I think they overgrade high-end MS coins, but they are far from a joke and other than coins designated MS-65+, I think they're quite good. >>
I should add: Many of the nicest slabbed AU-58 coins I've seen, for example, are in ICG plastic. On average, I've found ICG 58s to be nicer than ANY other TPG's 58s.
ICG was never the biggest joke in the industry. I think they overgrade high-end MS coins, but they are far from a joke and other than coins designated MS-65+, I think they're quite good. >>
ICG was NEVER
<< <i>the biggest joke in the industry. >>
They actually do quite well on lower grade coins.
and there holders are very nice !!
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<< <i>So who made Marty sigline police?
I think we should put whatever we want in the sigline.
If CU doesn't like it, they're sure to raise an issue,
otherwise..
BACK OFF! >>
No one did, that's why I just asked about it here. I didn't go crying to the moderators, I was just wondering out loud... >>
OK. I misinterpreted your intention. My apologies.
May I add that I do not feel this is at all disturbing and that so long
as it is OK with CU (who is paying to host this forum) it is OK with me.
If CU feel threatened by a competitor posting on their forum, they can
notify the individual or take whatever action they feel is appropriate.
I hope they don't because I think its valuable to have opinions from all
parties here.
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<< <i>I don't want to cause any trouble.
Cameron Kiefer >>
Weenie!
Russ, NCNE
I didn't see the sigline in question, but if it was an advertisement, it is understandable to remove. If it is stating that he now works for ICG, then I think it should stay as that is truth and will keep people from mouthing about his intentions (Cameron is honorable but there are a lot of people here that just delight in trying to create/find flaws with every little thing he does). Seems he is damned if he does or doesn't.
The 2nd thing is that Marty could easily have asked Cam about this in PM and not public. It was most likely done for some public bashing. It got the job done.
I think, unless you really really don't like the person, that something like this should be started in email/PM and then, if you REALLY have a problem with it and the other person does nothing, then you post it.
But, that is just me and how I would do it.
btw....this is post 2998 or 2999 for me, isn't it?
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment