Should THIS coin be conserved?....POLL

topstuf · March 5, 2005 9:40AM

Thinkin about it. Mine's the dirty one.
Offered it at a high XF price and got nowhere.
Under the letters of LIBERTY where it didn't get dirty, it is prooflike.

Whaddya think? Send in for a scrub, or leave it disgustingly original?

Russ · March 5, 2005 9:42AM

NO, and HELL NO!

Russ, NCNE

DNADave · March 5, 2005 9:43AM

stev32k · March 5, 2005 9:47AM

If you have it cleaned you are risking a down grade from XF to V. I would never clean a coin below MS60. It may go from a 45 to a 35. I think there is zero chance of getting an AU on that coin.

DHeath · March 5, 2005 9:47AM

Is the 1805 an aluminum pattern?

topstuf · March 5, 2005 9:48AM

B-b-but I might get a higher number printed on the label in the plastic.....

What MORE is there to this stuff?

It's just too complicated. I'm starting STAMPS!

<< If you have it cleaned you are risking a down grade from XF to V. >>

NO NO, ya pay for a GUARANTEE or they don't do it. What I ...have... had done has always mysteriously gone UP a grade.

Purple73 · March 5, 2005 9:49AM

Something wrong with you dude? Your not suffering from any mental illness are you?

Disgustingly Original?

This is a no vote thread for me.....the answer is so clear I can't even believe you would ask it.

Russ · March 5, 2005 9:50AM

<< B-b-but I might get a higher number printed on the label in the plastic..... >>

The one on the left makes me want to puke.

Russ, NCNE

TonedPeaceNut · March 5, 2005 9:50AM

Wrap the slab in tin-foil when you send it in for regrade -- I understand PCGS graders like shining things -- much like chimps, BTW.

TPN

DNADave · March 5, 2005 9:51AM

I would (and have) paid nice premiums for original coins like the 1806. They are just too few and far between in that "unmessed-with" condition. Cleaning that coin, or conserving it if you like, would be a crime IMO.

DHeath · March 5, 2005 9:52AM

Joking aside, the missing R in Liberty on the 05 is dramatic. Is that a lousy strike or a filled die?

tlhoy · March 5, 2005 9:53AM

NO!

ukhoopsfan · March 5, 2005 9:56AM

i voted no

topstuf · March 5, 2005 9:57AM

Dheath....The 1805 is probly a B-3. I have an 1805 in fine with the missing letter.
But I think mine is missing the E. ...... I think......

die variety

cmanbb · March 5, 2005 9:58AM

As I chase original AU58 coins, I would NOT even look at that washed out PCGS AU58 coin.
I beleive I speak for all AU58 chasers

topstuf · March 5, 2005 10:00AM

Shudda knew better than to ask a buncha ...... PURISTS !

I'm callin Coin Vault.

FatMan · March 5, 2005 10:01AM

Good one topstuff

Baley · March 5, 2005 4:12PM

Ok, first, the coin on the left, the 1805 with the weak R, is a B2. When the E in LIBERTY is weak, that's a B3.

thread about varieties of 1805 quarters

next, the 1805 is indeed dipped, however, the hair detail on that die is weak from the same clash with the eagle on the reverse that caused the R to be weak at right (from clash with the tail) neither of these lack of detail is from wear. The coin appears to have the luster to qualify for AU55 and is probably indeed an AU58, if PCGS gave it a 58 they are usually conservative.

Now, on topstuf's pic of the 1806, we can't see the reverse but from the obverse it looks like a B5 and that's a variety that comes with strong obverse details, particularly the hair. Your coin, with some wear on the shoulder and hair over ear, some loss of luster and some circulation marks, looks to me EF45, but not AU. In short, I don't think it's fair to compare two different dates, for this series, for the purpose of grading.. how the different varieties "come" are too much a factor

Finally, as far as conserving the 1806, are you freaking kidding me?

ER · March 5, 2005 4:40PM

I like the dirty one.

lonelyp · March 5, 2005 6:40PM

If you send it to the coin vault they will brush it up put a spit shine on it and get all nice and fingerprints for you

Dismeguy · March 5, 2005 6:59PM

I love toned and original circulated coins, it would be a crime to the hobby to clean that coin

MAD4MORGANS · March 5, 2005 8:01PM

<< Whaddya think? Send in for a scrub, or leave it disgustingly original? >>

By all means...SEND IT IN FOR A SCRUB!!!

And when you're done with it...PUT IT HERE!!

BigGreek · March 5, 2005 8:37PM

<< Thinkin about it. Mine's the dirty one.
Offered it at a high XF price and got nowhere.
Under the letters of LIBERTY where it didn't get dirty, it is prooflike.

Whaddya think? Send in for a scrub, or leave it disgustingly original?

>>

I don't think the color of the coins is what makes the difference in
this case. I think the XF coin just has more wear.

As for cleaning.. sure go ahead

Seriously, do you think NCS can improve the look of that coin?

Gonfunko · March 5, 2005 9:11PM

PLEASE don't do anything to that coin! It's perfect just the way it is. After all, you know it's better than or at least as good as the other - you don't need a TPG to tell you so, and you definitely don't want it to look like the dipped one!

majorbigtime · March 5, 2005 9:42PM

It's original, and I suggest that it would be ill-advised to mess with it.

BillJones · March 5, 2005 10:03PM

What is there to conserve on your coin? It has the original warm gray surfaces that knowledgeable advanced collectors admire.

I don’t like the PCGS AU-58 coin one bit. It’s the kind of early silver that I avoid. There is nothing natural or attractive about it. It’s just a shined up disk of metal that has been made to lure novice collectors into thinking that they are buying a coin that has not toned in 200 years. If that shined up coin were 20 years younger, it would be in a body bag, not a holder. AND if it was an 1805 half cent or cent that had been treated that way, there would be a 100% chance that it would come back to you in a body bag.

coinfreak499 · March 5, 2005 10:07PM

Keep it original! It is much nicer than the 1805 IMO.

RotatedRainbows · March 5, 2005 11:30PM

If you cannot see the luster thru the toning it will not be there after it is dipped which means it will not grade as high as the '05. If you are trying to highlight any marks,nicks or other flaws (which would lower the grade) then by all means have it dipped.

MFH · March 6, 2005 12:00AM

Leave it alone. Its a nice coin just the way it is. "Conserving" it would not bring back any luster, normal wear has taken care of that.

Even if the coin were MS, I'd leave it alone, unless there was PVC present; only then would it go in for a bath.

nwcs · March 6, 2005 12:08AM

Cleaning your coin would only decrease the value.

tmot99 · March 6, 2005 12:17AM

If you are asking the question, you shouldn't even have the coin. You'll have to send it to me for proper care and TLC.

Shamika · March 6, 2005 12:35AM

Is this a trick question?

topstuf · March 6, 2005 7:19AM

Oh all right. I will leave the dingy, black old thing alone.

I actually bought it for the originality and the contrast and, for that matter, even XF is a tough grade in the series.

But, I have seen the light. It's on the 1805.

The coin will remain as is.

Now.........where can I get a bezel?