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MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
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I have a good friend I sell proof sets to (the ones that are close, but not submitting material), and he auctions them on E-bay. Well he puts up a nice 1969 proof set, cameo Kennedy but not DCAM. A board member buys it, and then BÀtches that it is not cameo. Well my buddy is a nice guy and tells him to return the set and he'll ship him another one. The set comes back OPENED! and the Kennedy has been switched! So my buddy calls the buyer who "doesn't recall" opening the set! So for a $5 proof set, he get a returned set that is cracked open, all the long distance phone calls putting up with the jerk and he is out another CAM 69 proof set. I wasn't going to post the auction, but when I was told the set had been cracked open, and the board member said he didn't switch the Kennedy. Well that just frosts my cookie!!!

Block this board member from your auctions!!!
It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

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  • JrGMan2004JrGMan2004 Posts: 7,557 ✭
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    -George
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  • ksteelheaderksteelheader Posts: 11,777 ✭
    He is already on my list, although I don't recall why!
  • ebaytraderebaytrader Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Well that just frosts my cookie!!! >>




    Would that create a cameo effect?
  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295 ✭


    << <i>He is already on my list, although I don't recall why! >>



    Ken, he's the one who posted a thread here trashing Tim Puro for supposedly sending him the wrong type of proof 79-S Kennedy. By time things got sorted out, it was determined he was sent the right coin.
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    This should be an interesting thread.

    Russ, NCNE
    eBay consignment sales | | Collectibles from Resco CCC
  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,652 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He's now on my blocked list, thanks for the warning. Too bad he left positive feedback when the joker paid, too. Of course, the bidder hasn't left feedback for the seller, so even a follow-up comment on the positive feedback would be retaliated with a neg.


    Sean Reynolds
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  • PrethenPrethen Posts: 3,452 ✭✭✭
    What's the board member's name (I can't get to eBay from work)?
  • tlhoytlhoy Posts: 2,204
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  • ksteelheaderksteelheader Posts: 11,777 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>He is already on my list, although I don't recall why! >>



    Ken, he's the one who posted a thread here trashing Tim Puro for supposedly sending him the wrong type of proof 79-S Kennedy. By time things got sorted out, it was determined he was sent the right coin. >>



    That's right. Thanks Eric. This will be a good reminder for all members!

    Ken
  • NumismanicNumismanic Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭


    << <i>What's the board member's name ( >>



    Link to other thread
    Don

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  • XpipedreamRXpipedreamR Posts: 8,059 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Well that just frosts my cookie!!! >>




    Would that create a cameo effect? >>








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  • VTCoinsVTCoins Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭
    I'm having flashbacks! Arghhh!
    Tim Puro
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  • Coinhusker1Coinhusker1 Posts: 3,560 ✭
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  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    This is what the bidder returned.

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    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • tlhoytlhoy Posts: 2,204
    Some of the coins aren't in the same position.
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  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295 ✭
    Well, we've gone from a buyer who was simply a PITA to one who is attempting to defraud sellers. Hopefully your buddy hasn't sent him a refund. If I were your buddy, I would tell him that when he sends enough to cover the postage, he will get his set back. It's not what the seller sold, and has been damaged.

    Amazing that someone would attempt to defraud a seller over $8.37. If I was Murphy, I wouldn't come back here anytime soon.
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>If I was Murphy, I wouldn't come back here anytime soon. >>



    I hope he does come back. I'd really like to hear an explanation for this one.

    Russ, NCNE
    eBay consignment sales | | Collectibles from Resco CCC
  • ksteelheaderksteelheader Posts: 11,777 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>If I was Murphy, I wouldn't come back here anytime soon. >>



    I hope he does come back. I'd really like to hear an explanation for this one.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    My thoughts exactly. This has the potential to be a good thread, even if Marty did start it!image
  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>If I was Murphy, I wouldn't come back here anytime soon. >>



    I hope he does come back. I'd really like to hear an explanation for this one.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    It will probably be somewhere along the lines of "someone in the post office switched the coin, I didn't".

    I have absolutely no tolerence for dishonesty when trading coins. This guy is a loser in my book.
  • SmittysSmittys Posts: 9,876 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Was it a Type 1 or Type 2 Cameo ???image
    https://www.ebay.com/str/christyscoins
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>It will probably be somewhere along the lines of "someone in the post office switched the coin, I didn't". >>



    Yeah, these high dollar items are prone to that. image

    Russ, NCNE
    eBay consignment sales | | Collectibles from Resco CCC
  • tlhoytlhoy Posts: 2,204


    << <i>I hope he does come back. I'd really like to hear an explanation for this one.

    Russ, NCNE >>



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  • coincollector1989coincollector1989 Posts: 856
    Marty thanks for the info I blocked him as well.
    Stacy

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  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    I always thought if a container was cracked open the coin or coins were

    considered sold.
    There once was a place called
    Camelotimage
  • KurtHornKurtHorn Posts: 1,382 ✭
    What kind of cheap SOB messes around with a $8 item? Beside which. If you only paid $8 why screw around with returning it?
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  • LucyBopLucyBop Posts: 14,001 ✭✭✭
    Hoping his reputation getting ruined here was worth the mega bucks, all of 8 whole dollars...
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  • NoGvmntNoGvmnt Posts: 1,126 ✭
    Marty, Jerry told me about this tansaction and his numerous attempts to satisfy the buyer (through numerous long diatance phone calls no less) about two weeks ago (before anyone knew about the switcheroo).

    I advised him to just take the set back, return the guys money, leave hin a newt and then block him from further bidding, but Jerry was worried about his 100% positive feedback. It is a shame (crime?) when people feel they can take advantage of you by dangling a neg at your perfect feedback.

    Jim
  • pharmerpharmer Posts: 8,355 ✭
    He posted yesterday on something, so I'm sure he's reading this and will do the right thing and respond.
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."

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  • GoYankeesGoYankees Posts: 1,025
    Blocked.

    BTW I replied to the wrong post. Cameron's thread (flaminio post) contained a link to eBay's block buyers/bidders list.

    image
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  • SequiturSequitur Posts: 1,195
    Murphy, you are a loser and a fraud.
    Realtime National Debt Clock:

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  • clackamasclackamas Posts: 5,615 ✭
    Blocked
  • MurphyMurphy Posts: 903 ✭
    I was told that this was a "sounding board", but looks like it's more of a chopping block. Is there any use in me defending myself after the VTCoin desaster? ...and now this?

    I can truthfully say that I did not open the first set and switch JFK's. I don't deliberately switch coins - period! What Jerry sent me was what I sent back to him. He described cameo coins in his auction and I was let down by what he sent. I contacted him about it and he offered to send me another set, which he did. I sent the first one back to him with a bonus coin. Things were fine. Then he called last night saying the case was opened and wanted to know if I opened it. I said No, I don't think so. I opened some other sets to put in my albums, but not his - I would never switch coins like what's implied here. If y'all want to insist that I did then fine.

    To think that Jerry is worried about me leaving him negative feedback is wrong - I left him positive feedback on the 17th almost 2 weeks ago.

    I'll make this right with Jerry, but what I do is none of anyone's business here. Marty, I know you're looking out for a valued friend and business acquaintance, but you got me wrong on this. I don't switch coins.
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  • greghansengreghansen Posts: 4,301 ✭✭✭
    The whole coin switch-a-roo issue is moot to me. Being a PITA over an $8 purchase seals the deal for me. Who needs the grief?

    Blocked, blocked, blocked!

    Greg Hansen, Melbourne, FL Click here for any current EBAY auctions Multiple "Circle of Trust" transactions over 14 years on forum

  • tlhoytlhoy Posts: 2,204
    Then he called last night saying the case was opened and wanted to know if I opened it. I said No, I don't think so. I opened some other sets to put in my albums, but not his

    I said No, I don't think so. I opened some other sets to put in my albums, but not his

    I don't think so.

    but not his

    image
  • DeadhorseDeadhorse Posts: 3,720 ✭


    << <i>I'll make this right with Jerry, but what I do is none of anyone's business here. >>



    No, what you have been doing is actually very much everybody's business here.

    Why do you think you are being blocked by so many people??
    "Lenin is certainly right. There is no subtler or more severe means of overturning the existing basis of society(destroy capitalism) than to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and it does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose."
    John Marnard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace, 1920, page 235ff
  • LucyBopLucyBop Posts: 14,001 ✭✭✭
    The HepKitty in the late 90's was a stock market player and I did very very well. However, I bought some shares in a fledgling Internet company, I got in at 10 bucks a share, and the kitty made a large purchase, the stock within weeks tumbled to 30 cents a share....

    What a beating!!!!!!!!!!

    I never thought I would some a stock or somebodys stock plummet faster then the loser outhouse wallpaper I bought, till this character..


    chopping block eh?????

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    SQUARE!
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  • MurphyMurphy Posts: 903 ✭
    Glenn,
    Would you rather that I make up something for your entertainment?
    That's what I said, but you can make up the tone of voice and inflection, hesitation or whatever to make me guilty as you want but I didn't cheat him.
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  • Coinhusker1Coinhusker1 Posts: 3,560 ✭
    Here's the thing:

    If you look at the picture Marty posted, and then the auction picture, all the coins look the same except the JFK. So the "circumstantial" evidence would suggest the coins were switched, or the JFK in the auction picture was "enhanced" with frost, which I think would be hard to do.
  • midwestcoin13midwestcoin13 Posts: 583
    BLOCKED, BLOCKED, and BLOCKEDimage
  • tlhoytlhoy Posts: 2,204


    << <i>Glenn,
    Would you rather that I make up something for your entertainment?
    That's what I said, but you can make up the tone of voice and inflection, hesitation or whatever to make me guilty as you want but I didn't cheat him. >>



    First you said.
    I can truthfully say that I did not open the first set and switch JFK's. I don't deliberately switch coins - period!

    Then you said.
    No, I don't think so.

    Then you said.
    but not his - I would never switch coins like what's implied here.

    Then you said.
    I'll make this right with Jerry

    Then you said.
    I don't switch coins.

    This has nothing to do with the tone, inflection or hesitation of your voice.
    It's your inconsistencies.
  • MurphyMurphy Posts: 903 ✭
    Here's the JFK reverse of the 2nd coin I received from Jerry. I cracked it out last night while on the phone with him.
    This case was loose except for one spot. Does this look like a PR69 set that I was supposedly mailed? Is it me or do I see scratches?
    image

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  • nankrautnankraut Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭
    Blockedimage
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Does this look like a PR69 set that I was supposedly mailed? >>



    There is no grade claim made in the auction description.

    Russ, NCNE
    eBay consignment sales | | Collectibles from Resco CCC
  • MurphyMurphy Posts: 903 ✭
    BTW, I never complained about the scratches. I had a good conversation with Jerry last night and he asked to have the case back that the second set was in after I'd cracked it open. He asked me to look at the second set to see if it was open and I easily opened it with a fingernail. That's when he asked if he could have the case. I have it ready to send including the coins, but am holding off until I can talk to him on the phone later. I tried to call already, but he's not home.
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  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Is it me or do I see scratches? >>

    I don't look at proof kennedy's unless I have to. : ) But, I think I see die polish lines as opposed to scratches.
  • MurphyMurphy Posts: 903 ✭
    Russ, I believe Marty said this in his initial post and that's where my comment comes from:
    "...he is out another CAM 69 proof set."

    I was definitely not EVER sent a CAM 69 proof set by anyone in this world! Ever.
    image Monster Wavy Steps Rule! - 1999, WSDDR-015, 1999P-1DR-003 - 2 known
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  • F117ASRF117ASR Posts: 1,416 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I don't look at proof kennedy's unless I have to. >>



    Ouch!

    Anyway, Jerry is a nice fellow. This is a pretty big thing over such a small set but I don't believe that anyone should switch out a coin. It is a very low thing to do.
    Beware of the flying monkeys!
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  • MurphyMurphy Posts: 903 ✭
    Coinguy, will it grade PR69?
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  • MurphyMurphy Posts: 903 ✭
    I didn't switch a coin.
    image Monster Wavy Steps Rule! - 1999, WSDDR-015, 1999P-1DR-003 - 2 known
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  • kieferscoinskieferscoins Posts: 10,017 ✭


    << <i>Coinguy, will it grade PR69? >>



    Probably not, but no one said including the description that it was PR-69.

    Cameron Kiefer

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