Original Holders for 1941 Proof Set, Man were they cheap..See Pic

Smittys

I had bought an original 1941 proof set and these are
the holder they were in.
Great way to store for 60 years.

kieferscoins

Yep.

Cameron Kiefer

Merc

Nice. That would have looked great in my coin exhibit last year at the FUN show. I did Proof Coinage of the 1940's and had many things but not the origional packaging. That would have made my exhibit complete. I did see one one set of holders like you have for sale on ebay by a major dealer. He wanted $47! There were no bids.

Coinhusker1

Show us a pic of the coins!!

Smittys

I sent them to Forgive me NCS then NGC
They came back 1c PR65RB Rainbow Toning(More purple) 5c PR66
10c PR66 25c Pr67 50c PR66.
I've sold the Mercury and walker.
This was in a collection that over time had 1939-42 sets
two were in original holder one was just in tissue paper and one was
in a old cardboard holder. Some of the coins were almost black
so I sent them to NCS then NGC

Peaceman

Thanks Smitty, I had a post up on a 36' and couldn't find a pic of it.

Coinhusker1

<< <i>I sent them to Forgive me NCS then NGC
They came back 1c PR65RB Rainbow Toning(More purple) 5c PR66
10c PR66 25c Pr67 50c PR66.
I've sold the Mercury and walker.
This was in a collection that over time had 1939-42 sets
two were in original holder one was just in tissue paper and one was
in a old cardboard holder. Some of the coins were almost black
so I sent them to NCS then NGC >>



If you have images of "before and after" NCS of any of these coins, it would be interesting to see.

Conder101

Those look like polyethlyene sleeves to me, not the cellophane that they used back in 41.

Smittys

They are the very brittle cellophane, I have another set which is more yellowed.
as for the before and after I only did the cent obv, but the reverse looked the same
here you go before and after

thebeav

I kinda like that blue cent. I wonder how they do that ?

Paul

magikbilly

I would have left that set as is - or was Such a deeply and attractively toned set - the Walker - even if black I'd prefer it. That Lincioln was beautuful - pardon the stupid question but where did the purple "come from"? I would agree with Conder - those look the slighlty more pliable material used after "Cello" but you have them in hand.

Best,
Billy

IrishMike

I emailed the mint historian yesterday, it will be interesting to see what if anything they have to say about the packaging used to ship them out.

Smittys

I wasn't a member of either message board at the time, I think I should have left them
all toned, but I sent them in to NCS to get there opinion. We all do thing we wished we didn't.
As for the holders it may be from the white background on the scan, but they crinkle when touched
and are not plyible. Wish I'd have taken more before and after, the only reason I did the cent
was I didn't think the did much with copper. Underneath the toning on the cent was a rainbow
when seen in person (another pic added) I've learned a lot since joining the Boards, Natural is best.
I guess I'd know that now.
Thanks for the comments.

magikbilly

<< <i>I emailed the mint historian yesterday, it will be interesting to see what if anything they have to say about the packaging used to ship them out. >>



From what I understand, there was no standard way of packing sets at that time, but then why/how did they keep track of the number of sets? I also think you could get the 1c, 5c and 10c together - but that may have been earler in the Mints history. Anxious to hear what they say!

Billy

Conder101

Thanks for the clarification on the sleeves.

Back in 1941 the coins were sold individually you could order any mix or match of coins you desired and any number of each coin you wanted The proofs were not sold as sets only until 1950. That's why the mintages of the individual pre-1950 proofs aren't all the same and why most of them are higher than the proof set "Mintage" listed in the reference books. The set mintage is the same as the lowest individual coin mintage becase that is the maximum number of sets for that year that could be theoretically assembled.

IrishMike

Coner that has always been my understanding also, but in another thread on a 36 set one of the members here saw a carboard sleeve and a postal date on a 1942 set that indicates that perhaps in 1942 you could buy them similar to the mind fifties mint sets.

magikbilly

<< <i>Thanks for the clarification on the sleeves.

Back in 1941 the coins were sold individually you could order any mix or match of coins you desired and any number of each coin you wanted The proofs were not sold as sets only until 1950. That's why the mintages of the individual pre-1950 proofs aren't all the same and why most of them are higher than the proof set "Mintage" listed in the reference books. The set mintage is the same as the lowest individual coin mintage becase that is the maximum number of sets for that year that could be theoretically assembled. Conder101 >>



Conder, you wrote on Wednesday January 14, 2004 "I have an original 1938 proof set that arrived in a cloth/fiber envelope. I bought it from the man that bought it from the mint in 1938." Did you find that set was not authentic? You also wrote that "the mint sold proofs as individual coins from 1936 through 1942. If you find an original set it was because the collector ordered all five coins." So, did they sell sets or not? Is a "set" all six coins or all six coins in some kind of "set" packaging? What did a person who ordered all the coins get - five coins or a "set" of "cellophane" in an envelope or box or the cloth/fibre thingie you described? I am guessing they started out with no real method having just started up again in 1936 (working through satin and brilliant finishes in '36) and by the early 40's they had something worked out re packaging as orders and mintages increaesd. I also recall the 6 pc 42 set mentioned. What is your thinking?

Best for the New Year!
Billy

coinguy89

The wheat cent looks pretty cool, nice job.

Conder101

The man I bought the 1938 set from ordered one each of the five individual coins. They arrived, each in its own individual cellophane sleeve and the sleeves stapled together at the top the same way as you see them in the 1950 - 54 box sets. The stapled sleeves were than put into a fiber re-enforced envelope and mailed to the purchaser. (Eight cent postage).

I would suppose that whatever you ordered they would have come that same way. In the sleeves, stapled together, and shipped. It wouldn't matter if you ordered one of each coin or five of one type.

Also note that I said in te earlier post that "they were not sold as sets only until 1950". You could get sets before that by ordering one each of the coins, but the mint did not specifically offer them as sets, just as individual coins.

BillJones

I read in a "Coin Prices" magazine a few months ago that the mint would allow you to purchase individual Proof coins AFTER you had purchased a complete Proof set. In other words, one could not just order a cent and nothing else. You only were able to buy individual coins with a set purchase.

It makes sense to me. Even then the handling costs of mailing one Proof cent would have made such orders losers for the mint operation.

Craton

<< <i>Those look like polyethlyene sleeves to me, not the cellophane that they used back in 41. >>



That is funny. When I looked at the image I was thinking to myself "Those look like cello and not the poly bags that you find sometimes in home-made sets."

JRocco

Here are the boxes they used to come in.