Imagine you're at the FUN show and a huge bomb goes off....
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.....in the showroom and almost everyone leaves in a panic. Those who don't leave in a panic are knocked unconscious. None of the dealers take their coins with them. You are completely unhurt.
You have a video camera with you because you you were doing a story for a home town TV station.
There is a dealer there who you know has insurance with a company that is owned by a guy who is known to support white supremist Nazis in Germany that are gaining a foothold and which are committing horrible crimes. (You know this because the Coin Wold that came out immediately before the FUN show did an expose on the insurance company, because many dealers have insurance with this company. ) This dealer has unc early gold by the dozens, unc early copper by the dozens, and other coins that are worth at least 30 million (all slabbed by pcgs and ngc). He is by far the largest dealer at the show.
The insurance company is not huge and the losses to it will be so large that it will go under and there will be funding cut off to the white supremist group that will be directly correlated to saved lives in Germany.
Do you video tape thieves who are beginning to loot the place or do you join in and empty your large camera bad and grab hundreds of coins that will be worth tens of millions allowing you to never have to work again? The dealer will be fully reimbursed for the loss and you will not get caught.
(This scenario is a total fantasy; any similarities to real life are coincidental.)
You have a video camera with you because you you were doing a story for a home town TV station.
There is a dealer there who you know has insurance with a company that is owned by a guy who is known to support white supremist Nazis in Germany that are gaining a foothold and which are committing horrible crimes. (You know this because the Coin Wold that came out immediately before the FUN show did an expose on the insurance company, because many dealers have insurance with this company. ) This dealer has unc early gold by the dozens, unc early copper by the dozens, and other coins that are worth at least 30 million (all slabbed by pcgs and ngc). He is by far the largest dealer at the show.
The insurance company is not huge and the losses to it will be so large that it will go under and there will be funding cut off to the white supremist group that will be directly correlated to saved lives in Germany.
Do you video tape thieves who are beginning to loot the place or do you join in and empty your large camera bad and grab hundreds of coins that will be worth tens of millions allowing you to never have to work again? The dealer will be fully reimbursed for the loss and you will not get caught.
(This scenario is a total fantasy; any similarities to real life are coincidental.)
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Tom
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Tom Pilitowski
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I think the video footage would be valuable to a TV network so that is a consideration. I think lawless thieves might forcefully take the camera and/or hurt me to protect themselves.
I'll add something else. The insurance company is not huge and the losses to it will be so large that it will go under and there will be funding cut off to the white supremist group that will be directly correlated to saved lives in Germany.
I liked the last part I included about saving lives by making the insurance company go under.
foodude - is that the Franklin that sold for 69K?
There is no right answer !
Cameron Kiefer
That is so true, 100. Maybe you could frame it - Do you want to save lives and live in luxury or do you want to do what is technically right when you could help right the the wrong?
No, my icon is just a gorgeous 1960 PCGS MS65 endroller. The Franklin that sold for $60,000+ was the highst (PCGS) grade FBL '53-S- MS6FBL. I think it sold a couple years later for less, but I don't recall the amount. My '53-S is only MS65FBL.
<< <i>Theft is theft...no matter how noble the cause. >>
I would agree. Tape it and turn it in.
TBT
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Yeah, right.
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All theft may be theft, but that doesn't mean all theft is immoral. For example, would it be immoral to steal WMD from Saddam? How about stealing your son's stash of heroin? How about stealing incriminating evidence for a crime of which you are innocent?
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I say this because I see the same coins in their showcase year after year after year.
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I think it's more likely that you'd all be heading for the door with the rest of the crowd, hoping your Depends don't spring a leak...
Tom
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Tom Pilitowski
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If it were me, I would set the camera down so it is still filming (disguising it to the best of my ability in the few seconds I have) and point it toward the thieves. I would then grab some of the coins myself out of camera range. I don't think I could resist the temptation. But, I wouldn't load down with them. Then, I think I'd High Tail it out of there!
Stacy
rainbowroosie April 1, 2003
Jerry
Sun Dec 19, 8:03 AM ET
CANBERRA, Australia - An Italian tourist aboard a flight from Sydney to Vienna caused an international security alert after he sent a joke text message from his cell phone to his wife claiming his plane had been hijacked by terrorists, the Australian government confirmed Sunday.
The man, Antonio Casale, 35, sent the message to his wife from Kuala Lumpur during a refueling stop on a Lauda Air flight from Sydney last Sunday night, Sydney's Sunday Telegraph newspaper reported.
Transport Minister John Anderson's spokesman confirmed the newspaper report.
Casale claimed terrorists were in control of the plane and were taking the passengers to an unknown destination.
His distressed wife contacted Italian police, who immediately contacted the Italian embassy in Canberra, who in turn contacted Australian Federal Police.
Anderson's spokesman said authorities were able to quickly establish Casale's identity and discover the message was a hoax.
The pilot was reportedly contacted while in flight by counterterrorism negotiators, who found him oblivious to any hijacking attempt.
"The Italian police picked up on it, then the Italian embassy, the Australian Federal Police came in on it and it was quite a big operation," Anderson's spokesman said on condition of anonymity.
"Federal police and other authorities over here have got enough on their plate without having to worry about stupidity like this as well," he added.
The Sunday Telegraph reported Casale was taken aside by the plane's captain and detained by police when the plane landed in Vienna.
He was questioned by police and later released without charge.
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Tom Pilitowski
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Cameron Kiefer
<< <i>Never steal so I would videotape the thiefs so they might be able to be identified later by police and caught. >>
Or hold the tape hostage to the insurance company and demand a 10% fee on the goods recovered.
<< <i>Tom - You're trying to hijack a thread with a fake hijacking? >>
Never!
Tom
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Tom Pilitowski
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I think most everyone would die in real life if such a thing happened.
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<< <i>??? Proper action seems clear to me. Alternate between vidiotaping the thieves and trying to help the injured. I'm surprised at the number of people here who would use the opportunity to join in the looting. >>
I 'm sure they were just kidding...............................Yeah, right.
Moral? Helping end hunger/strife, getting rid of terrorisism and crooks- yeah I'll take the money n run.
Besides if a bomb were to go off- who is going to be alive to tell about the theavery? y'all be runnin so fast for the locked doors that you will kill each other trying to get out.
Besides this is the USA - there would be so many "unconcealed" concealed weapons out I'd be on the floor with everyone else playing dead while muttering "but I'm not in Iraq! I'm not in Iraq...."
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You have a forbidden word in your message post. Please click the back button in your browser and remove this word from your post. The words that are forbidden are highlighted for you. Oh COME ON!! Nazis...?? Take the friggin' coins and laugh all the way. These bastidges would take your eyeballs and use them as toys!! It's a dog eat Nazi world, folks! Nice one Adrian. Too bad most people don't hace the stones to REALLY analyze the situation!
And here I was, all worried about the auctions!
Is this big dealer modeled after anybody we know?
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