Robert - I challenge you to find me one of these at the next 5 major shows you go to:
Frank,
You are a gentleman and a (numismatic) scholar, and I intend no offense. Ever since I was a young boy, I was always more fascinated with absolute rarity than with condition. I was much more excited about my VG 1926-S 5c than my MS-66 38-D. In my way of looking at things, I would be just as satisfied owning a nice MS-65 (without the FS designation) at a fraction of the price, and they are as common as dirt. Your coin is very nice but just does not get me excited. I expect that you probably feel the same way about my dirty circulated 19th century coins. I do respect your quest for the best in your series of interest and laud your efforts to educate others.
Most boring 19th century coins The Nickel Three Cent Piece
20th century coins - in order of sleep inducement -
Highest level boring Ikes, Sackies, Suzies are most boring
Next level boring Lincoln Memorial cents, Washington quarters BUT NOT the state quarters. They are OK :
Third Tier boring Jefferson nickels ;
Almost out of a coma Franklin Half Dollars and JFK half dollars
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
B. E. A. utifull Roseys FC57Coins! That is a fantasticly matched toned set! I did happen to notice they stop @ 1964 though. They do tend to lose a-lot of their charm the very next year....
Frankly I've always liked the Roosevelt dime. I even have a BU set of the silver pieces in my collection.
They are fairly cheep if you don't go overboard paying for toning, and they are not a bad looking coin. They are definitely more interesting than the Barber Dime, which is a real "Plain Jane" coin.
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
<< <i>You are a gentleman and a (numismatic) scholar, and I intend no offense. Ever since I was a young boy, I was always more fascinated with absolute rarity than with condition. I was much more excited about my VG 1926-S 5c than my MS-66 38-D. In my way of looking at things, I would be just as satisfied owning a nice MS-65 (without the FS designation) at a fraction of the price, and they are as common as dirt. Your coin is very nice but just does not get me excited. I expect that you probably feel the same way about my dirty circulated 19th century coins. I do respect your quest for the best in your series of interest and laud your efforts to educate others. >>
Well dang'it Robert - I was hoping to get you riled up enough to have you find me another one
The design is just dull and boring IMO. You have a uninteresting female profile on the obvese and a Roman Numeral III and a wreath on the reverse. Snooze time for me. For my type set, gettting the coin really was no more than "filling a hole." Thank goodness I needed ONLY one!
About the only thing that makes these coins interesting is clash marks. This series has more than its share of those.
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
<< <i>B. E. A. utifull Roseys FC57Coins! That is a fantasticly matched toned set! I did happen to notice they stop @ 1964 though. They do tend to lose a-lot of their charm the very next year.... >>
That's where the dimes and quarters get interesting.
After '64 the coins appear in three different metallic compositions with three different kinds of proofs and they are from four different mints. Varieties abound and many are unreported. Designs changed almost annually after 1964 and there are numerous mules caused by the use of old or proof reverse dies. Since people neglected to save these coins after 1964 some of the varieties don't even exist in high grade or even in uncirculated condition. Many of the coins are scarce even in nice attractive unc. There are few collectors and no books on the coins except for a new one which touches on the dimes fairly well. If you want to attack sets of these you're still almost entirely on your own and have to seek the coins raw or deal with specialist dealers since few even bother to stock the coins. Unlike most US coins one can't simply go to E-bay and buy a set or all the constituent parts unless one seeks a typical set with numerous unattractive coins. Even if unattractive does appeal to a collector most of the varieties and special is- sues are rarely offered for sale and, of course, finding the unreported varieties almost has to be done in the circulating coins. These are almost the only collectible series of US coins that freely circulate and are really the only freely circulating US coins since the 1850's.
There probably aren't any boring series of US coins since there aren't any extremely short and uniform series of coins. The SBA, or 20c might come closest but those who study and collect these series would no doubt argue the point. There is a lot more to even the short series than meets the eye of the casual observer and the short series almost by definition tend to constitute great type coins.
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I challenge all of you to find a 1965 (not SMS), 1966(not SMS), 1967(not SMS), 1968-D, 1969-D or 1970-D Jefferson Nickel in a raw MS65 Full Steps grade that PCGS will grade as 65 Full Steps.
Actually, don't look for them... don't buy them... and continue to hold contempt for them.
It might save me money.
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In memory of the USAF Security Forces lost: A1C Elizabeth N. Jacobson, 9/28/05; SSgt Brian McElroy, 1/22/06; TSgt Jason Norton, 1/22/06; A1C Lee Chavis, 10/14/06; SSgt John Self, 5/14/07; A1C Jason Nathan, 6/23/07; SSgt Travis Griffin, 4/3/08; 1Lt Joseph Helton, 9/8/09; SrA Nicholas J. Alden, 3/3/2011. God Bless them and all those who have lost loved ones in this war. I will never forget their loss.
<< <i>Btw I say NONE r boring. Some r plain but study the history, it makes the most "boring" coin interesting. >>
Some may say that coins are like cities: there's no boring city, only boring minds visiting them. Still, there is a consensus that some places to visit are fascinating only to the easily amused or to those most obsessed with local trivia who haven't had the chance to explore elsewhere. Why are New Orleans LA or Eureka Springs AR considered more interesting than, say Omaha NE or Elyria OH? Might some have more history to study or has been studied than others?
(I now insert my digression about Elyria, OH, which is a sterotypical "rust belt" city near Cleveland and Lake Erie. I attended college near there, and a good friend almost convinced me to join him in postgraduate work at Elyria's Perkins School of Piano Tuning and Technology - whose unofficial motto was "Close Enough Is Good Enough". Elyria OH 20 years ago claimed the only piano tuning school with an olympic size swimming pool and a steam room, since it was housed in a huge former YMCA. However, Elyria was almost an industrial ghost town even then, with high unemployment and few prosperous businesses, other than a shopping mall on the outskirsts of town and a bar on one side of the town square with a huge illuminated sign of a beer mug whose timed light bulbs simulated overflowing froth. The bar was called Big Dick's Place (I kid you not!) At Christmas, 1982 the Baby Jesus from the nativity scene in Elyria's town square was kidnapped. Soon after, a letter to the editor of the Elyria newspaper, signed by "The Elyria Revolutionary Army" claimed responsiblility and demanded new job creation, lower taxes, and a few crazy demands. The local police followed leads and within a week the Elyria Revolutinary Army felt the heat and ditched the plastic baby Jesus in the men's room of Big Dick's Place.)
I happen to be fixated on artistically "boring" Barber dimes, but I have to work harder to find sufficient interest in U.S. bullion issues (with better designs), or any of the "dead president" issues from the last 40 years. Yes, Washington Quarters and Ike Dollars may offer some interesting anecdotes like a plastic baby Jesus' kidnappers' surrender in Big Dick's men's room. But who can write a book about it which will keep you up all night and keep you coming back for more, if there are more interesting places to check out?
"Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity" - Hanlon's Razor
Some may say that coins are like cities: there's no boring city, only boring minds visiting them. Still, there is a consensus that some places to visit are fascinating only to the easily amused or to those most obsessed with local trivia who haven't had the chance to explore elsewhere. Why are New Orleans LA or Eureka Springs AR considered more interesting than, say Omaha NE or Elyria OH? Might some have more history to study or has been studied than others?
(I now insert my digression about Elyria, OH, which is a sterotypical "rust belt" city near Cleveland and Lake Erie. I attended college near there, and a good friend almost convinced me to join him in postgraduate work at Elyria's Perkins School of Piano Tuning and Technology - whose unofficial motto was "Close Enough Is Good Enough". Elyria OH 20 years ago claimed the only piano tuning school with an olympic size swimming pool and a steam room, since it was housed in a huge former YMCA. However, Elyria was almost an industrial ghost town even then, with high unemployment and few prosperous businesses, other than a shopping mall on the outskirsts of town and a bar on one side of the town square with a huge illuminated sign of a beer mug whose timed light bulbs simulated overflowing froth. The bar was called Big Dick's Place (I kid you not!) At Christmas, 1982 the Baby Jesus from the nativity scene in Elyria's town square was kidnapped. Soon after, a letter to the editor of the Elyria newspaper, signed by "The Elyria Revolutionary Army" claimed responsiblility and demanded new job creation, lower taxes, and a few crazy demands. The local police followed leads and within a week the Elyria Revolutinary Army felt the heat and ditched the plastic baby Jesus in the men's room of Big Dick's Place.)
I happen to be fixated on artistically "boring" Barber dimes, but I have to work harder to find sufficient interest in U.S. bullion issues (with better designs), or any of the "dead president" issues from the last 40 years. Yes, Washington Quarters and Ike Dollars may offer some interesting anecdotes like a plastic baby Jesus' kidnappers' surrender in Big Dick's men's room. But who can write a book about it which will keep you up all night and keep you coming back for more, if there are more interesting places to check out? >>
To continue the analogy, Morgans are Paris and large cents are New York. The elite sit in the cafes of the great cities and talk of of the mundane and the profound. They attend the finest and most important plays and play at the finest night clubs. The tab may be a little higher, but this is what one pays for quality and even the proletariat in such places know quality when they see it. For newbies and tourists there are well made maps and guidebooks of nearly every type and even these are well made and of great interest in their own right.
The later coins are a modern city in a planned economy run amok. Everything's there from the bistros to the great concert halls and convention centers. The beds are made in the finest hotels and a skeleton staff even keeps a fresh mint on each. Sight-seeing boats ply the rivers and mass- ive high-ways tie all of its parts together. Everything's here except the people. The boats and highways are nearly deserted. Few people live here and most of those who maintain the city fly in from far off places.
Perhaps this city will never serve the function for which it was intended but there are those who appreciate a bargain and people are beginning to learn of this place where the finest hotels cost a tiny fraction of what they would elsewhere and huge feasts can be had for the price of a sand- wich.
Most Londoners or Chicagoans may be thinking this sounds a lot like Chernoble, but in point of fact this place isn't really toxic or radioactive. And while it may not be Xanadu or Atlantis either, there is a nice view and a real spirit among the inhabitants. In time its houses and and streets will fill and we'll all get to see what kind of city it really is.
I have to admit, I've gotten a good laugh out of this thread. It seems that virtually every single type of U.S. coin has been picked on except for maybe certain "obvious" choices like Saint Gaudens, Standing Liberty, etc.
Okay, I'm also a little hurt that some of you "picked on" some of my fav's like the 2-cent and (both) 3-cent series. Hey, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
My pick for the most boring is basically all our current coinage (not to mention quite a few dumb quarter designs, as well). The stuff in our pockets is quite stale. It's gotta go. The worst offender is the Lincoln cent coming up on 100 years.
Comments
Frank,
You are a gentleman and a (numismatic) scholar, and I intend no offense. Ever since I was a young boy, I was always more fascinated with absolute rarity than with condition. I was much more excited about my VG 1926-S 5c than my MS-66 38-D. In my way of looking at things, I would be just as satisfied owning a nice MS-65 (without the FS designation) at a fraction of the price, and they are as common as dirt. Your coin is very nice but just does not get me excited. I expect that you probably feel the same way about my dirty circulated 19th century coins. I do respect your quest for the best in your series of interest and laud your efforts to educate others.
The Nickel Three Cent Piece
20th century coins - in order of sleep inducement -
Highest level boring
Ikes, Sackies, Suzies are most boring
Next level boring
Lincoln Memorial cents, Washington quarters BUT NOT the state quarters. They are OK
Third Tier boring
Jefferson nickels ;
Almost out of a coma
Franklin Half Dollars and JFK half dollars
I did happen to notice they stop @ 1964 though.
They do tend to lose a-lot of their charm the very next year....
...
They are fairly cheep if you don't go overboard paying for toning, and they are not a bad looking coin. They are definitely more interesting than the Barber Dime, which is a real "Plain Jane" coin.
<< <i>You are a gentleman and a (numismatic) scholar, and I intend no offense. Ever since I was a young boy, I was always more fascinated with absolute rarity than with condition. I was much more excited about my VG 1926-S 5c than my MS-66 38-D. In my way of looking at things, I would be just as satisfied owning a nice MS-65 (without the FS designation) at a fraction of the price, and they are as common as dirt. Your coin is very nice but just does not get me excited. I expect that you probably feel the same way about my dirty circulated 19th century coins. I do respect your quest for the best in your series of interest and laud your efforts to educate others. >>
Well dang'it Robert - I was hoping to get you riled up enough to have you find me another one
About the only thing that makes these coins interesting is clash marks. This series has more than its share of those.
<< <i>B. E. A. utifull Roseys FC57Coins! That is a fantasticly matched toned set!
I did happen to notice they stop @ 1964 though.
They do tend to lose a-lot of their charm the very next year.... >>
That's where the dimes and quarters get interesting.
After '64 the coins appear in three different metallic compositions with three different
kinds of proofs and they are from four different mints. Varieties abound and many are
unreported. Designs changed almost annually after 1964 and there are numerous
mules caused by the use of old or proof reverse dies. Since people neglected to save
these coins after 1964 some of the varieties don't even exist in high grade or even in
uncirculated condition. Many of the coins are scarce even in nice attractive unc. There
are few collectors and no books on the coins except for a new one which touches on
the dimes fairly well. If you want to attack sets of these you're still almost entirely on
your own and have to seek the coins raw or deal with specialist dealers since few even
bother to stock the coins. Unlike most US coins one can't simply go to E-bay and buy a
set or all the constituent parts unless one seeks a typical set with numerous unattractive
coins. Even if unattractive does appeal to a collector most of the varieties and special is-
sues are rarely offered for sale and, of course, finding the unreported varieties almost has
to be done in the circulating coins. These are almost the only collectible series of US coins
that freely circulate and are really the only freely circulating US coins since the 1850's.
There probably aren't any boring series of US coins since there aren't any extremely short
and uniform series of coins. The SBA, or 20c might come closest but those who study and
collect these series would no doubt argue the point. There is a lot more to even the short
series than meets the eye of the casual observer and the short series almost by definition
tend to constitute great type coins.
If I run across one, it is all yours.
Actually, don't look for them... don't buy them... and continue to hold contempt for them.
It might save me money.
In memory of the USAF Security Forces lost: A1C Elizabeth N. Jacobson, 9/28/05; SSgt Brian McElroy, 1/22/06; TSgt Jason Norton, 1/22/06; A1C Lee Chavis, 10/14/06; SSgt John Self, 5/14/07; A1C Jason Nathan, 6/23/07; SSgt Travis Griffin, 4/3/08; 1Lt Joseph Helton, 9/8/09; SrA Nicholas J. Alden, 3/3/2011. God Bless them and all those who have lost loved ones in this war. I will never forget their loss.
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<< <i>Cool, no one said Franklins
No Attack! Just wondering why? That man was full of history.
Btw I say NONE r boring. Some r plain but study the history, it makes the most "boring" coin interesting.
Thank You
SilverDollar
<< <i>Btw I say NONE r boring. Some r plain but study the history, it makes the most "boring" coin interesting.
>>
Some may say that coins are like cities: there's no boring city, only boring minds visiting them. Still, there is a consensus that some places to visit are fascinating only to the easily amused or to those most obsessed with local trivia who haven't had the chance to explore elsewhere. Why are New Orleans LA or Eureka Springs AR considered more interesting than, say Omaha NE or Elyria OH? Might some have more history to study or has been studied than others?
(I now insert my digression about Elyria, OH, which is a sterotypical "rust belt" city near Cleveland and Lake Erie. I attended college near there, and a good friend almost convinced me to join him in postgraduate work at Elyria's Perkins School of Piano Tuning and Technology - whose unofficial motto was "Close Enough Is Good Enough". Elyria OH 20 years ago claimed the only piano tuning school with an olympic size swimming pool and a steam room, since it was housed in a huge former YMCA. However, Elyria was almost an industrial ghost town even then, with high unemployment and few prosperous businesses, other than a shopping mall on the outskirsts of town and a bar on one side of the town square with a huge illuminated sign of a beer mug whose timed light bulbs simulated overflowing froth. The bar was called Big Dick's Place (I kid you not!) At Christmas, 1982 the Baby Jesus from the nativity scene in Elyria's town square was kidnapped. Soon after, a letter to the editor of the Elyria newspaper, signed by "The Elyria Revolutionary Army" claimed responsiblility and demanded new job creation, lower taxes, and a few crazy demands. The local police followed leads and within a week the Elyria Revolutinary Army felt the heat and ditched the plastic baby Jesus in the men's room of Big Dick's Place.)
I happen to be fixated on artistically "boring" Barber dimes, but I have to work harder to find sufficient interest in U.S. bullion issues (with better designs), or any of the "dead president" issues from the last 40 years. Yes, Washington Quarters and Ike Dollars may offer some interesting anecdotes like a plastic baby Jesus' kidnappers' surrender in Big Dick's men's room. But who can write a book about it which will keep you up all night and keep you coming back for more, if there are more interesting places to check out?
Mike
<< <i>57 Proof Sets.
42/92
Ike Dollars.
http://www.FreeMiniMacs.com/?r=14371642
<< <i>
Some may say that coins are like cities: there's no boring city, only boring minds visiting them. Still, there is a consensus that some places to visit are fascinating only to the easily amused or to those most obsessed with local trivia who haven't had the chance to explore elsewhere. Why are New Orleans LA or Eureka Springs AR considered more interesting than, say Omaha NE or Elyria OH? Might some have more history to study or has been studied than others?
(I now insert my digression about Elyria, OH, which is a sterotypical "rust belt" city near Cleveland and Lake Erie. I attended college near there, and a good friend almost convinced me to join him in postgraduate work at Elyria's Perkins School of Piano Tuning and Technology - whose unofficial motto was "Close Enough Is Good Enough". Elyria OH 20 years ago claimed the only piano tuning school with an olympic size swimming pool and a steam room, since it was housed in a huge former YMCA. However, Elyria was almost an industrial ghost town even then, with high unemployment and few prosperous businesses, other than a shopping mall on the outskirsts of town and a bar on one side of the town square with a huge illuminated sign of a beer mug whose timed light bulbs simulated overflowing froth. The bar was called Big Dick's Place (I kid you not!) At Christmas, 1982 the Baby Jesus from the nativity scene in Elyria's town square was kidnapped. Soon after, a letter to the editor of the Elyria newspaper, signed by "The Elyria Revolutionary Army" claimed responsiblility and demanded new job creation, lower taxes, and a few crazy demands. The local police followed leads and within a week the Elyria Revolutinary Army felt the heat and ditched the plastic baby Jesus in the men's room of Big Dick's Place.)
I happen to be fixated on artistically "boring" Barber dimes, but I have to work harder to find sufficient interest in U.S. bullion issues (with better designs), or any of the "dead president" issues from the last 40 years. Yes, Washington Quarters and Ike Dollars may offer some interesting anecdotes like a plastic baby Jesus' kidnappers' surrender in Big Dick's men's room. But who can write a book about it which will keep you up all night and keep you coming back for more, if there are more interesting places to check out? >>
To continue the analogy, Morgans are Paris and large cents are New York. The elite sit in the
cafes of the great cities and talk of of the mundane and the profound. They attend the finest
and most important plays and play at the finest night clubs. The tab may be a little higher, but
this is what one pays for quality and even the proletariat in such places know quality when they
see it. For newbies and tourists there are well made maps and guidebooks of nearly every type
and even these are well made and of great interest in their own right.
The later coins are a modern city in a planned economy run amok. Everything's there from the
bistros to the great concert halls and convention centers. The beds are made in the finest hotels
and a skeleton staff even keeps a fresh mint on each. Sight-seeing boats ply the rivers and mass-
ive high-ways tie all of its parts together. Everything's here except the people. The boats and
highways are nearly deserted. Few people live here and most of those who maintain the city
fly in from far off places.
Perhaps this city will never serve the function for which it was intended but there are those who
appreciate a bargain and people are beginning to learn of this place where the finest hotels cost
a tiny fraction of what they would elsewhere and huge feasts can be had for the price of a sand-
wich.
Most Londoners or Chicagoans may be thinking this sounds a lot like Chernoble, but in point of
fact this place isn't really toxic or radioactive. And while it may not be Xanadu or Atlantis either,
there is a nice view and a real spirit among the inhabitants. In time its houses and and streets
will fill and we'll all get to see what kind of city it really is.
Okay, I'm also a little hurt that some of you "picked on" some of my fav's like the 2-cent and (both) 3-cent series. Hey, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
My pick for the most boring is basically all our current coinage (not to mention quite a few dumb quarter designs, as well). The stuff in our pockets is quite stale. It's gotta go. The worst offender is the Lincoln cent coming up on 100 years.