The most beautifully toned Peace Dollar ... ever
Rob790
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Ok, here she is. I would grade her 64 with some a solid upshot potential at 65. The luster is very strong under the toning and the colors look pretty close to the pictures. Here are 3 pictures to capture luster, toning and the reverse.
After much searching I found an NGC morgan with almost identical toning.
Any opinions would be appreciated.
After much searching I found an NGC morgan with almost identical toning.
Any opinions would be appreciated.
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That being said, I hope you get it into a holder because if you do, you will make alot of money.
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Billy
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Pretty!
Pretty Awesome!
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Best,
Billy
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rainbowroosie April 1, 2003
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Interesting....very interesting.......
“It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.” Mark Twain
Newmismatist
<< <i>If the Peace dollar was snug against the original bag for 75 years developing that colorful "canvas" look >>
There's the problem, though... peace dollars weren't rinsed like Morgans, and didn't spend nearly as much time in a mint bag (it would have been taken out 6 years ago to have been in a bag 75 years) so they just don't tone like morgans.
That coin's AT, albeit pretty.
Jeremy
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Because it is not natural.
But, I have never seen a Peace $ with such complete textile toning and rainbow to match. For the most part I agree with the observations as to why the reverse isn't brillant but appears more golden. If it truly was bag/textile toned, the reverse should be brillant white. Further, while I'm not by any means an expert on bag toning -- why do the rims appear to be more album toned than bag toned. If the entire surface of this sat against the cotton of a mint bag, why would the toning seem to be creeping onto the coin from the rims?
To my eye, it appears that the coin might have been originally NT, but the textile and some of the toning has been enhanced through AT means. Not quite a dead bang BB, but it will set off some alarms at either NGC or PCGS.
I would love for it to be truly NT, so either I can offer you a large sum of money to end my quest, or at least to know my holy grail exists.
TPN
Wow!
Very interesting, and an excellent job! Someone must have one of those atmospheric chambers
The textile dots just don't look quite right , a little too "perfect" and not quite the right spacing, unless
entirely different bags were used with Peace dollars. Check out Paragon Numismatic's site and
compare this one with the textiles in his archive. I have seen, however, a couple of Morgans with
larger and further apart dots, but in a much smaller area as if the material had been streatched apart
from the weight of the coins.
Also, the way the lettering is "colored", particularly on "IN GOD" is suspect. The raised letters typically
will tone differently, usually darker, than the color "underneath" and between.
I should also say that the above statements, relative to toned SAEs, does not always apply, as I have
seen numerous toned SAEs, my icon in particular, that don't conform to the "normal" toning criterion
for 90% silver coinage.
I would love to see that one in person
rainbowroosie April 1, 2003
<< <i>Looks like someone held a piece of burlap against the coin and revved up the acetylene torch. >>
Ahhhh, the torch would scorch the burlap and leave tell-tale charcoal residue on the surfaces
Naw, I'd guess a "waffle" iron - about 350 degrees F oughta do it
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Newmismatist
<< <i>Could you post a picture of the reverse side of that 78-S Morgan? >>
I can since I own that one
If that toning were on a Morgan, there would likely be less suspicion that it is AT.
<< <i>it is very disturbing that the coin doctors are that good. >>
That's not a good example of "good." There are literally hundreds of better AT jobs out there that fool the services all the time. And many of those coins are accepted as NT since they are in top tier slabs. Many of those same coins are collected and are discussed on a daily basis on this forum as well.
That's what I find MORE disturbing.
TPN
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