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Why don't you sell ALL your coins?

topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭
And buy just ONE with the money?

Serious question. I'd like to know some different views on "quantity vs. quality."

I know several collectors have collections that would buy one real rarity.

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  • One egg in One basket..........NOT
    Building 33-47 Mint Sets always looking for MS67s PM with any coins you might have for sale.

    Mike
    idocoins
  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
    One coin doesn't make much of a collection.

    New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.

  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just might if I knew the rarity would maintain its value. This could be a logical thing to do if you wanted to get out of the coin market before the next "crash" while maintaining your capital. At one point I was considering an MS65 1876-cc 20 cent piece but got cold feet at the last minute.

    roadrunner
    Barbarous Relic No More, LSCC -GoldSeek--shadow stats--SafeHaven--321gold
  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    At one time, I sold all my business strike Morgans and started buying proof Morgans...
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • How many proofs do you have madmarty?

    Cameron Kiefer
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,164 ✭✭✭✭✭
    IMO, financially that might be a smart move. The bigger the rarity, the more likely that overseas or diversified American buyers would be interested in it. Since we're gonna have a weakening dollar over the forseeable future, the rarities will tend to maintain their value better in foreign currency [ie: go up the most in dollars].

    But it might not be a very interesting collection.
  • LanLordLanLord Posts: 11,722 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have actually thought about it several times.

    However, some of the coins I have hold more than just monitary value to me, they were left to me by my father.

    I'd have difficulty parting with those, the ones I have bought myself, I could easliy sell and buy one (or a couple) big coins.
  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭
    """""Why don't you sell ALL your coins?""""""""""


    Why not jump out in front of moving traffic?

    Would be about the same thing!


    Tomimage
  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Oh come on. I didn't MEAN the one you got from Sister Teresa on her deathbed.

    PURCHASED coins....

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  • I keep trying to sell all my coins... problem is, I buy more faster than I can sell them image
  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭
    TDN......Whadday mean "not interesting?"

    Gotta think about it. You go to the coin show (shop, club, dealer) with your 1913 Lib nickel and say modestly, "Hi, I collect old nickels."

    Man.....that has GOT to prove "interesting."

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  • As far as "quantity vs. quality," I derive a lot of pleasure from buying a coin or two every month. To do this, they need to be inexpensive coins. One very expensive coin would not be as much fun for me. I love those Heritage Exclusively Internet auctions! Something to look forward to every Tuesday night...

    Dan
  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭
    Just in terms of collecting, to me there's a happy medium between quality and quantity.

    If I had $100,000 to spend on coins, in general I'd rather have 100 $1,000 coins than one $100,000 coin or 10,000 $10 coins.
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just in terms of collecting, to me there's a happy medium between quality and quantity.

    If I had $100,000 to spend on coins, in general I'd rather have 100 $1,000 coins than one $100,000 coin or 10,000 $10 coins.

    well said. I like having a meaningful collection of different coins, not one big coin.

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,702 ✭✭✭✭✭
    With my collections I want just one of everything. In many cases either there
    are no true rarities or acquiring them involves perseverence much more than
    cash. Rare moderns will be acquired when the resources are available, but I'll
    still want one of everything.
    Tempus fugit.
  • ColonialCoinUnionColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭
    I agree to a point -

    I definately susbscribe to the 'sell a bunch of cheap coins and own a much smaller number of expensive coins' theory and I have done that over the years.

    The next jump of dumping them all (every last one of them) and buying 1 single piece does interest me. Practically speaking, however, its not that easy. For me, today, that would mean marketing everything I own and, over a period of perhaps 6 months, realizing the cash and then finding that one right coin to buy with it.

    Now, if someone offered to trade 1 single monumemtal rarity for my entire collection I'd strongly consider it, as that would take the time and effort to sell my coins out of the equation.


  • MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777
    Putting together a collection piece by piece is a very satisfying experience. I also think there has to be a balance between quantity and quality...
    My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable !
  • haletjhaletj Posts: 2,192
    I am having this debate right now. I'm thinking of selling a whole bunch of Lincolns from my set to buy a gem 14-d coming to the market soon. I'd have a month to try to raise the money. Problem is I might lose money if I sell to a dealer, and I may not be able to find enough collectors to sell them to in time to get the 14-d. Also not sure if I need a gem 14-d to have my set the way I want it. (A 26-s would be a better date to put a huge amount of money into I think.)
  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    I can only take so many pics of one coin. But I am trying to pare down my collection.
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  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    I constantly prune my collection ,so it stays around 60 coins, but I do like variety in types

    and in colors.
    There once was a place called
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  • LincolnCentManLincolnCentMan Posts: 5,347 ✭✭✭✭
    Yah, but why would I want the finest known 1804 dollar? Ok, maybe not.

    I've thought about this prospect mulitpal times. Here's the reasons I've come up with:

    1) Once you get to a certain level, the hobby has an investment side. I tend to think that the money is safer if diversified.

    2) In the event that I need some money... say 20% of my collection's value, I can cash out part of my collection if I have multipal coins. If I have one, I'll have to cash it all out.

    3) I want to have something to look at.

    4) 50% of the fun is in the collecting. The other 50% is in the havingl. I wouldnt want to kill half my fun.

    5) Completing a set gives you a super since of gratification.

    David
  • I prefer few quality coins than a lot of lot of lower grade ones.
  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,438 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd never be able to settle on just one....interesting concept, though.
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose, Cardinal.
  • Dog97Dog97 Posts: 7,874 ✭✭✭
    <<<...And buy just ONE with the money?>>>
    Cause those Whitmans have so many dam holes in them.
    Change that we can believe in is that change which is 90% silver.
  • HadleydogHadleydog Posts: 1,588 ✭✭✭
    One coin would not a collection make.
    My own collection is down to only 14 coins from about 30 pieces 4 years ago, I am now a staunch believer in quality over quantity. I would like to eventually even out at around 20 pieces, and it is going to take me a few years to get there!
  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭
    OK. I want the ENTIRE series of US gold coins that are identified as being from the California gold rush.

    WHY.....didn't I buy an 1848 "CAL" back when?


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  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I want to enjoy looking at all the different types & designs that came through the years. For me investment comes 2nd.

    Great transactions with oih82w8, JasonGaming, Moose1913.

  • TrimeTrime Posts: 1,863 ✭✭✭
    Very serious question for an investor/collector decision.
    It does not have to be all for one (in my case) but the principle is clear. For the investor, quality collectables (rarity and condition) will usually increase more steeply than lots of ordinary. This not always the case however and liquidity may be better in broadly affordable price range. It really depends where you are in the value cycle.
    For me I am a collector and I just accumulate "stuff"
    Trime
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,189 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You know if EVERYONE subscribed to that belief you would have about 100 collectors with one coin each and little to no market for the rest of them. Coin collecting would be all but dead.
    theknowitalltroll;
  • because 1 coin is not considered a hoard image

    I like "hoard"


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  • IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭
    Sounds like about as much fun as marrying the first gal you got to know. She better be the answer for a long time. Think of all the fun you missed out on. Seriously collecting to me is finding interesting coins much like dating was.


  • << <i>Sounds like about as much fun as marrying the first gal you got to know. >>



    But she might be the one for you and you may not have a chance later down the road!

    Cameron Kiefer
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    hey topstuf

    very good proposition, but i think some misunderstand.

    i don't think everyone has really thought the question through. it's not like if we each sold all we had----minus those sentimental coins----that we couldn't buy more. just imagine the value of your present collection wrapped up in one super-coin that would appreciate better than the whole collection. then keep buying after that just like you're buying now.

    to use dan1ecu as an example, after a year he'd have the super-coin and 12-24 additional coins. wouldn't that constitute a collection??

    al h.image
  • I 've never sold a coin, so I really wouldn't know how. LOL

    Seriously though, I don't enjoy my expensive pieces any more than I do my <$10 ones.
    My coins' values aren't why I collect them.
    Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery?
    Forbid it, Almighty God!
    I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!
    ~PATRICK HENRY~
  • It's like having one wife. Take it from there.

  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Actually, I suppose it's sorta what I did when I first got serious (yeah...once in a while) about coins. I used to buy a $20 gold piece every time I scrounged up 60 bucks. Then I would go to shows and trade a handful of those for a bust five or something. Then I would trade the rare coin for more $20's an so on an so on.....etc.

    Such are the machinations of a geek with no money.

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  • UncleJoeUncleJoe Posts: 2,551 ✭✭✭
  • UncleJoeUncleJoe Posts: 2,551 ✭✭✭
    NO.

    My collecting isn't about the best financial move or the best bragging rights etc.

    It is a hobby. I enjoy the buying and selling of coins without worrying whether or not I made the last dollar or have the best coin.

    Joe.
  • RedneckHBRedneckHB Posts: 19,470 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Just in terms of collecting, to me there's a happy medium between quality and quantity.

    If I had $100,000 to spend on coins, in general I'd rather have 100 $1,000 coins than one $100,000 coin or 10,000 $10 coins.

    well said. I like having a meaningful collection of different coins, not one big coin. >>



    I would rather have 10 $10,000 coins.
    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭


    << <i>One coin doesn't make much of a collection. >>

    Ditto
  • EvilMCTEvilMCT Posts: 799 ✭✭✭
    Because I'm a collector not an investor. I've not sold a single coin from my collection. A lot of my coins have value to me far beyond their market value. And, as has been said before, a single coin isn't much of a collection.

    Ken
    my knuckles, they bleed, on your front door
  • I sold all of my coins to buy a house that rules. I live in my house, I don't live in a single rarity.

    I've switched over to gold coins. They aren't horribly expensive, they have bullion value backing them up and if the world economy goes belly up they might even prove to be a decent investment. For now it's just a fun diversion from the types of coins I've collected for many years.

    Oh yeah, if I could own the Childs 1804 Silver Dollar, I would in a second. That is probably the single most beautiful coin in existence. Even if I had to sell a collection I've been working on for 50 years to get it, I would.
  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭
    OCPG......Have you checked the house for repairs or repainting?

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