Table manors Poll? Did I do the right thing?
tsacch
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I attended the trenton show today.......sorry I missed you Barry, I was really in and out at 9:30 to about 10:15, caugth up with a buddy from Kindergarten and we had a few hours of chat and lunch......anyhow, decent show, small but decent. Dealers not overly friendly, few were friendly and greeted me .....the coins were numerous, very few very nice, lots of nice and lots of so so....but i didnt dig and ask for very very nice coins.......budget.....
So, I sell a coin for $300, hoping to get $150.....I full well advertise its scratched, show the dealer the Redlabel PCI tomb, he shows his friend, we talk, he offers, I take. money changes hand and its in my pocket, I shop his stuff and two minutes pass....he look at the coin again and says, "wait i changed my mind".
I am about to walk away and I stop and we strike a deal for $175.....I am happy, walk and we shake and I leave.
Whats your alternate story...........and be honest.
So, I sell a coin for $300, hoping to get $150.....I full well advertise its scratched, show the dealer the Redlabel PCI tomb, he shows his friend, we talk, he offers, I take. money changes hand and its in my pocket, I shop his stuff and two minutes pass....he look at the coin again and says, "wait i changed my mind".
I am about to walk away and I stop and we strike a deal for $175.....I am happy, walk and we shake and I leave.
Whats your alternate story...........and be honest.
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David
Jerry
<< <i>I sell a very nice, but scratched and PCI red label graded coin. >>
I'm not so sure this statement computes. If a red labeled (cleaned), scratched coin qualifies as "very nice" then what does it take for a coin to be considered "crap"?
I think he took advantage of you. He purchased the coin sight seen. A deal is a deal.
<< <i>Based upon the facts, as presented, the dealer acted unprofessionally and the seller was not obligated in any way to void the original transaction. >>
Mark will you quit bashing the dealers
Mike
Tough S**T !
Buy from a dealer and walk back 2 minutes later and see what happens !
The dealer made a professional decision to buy the coin. Changing his mind and wanting to back out was VERY unprofessional.
not likely
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<< <i>I sell a very nice, but scratched and PCI red label graded coin. >>
I'm not so sure this statement computes. If a red labeled (cleaned), scratched coin qualifies as "very nice" then what does it take for a coin to be considered "crap"?
I think he took advantage of you. He purchased the coin sight seen. A deal is a deal. >>
Red label doesn't necessarily mean cleaned. PCI uses it for a coin damaged in any manner. To the original question - I agree with what seems to be the consensus, it was a done deal. You were too kind, and the other person was somewhat irresponsible.
Have a Great Day!
Louis
<< <i>You were asking $300 and willing to take $175, Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm! >>
Louis, if I understand the scenario correctly, it sounds as if he was willing to take $175 (or less) but was OFFERED $300 by the dealer.
You did the friendly thing but maybe not the right thing.
He owes you one. At the next show find something you like and collect
A deal's a deal in my eyes. I'll tell you my story. I went to the Pittsburgh ANA. Unfortunately I forgot to bring price guides that I always
go armed with. I wound up at a dealer's table that I have met before (but never bought from), he's a forum member, and I saw a coin I
liked. We enjoyed chatting for awhile and I thought this would be a no-brainer matter of trust. I buy a coin.
I get home & check several price guides. I paid $1,700 for a coin that according to the most generous price guide is worth $800. There was
nothing special about it like exceptional toning, etc. I just got screwed because I wasn't prepared.
As far as the deal? I'll see this guy again at some point. But I won't say a word. He's a scumbag but I agreed to his outrageous price and
a deal's a deal. I figure I could go back & scream at him and maybe I'd get my money back but that would probably make me look more
stupid than I already am.
You should've told the dealer that you were sorry he changed his mind but you were not refunding anything and left. Just like me in my
incident- It was up to him to be prepared to make the deal.
Great transactions with oih82w8, JasonGaming, Moose1913.
He doesnt owe me one. The way I figure it is that I did my good deed in an unselfish manner........I am a healer........a therapist...thats what I do for a living to make $$$$, I help people walk, and live after life threatening events, such as strokes and accidents.............yes i could have used more $$$, but there is this book I read about do unto others.........as they would do unto you....................
makes sense i guess, but I am changing it a bit......do unto others, even if they do it to you first....you dont have to do it back.
Tom
ps. A gestrure on his part afterward, such as a "thank you".......... or "heres a 1881-S Morgan in PCGS 62 for you kindness" would have been appropriate on his behalf, but I only accept whats offered to me, never expect kindness in return.
I'm ramblin.
Done deal.
Go to the supermarket and buy some steaks for 6.99 a pound,take m back 5 minutes later and tell em you only wanna pay 3.99 !
<< <i>man, i am a sap. >>
Not much you can do about it now. Use it as a learning lesson. But again, you were happy and he was happy. So what does it matter what we think?
Pro's don't get 2nd chances when it comes to the public. If 2 pros want to argue about a shady coin that's different.
roadrunner
I could sympathize with the guy if he bought the coin from you sight unseen (as only a very naive person would buy a coin sight unseen without a return privilege). But he saw the coin & offered $300. He's a dealer, not someone who hasn't quite 'graduated' from state quarters.
The only time I would cut a guy like this some slack was if I had an ongoing relationship with him and wanted it to continue. OTOH, if it was just someone I saw at a show & did business with him for the first time, etc., as we used to say in Jr. High School, "you lose, Buckwheat!"
"Seu cabra da peste,
"Sou Mangueira......."
Where is the next choice? Don't get angry, be nice, but tell him a deal is a deal?
Why step over the dollar to get to the cent? Because it's a 55DDO.
It was a done deal
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<< <i>Where is the next choice? Don't get angry, be nice, but tell him a deal is a deal? >>
Uhmm, thats a good suggestion and a potentially the best ending to it all.
I know i cant change what happened, but it sucks to suffer financially from kindness.
oh yeah, it also lowers my feelings of vendors/dealers just another notch.....I have just came across so few who will take their time and are genuinely nice.....except for on this forum, where there have been a few real standout people........thanks,
tom
<< <i> but there is this book I read about do unto others.........as they would do unto you.. >>
Hey, what book is that? I know one that says something that sounds something like that but means the complete opposite. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. (Yours says, to paraphase "They would screw me so it's Ok for me to screw them too.")