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Holy Mother!! $611 and counting for a raw 81-S!! Wow!! Closed at $1,475!! Coin #2 sold for $610!!

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  • coynclectercoynclecter Posts: 2,111
    HIGH bidder with ZERO feedback?????????
  • my3centsmy3cents Posts: 1,411
    shill, shill, shill

    My Auctions
  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295 ✭
    Hmmm... that looks like the ex-Anaconda ex-TBT coin. Very interesting indeed.
  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295 ✭
    And for the record, it's still AT in my book.
  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295 ✭
    And remember folks, it isn't in a holder for a reason.
  • TonekillerTonekiller Posts: 1,308 ✭✭
    Hmmmm, nope....guess again.


    So, all knowing Eric, what's wrong with this coin. TRY to use facts instead of your personal opinion......given your 27 years of experience. I am curious.

  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Pass the popcorn please. image

    Russ, NCNE
    eBay consignment sales | | Collectibles from Resco CCC
  • tsacchtsacch Posts: 2,929 ✭✭✭
    ouch
    Family, kids, coins, sports (playing not watching), jet skiing, wakeboarding, Big Air....no one ever got hurt in the air....its the sudden stop that hurts. I hate Hurricane Sandy. I hate FEMA and i hate the blasted insurance companies.
  • idocoinsidocoins Posts: 633
    Hey Russ, put some butter on it will ya.......where is that pop corn guy when ya need him image
    Building 33-47 Mint Sets always looking for MS67s PM with any coins you might have for sale.

    Mike
    idocoins
  • jbstevenjbsteven Posts: 6,178 ✭
    image
  • Coinhusker1Coinhusker1 Posts: 3,560 ✭


    << <i>Hmmm... that looks like the ex-Anaconda ex-TBT coin. Very interesting indeed. >>



    Does not look like it will bring $7,500 though.

    Edited to add: It is probably a different coin, but looks similar.
  • jbstevenjbsteven Posts: 6,178 ✭
    image
  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295 ✭


    << <i>Hmmmm, nope....guess again.


    So, all knowing Eric, what's wrong with this coin. TRY to use facts instead of your personal opinion......given your 27 years of experience. I am curious. >>



    Real easy Bryan, there isn't a bit of gold/orange/brown that would be on a coin that was NT. This is a well done AT coin, but they forgot to add the gold/orange/brown that is present on any NT coin. Of course, if you had any real experience with toned Morgans you would know that, but as we all know you started out by selling obviously AT'ed ACG garbage.
  • ldhairldhair Posts: 7,232 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Some of the folks that bid might have some thoughts to share as wellimage
    Larry

  • jbstevenjbsteven Posts: 6,178 ✭
    looks kinda like this one

    image
  • jbstevenjbsteven Posts: 6,178 ✭
    personally I think the auction coin is NT. look at the colors I posted above and the colors on the auction coin.
  • OuthaulOuthaul Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image

    Man...THIS is gonna get interesting...
  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295 ✭


    << <i>personally I think the auction coin is NT. look at the colors I posted above and the colors on the auction coin. >>



    If that is your opinion on the coin in the auction, then quite frankly, you don't know jack squat when it comes to AT vs. NT Morgans.
  • TonekillerTonekiller Posts: 1,308 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Hmmmm, nope....guess again.


    So, all knowing Eric, what's wrong with this coin. TRY to use facts instead of your personal opinion......given your 27 years of experience. I am curious. >>



    Real easy Bryan, there isn't a bit of gold/orange/brown that would be on a coin that was NT. This is a well done AT coin, but they forgot to add the gold/orange/brown that is present on any NT coin. Of course, if you had any real experience with toned Morgans you would know that, but as we all know you started out by selling obviously AT'ed ACG garbage. >>




    So, is that your final say? Just wanted to make sure the quote stayed on the thread. Shame that the coin has a possible shill bidder as I would love to see a TGP's take on the coin. Shame that I have sold several with the same pattern and colors in current TPG slabs plus seen at least 6 others belonging to "esteemed" toner collectors on this board. Maybe they will feel emboldened to comment on their coins vs. this one.

    With the fact that your deep south, trailer trash upbringing has only allowed you to buy / sell marginal toners (based off of your many educational crescent / b color coin post), my opinion is that you have little or no experience with truly rare monster toned coins.......if you had you would have posted them as your ego and great knowledge base would have demanded it.
  • TonekillerTonekiller Posts: 1,308 ✭✭
    With my limited knowledge and the fact that I am just a wannabe dealer of artificially toned, environmentally damaged coins.......I would like to say for the record.....that my honest opinion......is that this coin is..........NATURALLY TONED.





    sorry for yelling. image
  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Hmmmm, nope....guess again.


    So, all knowing Eric, what's wrong with this coin. TRY to use facts instead of your personal opinion......given your 27 years of experience. I am curious. >>



    Real easy Bryan, there isn't a bit of gold/orange/brown that would be on a coin that was NT. This is a well done AT coin, but they forgot to add the gold/orange/brown that is present on any NT coin. Of course, if you had any real experience with toned Morgans you would know that, but as we all know you started out by selling obviously AT'ed ACG garbage. >>




    So, is that your final say? Just wanted to make sure the quote stayed on the thread. Shame that the coin has a possible shill bidder as I would love to see a TGP's take on the coin. Shame that I have sold several with the same pattern and colors in current TPG slabs plus seen at least 6 others belonging to "esteemed" toner collectors on this board. Maybe they will feel emboldened to comment on their coins vs. this one.

    With the fact that your deep south, trailer trash upbringing has only allowed you to buy / sell marginal toners (based off of your many educational crescent / b color coin post), my opinion is that you have little or no experience with truly rare monster toned coins.......if you had you would have posted them as your ego and great knowledge base would have demanded it. >>



    What a riot. I have never said my toned Morgans where high end.. as a matter of fact my specialty has been lower dollar toned coins.. those that don't cost more than double bid in most cases.

    What's with this "deep south trailer trash" bullsh!t? Last time I looked you were in Texas, and that's in the south. And I don't live in a tralier.
  • jbstevenjbsteven Posts: 6,178 ✭


    << <i>If that is your opinion on the coin in the auction, then quite frankly, you don't know jack squat when it comes to AT vs. NT Morgans. >>



    just YOUR opinion Eric.
  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>If that is your opinion on the coin in the auction, then quite frankly, you don't know jack squat when it comes to AT vs. NT Morgans. >>



    just YOUR opinion Eric. >>



    So tell me JB, how many years experience do you have in handling toned Morgans?
  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well that got expensive for a ungraded coin.
    My Current project....https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/mysetregistry/album/160794
  • jbstevenjbsteven Posts: 6,178 ✭
    stop it Eric. I am not fighting you anymore ever. it is not worth my time. please just leave me alone.
  • ChuckCChuckC Posts: 1,600
    1500!!!!
  • TonekillerTonekiller Posts: 1,308 ✭✭
    Looks like another board member bought the coin.....out bid my $1200.


    If the new owner will allow the coin to be tracked on this thread I will pay for the cert cost of sending it to NGC.


    Advise?


    Bryan
  • BigMooseBigMoose Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭
    Well, I just pushed the winning bidder to $1475.00, so I guess you know how I feel about the coin. If you have ever seen some of GSAGuy's green toners, you would know this coin is NT.
    TomT-1794

    Check out some of my 1794 Large Cents on www.coingallery.org
  • fountainheadgoldfountainheadgold Posts: 2,467 ✭
    Hi Bryan, thats fine with me

    image
    Michael
  • NewmismatistNewmismatist Posts: 1,802 ✭✭
    Well, I know that several of our forum members thought it was real - and it sold for $1475
    Collecting eye-appealing Proof and MS Indian Head Cents, 1858 Flying Eagle and IHC patterns and beautiful toned coins.

    “It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.” Mark Twain
    Newmismatist
  • ldhairldhair Posts: 7,232 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If that is your opinion on the coin in the auction, then quite frankly, you don't know jack squat when it comes to AT vs. NT Morgans. >>


    Such a nice friendly way to start off a thread.
    Nothing like an insult to win folks over to your way of thinking. image
    Larry

  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295 ✭


    << <i>Well, I know that several of our forum members thought it was real - and it sold for $1475 >>



    Hey Ron, are we going to hear back from them when this AT'ed POS comes back as questionable toning?
  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>If that is your opinion on the coin in the auction, then quite frankly, you don't know jack squat when it comes to AT vs. NT Morgans. >>


    Such a nice friendly way to start off a thread.
    Nothing like an insult to win folks over to your way of thinking. image >>



    Perhaps if you saw the PMs from these clowns you would have a different point of view.
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Well, I know that several of our forum members thought it was real - and it sold for $1475 >>



    Hey! That's what the Flea Market Morgan sold for. Must be some mystical forces at play. image

    Russ, NCNE
    eBay consignment sales | | Collectibles from Resco CCC
  • jbstevenjbsteven Posts: 6,178 ✭
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    post them Eric. If you are referring to mine you have my permission to post them.

    BTW there is no reason for name calling, please.
  • eagle7eagle7 Posts: 1,441
    Hmm, I wonder if the other raw toner he has for auction will sell. He says the reserve is high. And I am like some of the others here, I wonder what the grade for this one which sold for 1475 will be from NGC, I gather that is where it is going. As to AT or NT, I havent an opinion on that. To be honest with you I really dont know, and dont really care, since I am not the one who bought it. image
    In an insane society, a sane person will appear to be insane.
  • braddickbraddick Posts: 23,963 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I posted my opinion on this coin earlier in the week...

    peacockcoins

  • rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭✭
    Wow, nice string...sorry I am late....I love the coin....I see absolutely nothing that indicates this is not NT.image

    Fabulous green color!!!
    "You keep your 1804 dollar and 1822 half eagle -- give me rainbow roosies in MS68."
    rainbowroosie April 1, 2003
  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295 ✭


    << <i>Wow, nice string...sorry I am late....I love the coin....I see absolutely nothing that indicates this is not NT.image

    Fabulous green color!!! >>



    Then you don't know squat about NT coins either. Holy moly, there are a lot of suckers around!
  • NewmismatistNewmismatist Posts: 1,802 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Well, I know that several of our forum members thought it was real - and it sold for $1475 >>



    Hey Ron, are we going to hear back from them when this AT'ed POS comes back as questionable toning? >>



    Eric, that coin is neither AT, nor a POS, it is a very nice toned Morgan, that textiling that's on that coin cannot be duplicated, and IMHO it's the real deal - if Fountinheadgold wants to send it to me for a small profit when he takes possesion of that coin, I would be delighted.
    Collecting eye-appealing Proof and MS Indian Head Cents, 1858 Flying Eagle and IHC patterns and beautiful toned coins.

    “It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.” Mark Twain
    Newmismatist
  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295 ✭
    Ron, you have been totally bamboozled if you think that coin is NT. It is 100% AT, and now that I understand where you are coming from, it's no surprise to me.
  • TonekillerTonekiller Posts: 1,308 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Wow, nice string...sorry I am late....I love the coin....I see absolutely nothing that indicates this is not NT.image

    Fabulous green color!!! >>



    Then you don't know squat about NT coins either. Holy moly, there are a lot of suckers around! >>




    Well Eric, I see that you have again used your refined personal skills to attack yet another collector / dealer.

    Its my opinion that if someone does not agree with you....its ok to just bash them, tear down their hobby, attack their knowledge, sick the mob on them, make MANY statements of innuendo without facts......getting kinda old. IMHO. image

    BTW, you have the right to state your opinions but you do not have the right to attack without merit. Where's your southern honor? Pride? Manners? (my guess is you never learned them)


    Just another sucker. image
  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295 ✭
    Hey Bryan, when are you going to come clean on that AT'ed 81-S you sold to Adrian Crane? Come on, you don't know NT from a hole in the ground.
  • rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭✭
    "Then you don't know squat about NT coins either. Holy moly, there are a lot of suckers around!"

    Gee, I seem to do alright with the grading services?? Maybe, they don't know squat either? ....I've seen at least 5 coins with that exact look in PCGS holders. I even bought one from COINGAME 2000...Greattoning sold one for $5000....Yep, we are all wrong.... Sorry to have commented.....At work I have a motto --- when EVERYONE says you are wrong, it's time to rethink your position...image
    "You keep your 1804 dollar and 1822 half eagle -- give me rainbow roosies in MS68."
    rainbowroosie April 1, 2003
  • BigMooseBigMoose Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭
    Eric, I will bet you $1000.00 that the 1881-S that is the subject of this thread will slab on the First Try at either PCGS or NGC. TomT.
    TomT-1794

    Check out some of my 1794 Large Cents on www.coingallery.org
  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    Send it to PCGS and we can put it on the web tracking page!!!image
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • kyleknapkyleknap Posts: 980
    I'm cheap; however, the coin is real. If at anytime in the future the buyer would like out of this coin at $1,000, all he or she has to do is PM me with a paypal address.

    (Of course, I really don't see this happening, considering there (a) is a return policy, and (b) any true collector or dealer of beautifully bag-toned dollars with pockets deeper than mine would make a stronger offer.)

    Kyle
  • TonekillerTonekiller Posts: 1,308 ✭✭


    << <i>Hey Bryan, when are you going to come clean on that AT'ed 81-S you sold to Adrian Crane? Come on, you don't know NT from a hole in the ground. >>



    Already came clean on that coin Eric....BTW the FULL buyback was turned down.....but then you already knew the whole story....right...wink...wink!

    As you should in those threads and this one, you have little facts to back up your rumor mongering and when backed into a corner or "GASP" someone disagrees with you...you bash them.


    Hey Eric, what do you think the reading of your personal deposition in the ACG lawsuit is going to be like when its available to the public?
  • braddickbraddick Posts: 23,963 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Eric, when it comes to Morgans, you're right about 99.5% of the time. For example, when you schooled me regarding that ANACS 1894 in XF40- it being a VF30 at best... you were convincing in your presentation and argument (with the side-by-side photos of my ANACS coin and yours).

    When it comes to this colorful, authentic toned Morgan though... this is the .05% of the time that you're incorrect.

    peacockcoins

  • morgannut2morgannut2 Posts: 4,293 ✭
    The coin meets all diagnostic criteria for a NT Morgan at least by the picture. Its astonishing to me that anyone could spend this sum of money on a Morgan they have not examined closely in person. I have an Morgan I bought from Texas Bullion Traders at Balt. ANA that is just as attractive and is a whole lot more coin for the money at the $70 I paid!! Plus I got to see it in person so I know for sure its NT and not enhanced.
    morgannut2

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