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ripped(rip't) v. 1. To have bought a good coin for waaaaaaay below fair market value.
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    This one:

    PCGS PR68DCAM Accented Hair, pop 8/0
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    Pulled from these sets grabbed on eBay:

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    Cost basis, including grading fee, $75. Market value - a hell of a lot more. image

    Russ, NCNE
  • NumismanicNumismanic Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭
    PCGS 67rd 1949-s Lincoln cent for $60 from a local dealer. Thats what he marked on the back of the coin. I asked him if he was sure about that and he said yes. I had another dealer offer me $220 for it! image
  • #1.... Late night Ebay......... BIN............ Statue of Liberty $5 Gold Proof........ $50 + shipping !!!!

    #2.... 1873 half dollar........ no arrows.......... Only a VG........ Paid VF money........ Like $60........ Let the dealer think he was rippin me.......... BTW......... It's an OPEN 3 !!!!!!! A 3K SCORE !!!!!!!!!
    Cam-Slam 2-6-04
    3 "DAMMIT BOYS"
    4 "YOU SUCKS"
    Numerous POTD (But NONE officially recognized)
    Seated Halves are my specialty !
    Seated Half set by date/mm COMPLETE !
    Seated Half set by WB# - 289 down / 31 to go !!!!!
    (1) "Smoebody smack him" from CornCobWipe !
    IN MEMORY OF THE CUOF image
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Or, how about these two:

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    Cost basis, including grading fee, about $18 each. Sold one for $750, the other for $860.

    Russ, NCNE
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Or, this one:

    PCGS PR68CAM Accented Hair, pop 34/0
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    Pulled from a $10 set. Market value, north of $700.

    Russ, NCNE
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,660 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    There are currently 2 known examples of this variety in any condition.

    Paid less than $300. Worth more than $20,000 image

    "The Story"

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Or, this one:

    PCGS MS65
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    Bought raw at a flea market for less than $100. Sold for $1475.

    Russ, NCNE
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Well, Baley just blew us all away. image

    Russ, NCNE
  • I got a 1999 proof set for like 40 bucks. The bad thing about my purchase is the nickel is scratched up but everything else is fine... so you do get what you pay for, i learned that the hard way, and never buy unless their is a picture. But thats what happens when you see a great deal on something you really want i guess lol.
    Just cause someone pee'd in your Cheerios don't pee in mine.

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  • islemanguislemangu Posts: 1,378 ✭✭✭
    PCGS MS65

    I believe you are mistaken thereimage
    YCCTidewater.com
  • ARCOARCO Posts: 4,396 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am the dude that those who found the rips, have sold their coins to!

    Nothing big for me. Have bought lots of coins for a $100-$200 gain. Maybe thirty or so. I bought an XF40 1904-S for $450.00 and it would probably sell for $1200-1500 if holdered. I have bought a few coins in the $10-$15.00 range and sold it for up to ten times multiples. Not a lot of money, but way cool as a percentage.

    Snoozers really, nothing dramatic and totally envious like Baley's Draped Bust half or Cratylus's (1898-o micro Barber half)

    Tyler
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>PCGS MS65

    I believe you are mistaken there >>



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    Russ, NCNE
  • orevilleoreville Posts: 11,961 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The year was 1970. I bought an EF 1893 silver dollar from a dealer in Brooklyn, NY. The cost was minimal, I forget what it was.

    When I got home, I discovered it was really an 1893-S.

    The usual devil versus the saint danced in my mind. The following Saturday, I went back to the dealer and gave him back the 1893-S.

    He was so pleased with me that he gave me 3 rolls of very nice uncirculated silver dollars 1878-S, and two other common dates as well as a Gem BU 1885-S plus gave me my money back. He also gave me a BU 1927 Vermont Commem. I wanted to refuse all these goodies but the dealer's partner wanted everyone in the store to see the good deed I had done and how they were appreciative.

    So I ended up with the above coins, all for free.

    Would I do it again? You betcha. I just hope no one ever does it to me.

    A heck of a day for a 17 year old!
    A Collectors Universe poster since 1997!
  • rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭✭
    Years ago at Long Beach I saw two superb rainbow roosies in a dealer's case. I asked how much? He said $30 each. I looked and one was the best roosie I've ever seen. Amazing rainbow color and "PERFECT" surfaces. I handed the dealer $30 and he said "That coin is $40!!" I was PO'd beyond belief....I thought about leaving, but common sense prevailed. I paid the $40 and walked away....That 1949P is now in a 68* FT holder pop1 and the best roosie in the world....it is UNDERGRADED in a 68 holder.....poetic justice!!!!image
    "You keep your 1804 dollar and 1822 half eagle -- give me rainbow roosies in MS68."
    rainbowroosie April 1, 2003
  • mirabelamirabela Posts: 5,012 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Kinda like ARCO said -- a fair handful of low-grade rips, good percentage but small potatoes money. My favorite was when I was about ten years old, when ANACS was just starting their certification thing. I bought a nickel 3 center from this weird little dealer who used to sell out of the back office of a drycleaning place in Northfield, VT. He had it marked & priced as XF. It looked like a weakly struck UNC to me. Bought it, sent it off -- came back MS60. No big deal in dollars, but it was big to me as a kid. I sold it the week I graduated from college & came back home too broke to buy a decent pair of shoes to go looking for jobs in.
    mirabela
  • Baley, you really suck, you know that don't you????? But then reading these posts, especially yours Russ, you ALL suck......haha...actually I enjoy these kind of posts. My "rip" is nothing like you all... post more!!! image
    "I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, I won't be laid a hand on; I don't do these things to other people, I require the same from them."
  • BikingnutBikingnut Posts: 3,375 ✭✭✭
    Three raw Jeffersons from yahoo, 2 40D's, and a 41D. About 9.00 for the three, graded PCGS MS65FS, 66FS, and 66FS respectively.
    US Navy CWO3 retired. 12/81-09/04

    Looking for PCGS AU58 Washington's, 32-63.
  • All 5 of my 1999 Wide AM cents, 1-MS64, 1-MS65, 1-MS66 Broadstruck, 1-MS67, and 1 MS67 Broadstruck for $15-30 each
  • GooberGoober Posts: 980 ✭✭✭
    Recently bought a 07-s Barber in MS62 (looked better) for $99
    Prost!

    Why step over the dollar to get to the cent? Because it's a 55DDO.


  • A 1956-P Lincoln in PCGS MS-67RD for $750 off Teletrade. At the time it was about a $4000-5000 coin.
  • Wolf359Wolf359 Posts: 7,656 ✭✭✭
    How about 3 Donkey Tails on eBay ?- $75 total spent...value $2000+ image
  • Wolf359Wolf359 Posts: 7,656 ✭✭✭
    Paid less than $300. Worth more than $20,000

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  • I never get any good rips...image

  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,781 ✭✭✭✭
    At a coin show in Boston I picked up a 1925-S Lincoln for $8 and turned it for $235 shortly thereafter.

    Picked up a 1956-P NGC MS67RD on eBay for $25 and sold it for $270 with Heritage.

    Buyer and seller of vintage coin boards!
  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,149 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Got an AU 1905-S baber for $16 a few years ago... now in my type album

    My XF/AU 1859 IHC set me back $7 (well, my mom bought it for me, but still... image)

    Jeremy
    JK Coin Photography - eBay Consignments | High Quality Photos | LOW Prices | 20% of Consignment Proceeds Go to Pancreatic Cancer Research
  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 6,913 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Actually was one of my first online purchases, back on NOL ... a 57 Flying Eagle ... could see the evidence of clash even from the picture ... a S-8 variety in AU+ ... paid weak AU money ... still have it ... maybe I ought to take it home and get a good picture.

    “We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”

    Todd - BHNC #242
  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,652 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Lessee... my favorite was the Whitman folder full of Lincoln Cents I bought at an auction with a 1922 Plain in it - bought the whole book for $30 and sold the '22 for $150. This was my senior year of college - I used that money to buy an interview suit.

    I once bought a broadstruck 1969 Lincoln Cent from a fixed price list for $6 and sold it on eBay for $227.50. I cherried a 1941 DDO#2 from a local bid board in a group of UNC cents for $1.50; ANACS called it MS64RB, and I wound up selling it to Kevin Flynn for $250, who then pictured the coin in his Authoritative Guide on Lincoln Cents. I bought a partial roll set at an auction for less than $30 and found two 1947 DDO cents in BU, sold them both for $150 each, one of them wound up in Kevin's book too.


    Sean Reynolds
    Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

    "Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
  • itsnotjustmeitsnotjustme Posts: 8,777 ✭✭✭
    Raw Ike Dollar, paid $18 for 11 coins, plus $24 grading fees. Sold an MS67 1976-P T2 for four figures, and kept a darn nice MS66 for my own set.

    1881-S Morgan, PCGS MS66PL. Paid a well established dealer $145.
    Give Blood (Red Bags) & Platelets (Yellow Bags)!


  • To everyone who posted to this thread: YOU SUCK!

    I have not had nearly as many good rips. Some okay ones. I will post them to this thread later.
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  • Wow... you guys rock. I have only been collecting again for about 3 months. My best is I found a Connecticut copper in about G-4 for a buck at a local flea market. He thought it was a british coin and I did not know any better until I got it home. Not a lot of money but it sure made my day.
  • poorguypoorguy Posts: 4,317
    I recieved a 1943 cent in change from a gas station that was copper colored.

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    Yup, it sticks to a magnet. Still pretty cool though.

    I guess it wasn't really a rip after all. Nevermind. image
    Brandon Kelley - ANA - 972.746.9193 - http://www.bestofyesterdaycollectibles.com
  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 13,991 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bought a 1946-P Walker PCGS-66 from a dealer at the Long Beach show a couple of years ago. Talked her down to $600. Took coin over to PCGS booth, paid $10 for variety designation, and got the coin re-holdered as a 1946-P Doubled Die Reverse, pop. 2/0 at the time. Sold it in an auction several months later for $5,000 net to me.

    I dearly love dealers who don't take the time to look at their coins! image
    When in doubt, don't.
  • This coin purchased raw in a set with no envelope for $21
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  • GonfunkoGonfunko Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭
    I don't have a pic, but I got a 1908-S Indian Head Cent From Gillio in the little 50 cent Indians bin a few years ago, and it's been going up a few dollars every year since.
  • ldhairldhair Posts: 7,232 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Went to a small auction years ago. Bought hundreds of toned Franklins in 2x2s stored in vinal pages.
    Some were circ. grades but many were MS-63 to 65. Bought for the price of junk silver.
    Folks just couldn't see past the toning. To date at least 50 have slabed as 65s.
    The only bad thing was I only won about 10% of the lots. image
    Larry

  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    Might as well add mine. A little over a year ago, hit a small coin show and one of the dealers had a nice 61 Franklin in has case. Very nice red toned Frankie.. I asked how much and he says $7, bought that and a few other coins. Came back from PCGS MS66FBL! POP 2/0.. Made me a very happy camper, BTW sold for 5 figures.
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • cupronikcupronik Posts: 773 ✭✭✭
    My best rip to date involved four coins, all $5 Indians. In November
    1992 I entered a coin shop on one of my road trips and, upon
    looking in his main case, noticed four raw $5 Indians resting on a
    felt pad (with some other circulated U.S. gold.) There were 2-1908,
    1-1909-D, and a VF 1915-S. The price tag for each coin was $225.
    I mumbled something like, "I need $5 Indians for my customers" and
    purchased the four coins.


    PCGS graded the 1908 $5's MS-64 & MS-65. The 09-D came back
    MS-63 and the 15-S was a courtesy purchase! The 08 $5's sold
    for $4500 & $12,500 respectively and the 09-D brought $2700.

    I've only "made" one MS-65 $5 Indian at PCGS (or anywhere) in my
    numismatic career.

    By the way, a fellow dealer (and good friend) was traveling with me
    so we actually split the profit but since he had borrowed capital
    previously I simply retired his debt. Needless to say, this deal
    was a boost to my cash flow.

    That was then and the shop has since closed.
  • PistareenPistareen Posts: 1,505 ✭✭✭
    Back when I was a civilian and didn't work for an auction company...

    The fifth known 1787 Connecticut Miller 33.13-gg.2. Third best. Found at an estate auction in rural Pennsylvania. Cost: $1. I sold it in 1993 (the dealer I sold it to was given credit for the "new discovery" when it was published) and it's worth a lot more today.

    Most of my picks have been either rare numismatic books or good colonials. I still haven't paid more than $8 for a Machin's Mills piece.
  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    Closest thing to a rip for me was buying an 1863 indian cent for about $90 and getting it into a 64 slab (about $300 on the market now).
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  • coinlieutenantcoinlieutenant Posts: 9,310 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A gentleman never tells...image
  • pharmerpharmer Posts: 8,355
    A different kind of rip, but all my PCGS 67 Lincoln wheats are from rolls I searched. A roll of gem Lincs that had 49 of a pop 1 early 1940's rpm. A 1943d 1c rpm-1 from a $43 cost roll that is in a PCGS 65 slab. An ANACS-66 1943d 1c rpm-1 ripped on TT for $190. A 1909 VDB for $1 from a local shop that is in a PCGS65RD slab. Best of all, eight different PCGS PR70 DCAM 1c on TT when they first started showing up, all less than $100.image
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."

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  • I paid $260 for this...................1936-S Oregon Commem

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    Anyone care to guess the grade? I am going to send it in soon for grading.

    -Snoodle...
  • I bought a lot of 5 US Philippine half centavos, sight unseen, for $50. Thought I'd do the dealer a favor. Didn't even look at the coins for a few months. When I did, to my surprise, one of the "half centavo's" was a 1914-D penny in what appeared to MS63 or 64. Whew. A two or three thousand dollar coin.

    So the next time I went back to the Philippines I bought a thousand dollars or so of junk I didn't need from him, to even the score. Okay, you with me now? Dig this!

    When I went back to the states maybe a year later, I sent the penny to Jon (Tonelover) at Rare Coins of New Hampshire. He phones me up: "Bad news. 98% probability the 14-D is counterfeit." And so it was.

    So I a-s-o-l-u-t-e-l-y ripped off this beautiful 14-D penny in MS63+ for $10; and ended up getting ripped off for $1,000 smackerooties when I made it up to the dealer. What a bummer, eh?

    But that's part of coin collecting. If you never get ripped off, you ain't taking enough chances.

    From Asia ... I'm still ...

    Just having Fun
    Jefferson nickels, Standing Libs, and US-Philippines rock
  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭
    The best I can come up with was buying five 1999-S silver proof sets at the Mint's issue price. image
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Snoodle,

    That Oregon is beautiful. It looks all of MS67 to me.

    Russ, NCNE
  • Russ,

    Thank you. Hopefully the good people at PCGS agree with your assessment. It's as close to perfection as I have ever seen myself on an Oregon Commem. I was very excited to have had the chance to acquire it.

    -Snoodle...
  • mtnmanmtnman Posts: 571 ✭✭✭
    Some fabulous stories. Now if we did a thread about getting ripped I could tell some stories.
  • Oh man,
    If we did a thread on that topic I'd have to find an alias to use, so my wife wouldn't put me outside in our Dog's house
  • Just a couple of small ones. An 1881-S Morgan I bought in 1985 for $9 and sold a month later to D Hall for 500. A few "big names" offered me 20-30 bucks but Dave add said he'd pay 500 for any MS65 Morgan....and he did.

    Bought a Proof 1964 Kennedy for 12 bucks from a dealer in 1990. It came back PR65DCAM AH. in 2001. I sold it 2 years ago for $600 . I understand it rests ina PF67DCAM holder now. (NCS worked on it)

    A few upgrades too but no major ones.

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