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Yes. PCGS AU58

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  • Why wouldn't they?image
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  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,170 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That scratch could be accented by the lighting--it might be rather light, in which case they would grade it... the just don't like the big ones
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  • rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭✭
    That coin is damaged, should not have been slabbed.
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  • It depends on the coin and the severity of the scratch. Also I think it depends on what day of the week it is, what time of the day it is and whether or not the grader was laid the night before image
  • lavalava Posts: 3,286 ✭✭✭
    My understanding is yes, but the coin could not be mint state.
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  • I had a pcgs ms64 37-s quarter with a large scratch. At least one dealer was flabbergasted that it even got in the holder regarless of even getting ms64.
  • The line looks raised to me...ie. scratch on the die causing a raised line on the coin.

    Cameron Kiefer
  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes they will I have a 1961-D MS64 with a big gouge in George's cheek. This cut is actually standing up inside the holder.


  • << <i>My understanding is yes, but the coin could not be mint state. >>



    I have seen numerous MS coins with scrathes in PCGS holders. The older and rarer the coin is, the more likely PCGS is to accept a bigger, deeper longer scratch. Thats how it looks to me, anyway.
  • They bagged a 1942-S FB merc that I sent in. I had to use a 10X loupe to see the scratch.image
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  • I don't know why they would bag a coin that you need a 10x loupe to see the damage. Doesn't PCGS only use 5x magnification when grading? They may use higher magnification on dimes because they are so small. I know I go all bleary eyed trying to examine dimes. I have some really nice Mercs here that are raw that I couldn't tell you if they were AU58, or MS grade up to 62.
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  • It's hard to say without seeing the coin in person, but the scratch may not be that detracting...
  • I have a (would be) gem seated dime with a scratch that NGC slabbed. They gave it a 63. It would be 65 without the scratch. With the scratch I was thinking it should be bagged. I sent it for review and it was returned as "gem with scratch" meaning NGC was OK with giving a coin like that 63. The coin is very nice but was scratched by a staple so be very careful when removing coins from 2x2s!!!!
  • I think the scratch depends on the coin and severity of the scratch.
    Remember they just recently found out that the coin flips could cause a scratch like that one.
    The coin may have not been scratched when it was examined.
    But got scratched when it was last put back in the flip and or pulled out of the flip for the last time and slabbed.
    Thus it could be scratched after the fact fo to speak.
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  • << <i>Remember they just recently found out that the coin flips could cause a scratch like that one >>



    Not true. They and everyone has known this for a long time but just did a press release on it last week.

    Cameron Kiefer
  • BoomBoom Posts: 10,165
    Man, I REALLY wish you hadn't asked that question! Some time back I submitted a 1932 Washington Quarter that was an easy 65.
    Now, obviously I screen and pre-grade before submitting. This coin was immaculate. When it came back imagine my dismay, when much to my horror it was BB'd for what amounted to a superfical mark on the reverse (not IN to the coin AT ALL). It looked like(for descriptive purposes) someone had used a pencil on it. This coin did not deserve to be BB'd but it was.

    I PURPOSELY have in my posession coins certified as high as PCGS 65 with digs in them so deep that you could pour water in them and ants could drink! I never said much about it at all until right now!

    If we're going to call a spade a spade, let's do it ALL the time. This sort of inconsistency is very disappointing, disheartening and CAN be costly. I was and still am disappointed about that coin mostly because it wasn't that way when I bought it or submitted it. NOW, every coin is photographed before leaving here!

    A very light, superficial "pencil mark" gets a BB but a deep dig is Gem? Come on, man!image
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,564 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Had a No Motto $10 Indian in a PCGS MS62 holder, once, with a pretty nasty hairline across the face. Obvious staple mark.

    When scanned, the light made it look even worse.

    Either way, it was a "just-barely-escaped-a-bodybag" coin. Which was too bad, really, considering it was otherwise nicer than average, in terms of strike and luster. I'd paid strong money for it, too, back during my Registry madness period.

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  • yes, i have a barber quarter with two light scratches just in front of the chin in an ms63 holder, staple marks?

    if someone could please link me up

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,564 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The line looks raised to me...ie. scratch on the die causing a raised line on the coin.

    Cameron Kiefer >>



    Funny... it almost looks raised to me, too.

    I think gold gets some leeway for bein' so soft. The 1904-S $20 Lib I had in that old Registry set looked like Liberty had run through the briar patch, and it was in a PCGS MS63 holder.

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  • We can't link straight from your computer.

    Cameron Kiefer
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,564 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>if someone could please link me up

    C:Documents and SettingsJose FernandezMy DocumentsMy Pictures8-25-2002 917p >>



    Nobody can link to a file that's stored on your computer. It's gotta be uploaded first.

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  • The supposed "scratch" is raised....hence it is not a scratch in the coin but the die. This will not affect the slabbing and is NOT considered damage.

    Cameron Kiefer
  • working on it, sorry.

  • Teletrade's description seems to support the coin is scratched theory but that may just be because they've seen it in person.

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  • i think it has a lot to do with the age ,the metal.
    the softer the metal like gold or silver.the easier to put a mark on a coin. so thay go a little lite on them.not as hard on them in grading. littlejohn
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,564 ✭✭✭✭✭
    nalamolly- your link procedure is good, but you still have to upload that image first. You can't link us directly to your computer, either.

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  • BlackhawkBlackhawk Posts: 3,898 ✭✭✭
    It depends who sends the coins in.
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  • << <i>Yes. PCGS AU58

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    Relayer,

    As long as the coin isn't in Mintstate or Proof condition, it may have scratchs on it when slabbed. As you probably already know, a coin is only mintstate if it exhibits no wear, it can have dense hairlines, perhaps even light scratchs. However, it also depends. If the severity of the scratch is bad enough, (which is opinion in some cases to the graders) they will not slab it. Or in ANACS case, they will. (Which happened to my sovereign)


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    << <i>The line looks raised to me...ie. scratch on the die causing a raised line on the coin.

    Cameron Kiefer >>



    Funny... it almost looks raised to me, too.

    I think gold gets some leeway for bein' so soft. The 1904-S $20 Lib I had in that old Registry set looked like Liberty had run through the briar patch, and it was in a PCGS MS63 holder. >>




    Hmm. Which "scratch" are we talking about. The one on the obverse [of the face] of the princess? (Looks more like a hairline), or the raised line on the reverse?
  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Look at the Good06 1916/16 Buff in tomorrow's Teletrade auction. I had one with a much less serious problem that they bagged several years ago.
  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    it would be immensely stupid not to slab a scratched coin. scratches are inevitable w/ circulated coins.

    K S

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